[kiranpashtakar]

I was Just contemplating the other the day,, I am salaried guy, my tax is deducted even before I get paid, and that too @ 30% almost. Well fine but what do I get in return, Poor Infrastructure, Bad governance etc etc the list goes on.

Added to that we have our cops who serve the politicians more than they serve public.
All in the name of security.. What are politicians scared off is it their own countrymen... which goes for a toss when they go requesting for votes.

Okay here is the seen, I am waiting endlessly for a public servant and rudely being spoken by another public servant both of whose salaries are being paid by my taxes

Guys your views and experiences... I will also post a survey soon

[abhibh]

Hi,

You know what. Our indian president visited last month and i was stuck for 1 hour in traffic JAM. The whole 12KM straight road was blocked and no one was able to go anywhere.

I mean fine block traffic so that no one comes in the way but atleast not for 1 whole hour. Even after 1 hour it took me 30 mins to travel a distance of 4 km. Usually it takes 10 mins.

All the roads get repired only when a VIP has to arrive or in VIP or porsche areas. If you visit southern or western areas in my town you will see the mess.

They keep on carpeting the road in front of my house which is all leveled up but they dont repair the road 2 blocks away which has too many pot holes.

In mornings the street lights are and there is power cut stating some fault whereas the main fault is in their heads. We call up get to listen people like us dont pay the bills where when u take up a news paper you will see VIP's have dues of more than 1 lac and who are suffering its we.

Enough is Enough. I am thinking some military rule or something gets impossed grrrrrrrr...

[Steeroid]

Gandhigiri Zindabad! Strew the VIP's path with flowers. Keep your vehicles off the road for a day so that you wont pollute his path with your dirty exhaust.

After he passes, dont crowd onto the roads - stay away from them. Create a ghost town for a day.

[mohit]

Enough is Enough. I am thinking some military rule or something gets impossed grrrrrrrr...

Yeah right! Now we are yelled at for blocking the path of the convoys and then they'll simply shoot!

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by Steeroid

Gandhigiri Zindabad! Strew the VIP's path with flowers. Keep your vehicles off the road for a day so that you wont pollute his path with your dirty exhaust.

After he passes, dont crowd onto the roads - stay away from them. Create a ghost town for a day.

What's the point ??

What is the point you will be making ??

You think the VIPs, politicians care ??

[Sahil]

Security is important for VIP's but there need to be rules and regulations applied to carry this out in an orderly manner without causing much inconvience to others.
Let me give you guys an experience I had:
A few months back i found myself behind a VIP car protected by two police gypsys, one in the front and other one behind the VIP car. The cop kept indicating to me from the back of his gypsy not to overtake. It was almost midnight, the roads were empty. I stayed behind the car from mahim to worli and everytime i tried to overtake the cop blocked me.
I lost my cool after a while, came on to the road near Mayfair worli, went to the extreme left and floored it, the cop kept shouting i maintained a deaf ear.
Another example there police protection is taken as a measure boasting power- I was driving back from Marine drive towards bandra in peak traffic, was along side a gold phantom(the one posted in another thread) with Mr.(dont wanna disclose names) sitting in the back seat. Followed by a cop jeep. At every signal two of the cops got out of the jeep and stood by the back door of the phantom with guns ready. The cops get off at every signal, i dont even want to count the amount of signal there are between Marine drive and the phantom owners home in bandra!

[redeye]

i feel they should not stop the public .. because for 1 person might be any v.i.p but lots of people are stuck in jams and the public's precious time is wasted..

why can't they try an alternative like a helicopter or something

[speedzak]

Originally Posted by Steeroid

Gandhigiri Zindabad! Strew the VIP's path with flowers. Keep your vehicles off the road for a day so that you wont pollute his path with your dirty exhaust.

After he passes, dont crowd onto the roads - stay away from them. Create a ghost town for a day.

Well said! Cant make it more beautiful. X10 times.

But why this only happens in India? I've been to some countries and haven't seen the President blocking the public like this. I've even seen some Head politicians driving themselves with no security on view. But nothing here of this sort.
Our leaders get more proud by having more security it seems.

[Steeroid]

Originally Posted by nikhilb2008

What's the point ??

What is the point you will be making ??

You think the VIPs, politicians care ??

The roads are barricaded and blocked because they assume people need to be restrained from butting into their path. They also assume that the janta are overwhelmed with joy and therefore have to be restrained with barricades on the pavement.

A couple of instances of roads covered with flowers (maybe some get well soon cars too?) and EMPTY streets greeting them will send the message across.

What is a politician without the "doting masses" that have to be kept away from him?

