[ValarMorghulis]

I'm all for "by-default" no parking.

Also, I'm for the govt regulating "no car if no parking space" and no, public roads or land doesn't count.

You don't have dedicated parking space, you can't buy a car. Simple as that.

[Mustang Sammy]

The point is not to allow cars and other vehicles unfettered access to street parking. It is to
1. use logic and common sense when deciding where to allow parking
3. Enforcing no parking restrictions strictly in areas prone to traffic jams.

See below for an example of where parking Should be allowed. With the tree in place, what other use is there for this space?



Below shows 2 examples of
1. A crowded mall in Kurla where autos, taxis and cars are double and triple parked at will, with ZERO enforcement



2. Buses parked on LBS road in Bhandup in a No Parking area. This is an extremely busy and dug up road

[ex-innova-guy]

Originally Posted by Mustang Sammy

See below for an example of where parking Should be allowed. With the tree in place, what other use is there for this space?

Attachment 2523385

Looks like someone other than the authorities have deliberately put the No Parking sign on the Tree. Just at some distance you see another board reading "MCGM COOL CAB Stand."

[Divya Sharan]

Originally Posted by am1m

This is going to ruffle a lot of feathers, especially on a forum like this, but using the roads for parking (either in Mumbai or Bangalore) is what causes a lot of the traffic issues and makes life hard for pedestrians. (I have a car too!)

On this part alone, there are posts on this very forum where owners proudly say - I rent my house, but tenant(s) have to park on the road.
While this may work out in the legal sense, but is extremely asinine a behavior towards the tenant.

[subie_socal]

Originally Posted by deathwalkr

Your post reminded me of this hotel. It's on a very busy stretch of road next to a police station and the central railway station and near the main bus stand.
(Image off google streetview)

Didn't they also close the municipal parking which is at the roundabout, adjacent to the road towards New Theatre? I myself park near the India Post or the paid parking just before the post office. That whole road (from Palayam to the Station), is a menace now.

[am1m]

Originally Posted by Divya Sharan

On this part alone, there are posts on this very forum where owners proudly say - I rent my house, but tenant(s) have to park on the road.

Tell me about it. At least once a week I need to search for the owner of some car that has parked either in front of my gate so that I can't get even my bike inside, or I'll be woken up by someone honking right outside my house, and need to explain that the car parked by some idiot in front of my place is not mine (and since my opposite house neighbor also parks on the road, it blocks the narrow road for any vehicles passing through!)

I sympathize with tenants in Bangalore, they get a bad deal all around and get ripped off by most landlords. And I understand that the public transport in Bangalore and our wonderful auto drivers make a car a logical choice for people. But parking on the roads is not a sustainable solution.

[GreyNomad]

The road outside my earlier rented place in Mumbai shared its boundary with the Aarey Jungle - a protected forest reserve. Towards the end of the road there was a sort of embankment. During covid the local strongmen broke down the boundary of that embankment and took over a sizeable portion of the jungle land as illegal paid parking for the vanity vans, private buses, 407s etc. Those of us who rented out apartments along that road and had to park on the road, weren’t allowed inside. The cops would sometimes come and challan our vehicles but NEVER the illegal parking encroachment.

Those forum members who make such ‘road parking shouldn’t be allowed/don’t buy a car if you don’t have parking or other such holier than thou’ statements either are too privileged to have faced the lack of parking problem themselves or are just too removed from reality.

The person who responded to my earlier post by saying shopping centres and hospitals have their own parking - sir please get your good self down to Mumbai for a weekend and I’ll take you to atleast 3 popular shopping centres and hospitals (each) in places like Town and Bandra where the only option will be to park on the road.

[IamNikhil]

Logic and parking regulations in our cities simply do not go hand-in-hand! It solely depends on the targets set by the traffic brass. I have personally witnessed traffic cops randomly clicking photos of vehicles parked on a certain stretch, even without any sign of No Parking anywhere around. I have myself been challaned once when I was sitting inside my car, while my father had gone across the road to fetch something. I had parked between two trees on the dead lane adjacent to the footpath, and there wasn't a single No Parking sign anywhere at all, neither was I causing any traffic obstruction. I didn't even realise when the police must have come around and slyly clicked a photo of my car; got to know when I received the SMS an hour later; was aghast to say the least! Also, cleverly, the photo only depicted my car rear-side number plate, no other area visible in the photo which showed any offence-worthy parking etc. On raising a dispute, it was automatically closed within a month saying the "authorities" didn't find sufficient evidence to honour my action of raising the dispute in the first place.

I can confidently say that 90% of the times (in Mumbai), the traffic marshals/cops are only and only intent on extorting money from the public; without any semblance of sense or logic to their actions. If you argue with them on the spot, it just makes it worse. Such plain goondaism must stop.

[Mustang Sammy]

Check out this case where the guy’s EV was towed away from its charging location for being in a “no parking” zone. Bizarre to say the least.

https://x.com/prabhatsirji/status/1732028230662807678?

[Satkaj]

[quote=Mustang Sammy;5652528]The point is not to allow cars and other vehicles unfettered access to street parking. It is to
1. use logic and common sense when deciding where to allow parking
3. Enforcing no parking restrictions strictly in areas prone to traffic jams.

