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Originally Posted by RogueRider I moved to Bangalore around 15 years ago with my family, I have had the same observation as you have stated, especially in the last 3-4 years. Like someone else pointed out it has to be the clash of cultures, We are scarily fond of regionalism, we are kannadiga's and tamilians first. We identify as Indians only when we leave the country. Even then we try to bond with people who speak the same language, hail from the same state ie, we look for things in common. |
Slightly Off Topic to this thread but important all the same.
I moved here to BLR around 13 years back too.
I ve not had issues in general because I do like people and do get along quite well with anyone, be he an Auto Rickshaw Driver or the MD of a Company or a Security Guard at a Mall. Be fair, be respectful, be nice - use Please and Thank you for services to be rendered or already rendered and you can pretty much be sure that the respect will be reciprocated.
Saying this, as Indians, we are quite a parochial lot.
You're right when you say that in General we are Kannadigas, or Keralites or Tamilians or Haryanvis first and then only are we Indians.
Even abroad, you will mostly find little social clubs - Tamil Manram, Gujarati Sabha, Bengali Adda etc among the Indians. Whereas on account of a shared identity and common ethnicity, you will find others of different nationalities gathering together under their National identity - English Club, Irish Club, American Club etc.
Coming back to this particular thread and the rants therein.
I agree that the Change we desire must happen within us first.
Sadly, in most of our cases, we are just too pressured with all the other stuff of life, to even bother to "waste time" fighting the Corrupt Systems, Processes of Indian bureaucracy and having disagreements with Babus. In general, one never wins these fights without the expenditure of a huge amount of time, energy and effort. And this time, energy and effort, in an already time starved situation, can be more effectively and pleasurably deployed elsewhere.
Thats why I keep saying "Pick your battles".
To me having a battle with the Bureaucracy and Babudom, in a hopelessly corrupt, skewed system is simply not worth it.
Call me an elitist. Call me whatever you want.
I want my peace of mind, in my working space and my personal space. If this means I am living in a parallel "elite" universe, then so be it. I pay my taxes honestly but yet, I get Zilch in return. My parents lived their working lives and paid their Taxes religiously, but have Zilch in return. So we choose all of us, to live in a parallel universe which is accessible to us because of our backgrounds, friends, social levels and to some extent, financial ability. Nothing else. I see no reason to suffer pain, if I am near the top of the heap in terms of the position in the "food chain". Life is too short to be spent on useless pursuits like fighting the corrupt system and evil Babus.
I do not have any of these kinds of issues when Im outside of India - simply because the system works like it is supposed to and you get what you pay for - at least in the "Developed/ Civilised" world. India, sadly is neither developed fully or for the most part, even civilised.
Compare the Social Security Office in most US towns with the Ration Shops in India (if ever you go to one). Compare the Driving License Authority Offices with the RTO's here. Perhaps these are not fair because we are poor and they are better off, but at least, one can get the service one pays for, on time and in full.
Here, by contrast, one has to run from pillar to post, beg, pay bribes and generally kowtow in order to get anything done.
The Income Tax Dept here is amongst the most corrupt possible. Before the online processing of returns and refunds began in full earnest, one would never get ones returns on time and refunds were to be forgotten until you greased some scumbag's palm.
Frankly if ever I had to go to the Income Tax Department, there is absolutely no way, in India that I would attempt to go there in "Shorts"!
Compare also then, the process of School Admissions and Admission Forms, Exam results and the like - even at these slightly fancier schools. One will see a Looooong line of poor harassed parents just waiting their turn to get that precious form and then stand in another loooooong line to submit it. I mean, this is absolutely ridiculous, considering this is a Private Service and one is paying BIG BUCKS these days for education of ones off spring! (I don't have kids, but I can empathise with my friends who do!)
Like it or not, these facts stated above, are eminently palpable to most of us every day, as we traverse the roads and work through what pass for public places...
The Rot has now gone SO SO IRRETRIEVABLY DEEP that I really wonder whether we can ever remove this gangrene and be a clean place again, like we were immediately post Independence and right up to the 1980's...
We can be idealistic and want to change things - but wearing shorts and T Shirt is not going to accomplish that change. Nor is a confrontationist attitude.
The change has to come only from deep within and at the grass roots level, through education and example. Nothing else will work. And it is my guesstimate that change, if it does happen, will take another 3-4 generations to even be visible....
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