[am1m]

Originally Posted by DuHasstMich

The above scams do not even hold a candle to this:

https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/...410-2017-07-04

Am no an expert on tiger behavior, but the 2 'news' reports seem too sensational to be true and based on nothing but thin air. The forest is certainly a scary place at night, no doubt, but just wandering in and getting attacked by a tiger (who just happens to be in the area) seems a bit too much to believe. Man-animal conflicts are certainly an issue near reserves, but to claim that a trend like this is a deliberate thing with no real proof is a bit far-fetched on the part of the 2 media channels.

[msdivy]

Originally Posted by extreme_torque

Its essentially gaming the system. Why is the onus on the poor in this case? Not the police, the gang and everyone else involved including doctors who have absolutely no economic reason to participate in this except sheer greed.

The beavered families would be the last ones to concoct such an elaborate scheme. It is clearly the handiwork of an organized gang.

BTW, why hullaballoo over dead? Nobody knows what happens . Isn't it purely their family or personal concern?

[sushantr5]

It is really difficult life for poor in India. And that too getting cancer in the poor family will eat into the families resources exponentially.

We should look at this trend and push a button on the alarm bell. This is what happens when you have struggling population which are not getting their right to dignified life.

This is definitely low one can imagine in the humanity. But people are going to this path because of social circumstances around them.

If you are rich and you do this kind of crime then this can be categorized as a Greed. And if you are poor and unwillingly has to go on this path, then this is social failure. The agents in this process are greedy but the poor in this process has no other way than getting into this trap. Because he sees no other way. He sees no other way is a social failure.

And if we do not fix this problem then today it could be lot worse tomorrow.

[saket77]

Originally Posted by sushantr5

But people are going to this path because of social circumstances around them.
If you are rich and you do this kind of crime then this can be categorized as a Greed. And if you are poor and unwillingly has to go on this path, then this is social failure. He sees no other way is a social failure.

And if we do not fix this problem then today it could be lot worse tomorrow.

Although I understand your point that it is never easy for the poor, but I do not agree with the overall crux of your post. Especially the part I have quoted above.

It is not right to justify such acts in the name of poverty. Tomorrow, people will literally rob banks, which I think is still less gross compared to what the thread is discussing, and we will still have people justifying the same in name of poor.

Originally Posted by sushantr5

And if we do not fix this problem then today it could be lot worse tomorrow.

Yes, law & order must take the involved people to task strictly so that stunts like these are not pulled upon people who have nothing to do with the poverty & greed of these half-wits. If being poor is not a crime, then being reasonably well-off financially like me & you (to afford and drive a car) is not a crime either. Imagine you or your family going through such a situation.

Originally Posted by sushantr5

He sees no other way is a social failure.

Yes, it is a social failure to an extent when we bring lack of education, jobs, poverty into the picture but still this cannot justify actions like these.

Dignified life, what you spoke about, in all sphere (social & financial) needs to be earned in real word, rather than expecting it to come to you as a right. It's not a perfect world, we all agree.

Life is not fair; but it is not fair to anyone and in that sense, it makes life somewhat fair.

Regards,
Saket

[sushantr5]

Originally Posted by saket77

Although I understand your point that it is never easy for the poor, but I do not agree with the overall crux of your post. Especially the part I have quoted above.

It is not right to justify such acts in the name of poverty. Tomorrow, people will literally rob banks, which I think is still less gross compared to what the thread is discussing, and we will still have people justifying the same in name of poor.




Yes, law & order must take the involved people to task strictly so that stunts like these are not pulled upon people who have nothing to do with the poverty & greed of these half-wits. If being poor is not a crime, then being reasonably well-off financially like me & you (to afford and drive a car) is not a crime either. Imagine you or your family going through such a situation.




Yes, it is a social failure to an extent when we bring lack of education, jobs, poverty into the picture but still this cannot justify actions like these.

Dignified life, what you spoke about, in all sphere (social & financial) needs to be earned in real word, rather than expecting it to come to you as a right. It's not a perfect world, we all agree.

Life is not fair; but it is not fair to anyone and in that sense, it makes life somewhat fair.

Regards,
Saket

Just to be clear. I never intended to say that poor shall be fine if he does this kind heinous crime because of his poverty. The person committed this crime should be punished with harshest possible punishment which will act as deterrent .

My intention was to highlight one possible root cause that is leading people to go on this path. If poor is unable to see better option then there is a possibility he will go to least desired heinous/criminal option for the survival. Survival is the game where deterrent punishment will not help or either ethics/humanity will not work.

So we need to fix root cause which will avoid these circumstances. There will be no question of survival if ones basic needs are taken care by social environment around him.

[msdivy]

Originally Posted by Akib Khan

If that's the case then the poor should be allowed to rob the banks and commit any crime to support their family.

Originally Posted by saket77

Tomorrow, people will literally rob banks, which I think is still less gross compared to what the thread is discussing, and we will still have people justifying the same in name of poor.

Robbing a bank is not the right analogy. The bank is public property. A dead person is not public property. It is the responsibility of the respective family and to be cremated as the family tradition or as per the dead person wishes (like body donation). They have failed in this case.

[dhanushs]

Damn. So sad to hear. I'm not surprised as I've known much bigger and uglier scams for the sake of money.

I believe it's the average income difference between the rich and poor, making cause for things like these to happen.