See below for an example of where parking Should be allowed. With the tree in place, what other use is there for this space?

Attachment 2523385

Entire Juhu Tara Road is No Parking Zone which could have easily been a regular single lane parked zone for atleast 70% of its length on both the sides.
Someone is missing a point here. All the shop establishments has some sort of settlement with the cops and it all works with understanding.

I have driven in many cities internationally. Many cities allow free parking after rush hours. “ PARKING IS OUR RIGHT” and its Govt duty to allow us the same.

Biggest parking scam is in BKC area, even at 9pm on deserted road on both sides cars are being clamped.

[ValarMorghulis]

Folks who say that since others (or goons) break rules and park anywhere, we should be allowed to park anywhere too, are simply missing the rule of law. It doesn't work like that. Flout rules, if others are as well, but then be ready to pay penalty.

Also, parking isn't a right. It is a privilege and no it is not government's duty to provide parking to you.

In Karnataka: Link

The burden of providing parking space for personal vehicles should be on the vehicle owner and not the civic agency.

In Pune: Link

While one can expect public dissatisfaction at strict imposition of parking rules in the beginning, once it is made clear through public education campaigns that parking is not a right and is strictly enforced by the police

In Mumbai: Link
I couldn't find the parking policy but I did find an article which says "Alternative parking is not a birthright, road does not belong to car owners - BMC Commissioner ".

I kinda agree with all. I'm sure it'll be the same across various other cities, but parking isn't a right at all. It is neither in India nor anywhere across the world, especially in developed countries.

Now those who jump on the bandwagon saying but Western countries have much better public transport system and so on; sure, but they do have much stiffer parking charges too that dissuade parking in public spaces.

That said, irrespective of what happens in Western countries, the rule is clear in India.
(I know this post will be hated by folks, but fact is fact).

PS: don't like the law, ask your lawmakers to implement change.

[am1m]

Now we're pretty much the only house on our street that parks all their vehicles inside the compound. Every single other house has either bought more vehicles than they can fit into their house, or have (illegally) raised the number of floors on their building and rented them out, without of course accounting for parking for the tenants.

So naturally everyone parks in front of our house and our gate. Very often blocking the way for our car to get out/in of the main gate, and sometimes parking in a way that we have to twist and turn to even walk in and out of the side gate.

So are we "privileged" because we have enough parking and don't "understand the plight of others who 'have' to park on the road"? Or are we stupid because we planned for enough parking and didn't buy more vehicles that we can park outside?

[Satkaj]

@VM
It is perception how one believes what’s Govt. duty or our right is. Most of the arguments and discussions start here without ending.

Understanding need of citizens and making a policy convenient and friendly is expected out of selected Govt. Not the policies made to be broken to give advantage to the Govt authorities , blatantly punishing tax paying citizens.

I would like to stick to a discussion here , illogical rules which hurt us on our day to day livings. I was in Jaslok hospital for my treatment, there was an understanding with the Jaslok Valet as the entire area around is No Parking zone that police will not touch the car PARKED BY VALET , who were charging exorbitant parking charges.

No parking in BKC area even on Sunday’s or after 8pm around restaurants and public places is day light robbery. One just need to apply logic to allow people to park if they are not obstructing traffic flow and enjoy city life.

My expectation is simple. Dedicated parking area should be created, charge for the same if need be but not to create illogical no parking zones.

[ValarMorghulis]

Originally Posted by Satkaj

@VM
It is perception how one believes what’s Govt. duty or our right is. Most of the arguments and discussions start here without ending.

Understanding need of citizens and making a policy convenient and friendly is expected out of selected Govt. Not the policies made to be broken to give advantage to the Govt authorities , blatantly punishing tax paying citizens.

I would like to stick to a discussion here , illogical rules which hurt us on our day to day livings. I was in Jaslok hospital for my treatment, there was an understanding with the Jaslok Valet as the entire area around is No Parking zone that police will not touch the car PARKED BY VALET , who were charging exorbitant parking charges.

No parking in BKC area even on Sunday’s or after 8pm around restaurants and public places is day light robbery. One just need to apply logic to allow people to park if they are not obstructing traffic flow and enjoy city life.

My expectation is simple. Dedicated parking area should be created, charge for the same if need be but not to create illogical no parking zones.

I understand your pain. I truly do. I've been at the receiving end of this many times when I wanted to park to go to a restaurant/ clinic/ shop but wasn't able to since there was no parking nearby.

That said, the law isn't a perception. There are many I disagree with as well (prime being me having to pay lakhs in taxes while rich farmers driving around their Fortuners, BMWs pay ZERO tax), but a law is a law. We HAVE to follow them (unless you decide to go the other way).

Also, we can lament all we want regarding the parking mafia, they being cahoots with police and so on, but that doesn't give us the right to park anywhere. If we do, let's be ready to pay the fine as well. Like I said, parking is not a right, especially in India where 25 out of 1000 people own cars.

Also, let us get this correct: Unless specified otherwise, every public road is a no parking zone.

PS: I have zero sympathy for folks who park on the public roads because their apartments/ houses have no parking.

[Satkaj]

Unable to tag Tweet(X) about , Mumbai police Dragged Nexon EV ALONGWITH CHARGING PIN. It was getting charged near Mantralaya at a charging station , stating it was in NO PARKING ZONE!