[Su-47]

Originally Posted by Sahil

Let me give you guys an experience I had:
A few months back i found myself behind a VIP car protected by two police gypsys, one in the front and other one behind the VIP car. The cop kept indicating to me from the back of his gypsy not to overtake. It was almost midnight, the roads were empty. I stayed behind the car from mahim to worli and everytime i tried to overtake the cop blocked me.
I lost my cool after a while, came on to the road near Mayfair worli, went to the extreme left and floored it, the cop kept shouting i maintained a deaf ear.

I think you were lucky. I did something similar in bangalore and my car's number was relayed on wireless (I didn't know they actually work). My car was intercepted (filmi-ishtyle) on the next signal and I was issued a ticket which said something like : "Found violating traffic impositions during VIP movement".

[esteem_lover]

from the results of the poll so far, out of the 10 folks who voted only 6 have agreed that it is wrong for VIPs to create traffic jams when they travel. quite amusing really. there are umpteen number of ways of looking at it. It is frustrating really for the many of us commoners.

but you know what ? here's something to think about.

we did not vote them to power. we did not exercise our right when the time came. so whats the point in cursing them now. The people who elected them do not seem to mind, they even feel it is nice to wait to see their hero pass by in full bandoboast. if only we, the educated masses would make it a point to exercise our franchise, like we never fail to service our cars or do our laundry or speak our minds, this situation wouldn't be there. we make up the majority of the population, at least in the urban areas. so there is really no point in getting frustrated about it. please ponder over this, guys. cheers

[Dragonov]

I have a similar experience of the high handedness of our so called ‘police’. As I was driving along on the NH 8 from Delhi towards Jalandhar, I came across a police pilot gypsy escorting the so called “Strategic Delhi Lahore Volvo bus” and behind the bus was a Tata 207 pick cab with no police marking on it and some stupid cops sitting inside.
As the car in front of me honked at the 207 to let him pass, he simply did not budge and then the car (A Honda City) tried to overtake from the left, but again the cop blocked his path. So after some attempts the City guy backed off and started following the morons at speed of 90 kmph on open highway.

It really got frustrating after about 15 minutes as now there were about 4 cars in front of me plus the cavalcade of the bus and the pilot gypsy and the cops in the 207. So the only option left for me to was to overtake all the seven vehicles at one go if space permitted.

So finally I got an open stretch and I just floored my Dicor. I managed to pass all the cars and also the 207 which was taken in by a surprise and then the bus, although finally the pilot gypsy cops did try to sway to the left to block me and started waving to back off but I had, had enough and just went passed them and kept the Dicor at about 120kmph for the next 5 minute’s or so just to lose them!

And then I came across a Traffic signal where the traffic turning to the right had to stop and the oncoming traffic had to go straight. As I was waiting for the signal to turn green so that I could go right, I see the same pilot gypsy escorting the Volvo overtaking all the cars from the left and jumping the signal and per force stopping all the oncoming cars to turn right and move on..

At the end of the day I thought that on one-hand they are escorting a bus and not letting anyone pass for security reasons and on the other-hand the morons are jumping traffic signals and that too on a highway. Total callousness and disregard to other peoples safety on the road. Pathetic is the state of our governance!

And maybe I could pull this off as I was in a Safari and then you know ‘might is right’ in this country of ours... but it’s the sheer ignorance of people who have it and use it in the wrong way

[kiranpashtakar]

It does not seem to work, I regularly excersise my rights to vote or try to since sometimes i see that a proxy vote has already been cast and I loose my right.
The real elections do not happen the way we see it, well but that's a seperate topic all together.

Bringing back the context
how do we curb this menace
how do we get the public servants to realise their duties.

Probably a PIL would help. But then again the entire legal system is manipulated to the convenience of our political freinds.

Anyways there would be very soon a situation like "if you can't beat them join them"

[headers]

At the end of the day, the VIPs are predominantly government servants and our politicians..they must travel with the traffic and experience the real world rather than have a trail of cars to lead them like a blind ...

Only if they follow the traffic rules...

[esteem_lover]

Originally Posted by kiranpashtakar

It does not seem to work,

The real elections do not happen the way we see it, well but that's a seperate topic all together.

Bringing back the context
how do we curb this menace
how do we get the public servants to realise their duties.

Probably a PIL would help. But then again the entire legal system is manipulated to the convenience of our political freinds.

Anyways there would be very soon a situation like "if you can't beat them join them"

kiran, i commend you for that. at the same time, it would be better that if you can persuade everyone you know to do the same & for them to persuade everyone they know to do the same & so on until we have at least 90% voter turnout. i understand sometimes we dont get the chance, but if those characters know that we will come for our votes, then that cannot happen.

the reason i am harping on this is because i have just come from a gruesome experience in the local body polls here in chennai. could not beleive my eyes. democracy was crucified & goondas rule. this is worst than the nazi regime, i would say.