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Old 6th July 2014, 21:28   #1
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Alto rear-ended by an Amaze: See the results

Today I was driving from Patkar College (Goregaon) to Jogeshwari and after getting off the East-West flyover which connects the S.V road and WEH at Oberoi mall, a Honda City halted in front of me and I stopped keeping around 4-5 feet distance behind. As soon as I saw in the IRVM an Amaze guy at high speed was approaching and he applied emergency brakes. His car skidded for some distance and he tried to steer to avoid rear ending me but ended up banging on the left side of the rear bumper . And he got hit by an auto rickshaw which damaged his tail lights.

Fun part
They guy couldn't get out of his car because his door wasn't opening completely. Probably because of the damage. I pulled his door open which apparently took a lot of strength. After he got out, the first thing he went to check was the rear end when clearly the maximum damage was done at the front

My car at the rear
Alto rear-ended by an Amaze: See the results-img_20140706_134510.jpg

His car at the rear
Alto rear-ended by an Amaze: See the results-img_20140706_134545760.jpg

His car at the front
Alto rear-ended by an Amaze: See the results-img_20140706_134624176.jpg

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Old 6th July 2014, 21:45   #2
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re: Alto rear-ended by an Amaze: See the results

wow the amaze looks to be in bad shape!
How did you guys resolve this? Did he pay you anything or are you going to claim insurance?
The Damage to your car doesn't look that bad
Thanks to the Older maruti build Quality.
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re: Alto rear-ended by an Amaze: See the results

By this picture, I can imagine the strength of sheet metal of Amaze.
BTW, thank God you are safe.

Amaze took the maximum damage.
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wow the amaze looks to be in bad shape!
How did you guys resolve this? Did he pay you anything or are you going to claim insurance?
The Damage to your car doesn't look that bad
Thanks to the Older maruti build Quality.
That's what I need advice on. Should I claim it? I guess they do pay 50% for the plastic parts. I have no idea about this insurance thing. He did accept his mistake and we did resolve it. My uncle asked him to pay 5K because getting a new bumper and painting it would cost somewhere near it, or maybe more. Will get the actual costing after visiting the A.S.S tomorrow.

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By this picture, I can imagine the strength of sheet metal of Amaze.
BTW, thank God you are safe.

Amaze took the maximum damage.
My foot was off the brakes and everyone was tied up. So no injuries. And yeah I was amazed by the damage happened to the Amaze :o Didn't expect it.

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And yeah I was amazed by the damage happened to the Amaze :o Didn't expect it.
Finally we know why it is called Amaze... it aims to amaze you.

But on a seriously note, it could be by design. The pedestrian safety norms may have forced the car maker to design softer bumper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestr...ting_the_limbs
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That's what I need advice on. Should I claim it? I guess they do pay 50% for the plastic parts.
The damage to your car is very much repairable with this bumper itself as I see in the pics. As you are going to the ASC then do not accept their logic or price estimate at all in the first place and don't waste money on claiming insurance. Maruti ASCs are equipped with heating guns required to straighten up the bumpers which won't take more than a hour and probably 1 screw just to align it to perfection. At the max get a coat of rubbing compound done after the job is done. Total expense as per ASC should not be more than INR 800 or 1000. However, it will cost you much less if you get it repaired at a F.N.G as it may not cost you more than INR 400-500.

Think about it and then take the decision.

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Was that an Amaze with ABS/Airbags? I guess not as he could not steer the car and the airbags did not deploy.
BTW, with regards to the damaged front of the Amaze, it is designed to deform and protect the occupants and the pedestrians (if they happened to be hit).
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The damage to your car is very much repairable with this bumper itself as I see in the pics.......

Think about it and then take the decision.

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I will surely inquire about it. Thanks a lot for your input though because I was seriously very confused. I just need it to be back in perfect shape. You know how it is when its the first car in your family.


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Was that an Amaze with ABS/Airbags? I guess not as he could not steer the car and the airbags did not deploy.
BTW, with regards to the damaged front of the Amaze, it is designed to deform and protect the occupants and the pedestrians (if they happened to be hit).
Nope, no ABS or airbags. But the damage done will surely be costing that person a lot of money. Even he was a bit stunned after checking the damage.

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A suggestion. You may want to erase the other person's vehicle number from your photos. You can choose to keep yours.

And that is some serious damage to the Amaze! Alto K10 owners would have heaved a sigh of relief seeing your and his car's pics, especially after that 'zero stars for safety in Alto' news.
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There is "Baby On Board" sticker on the Amaze. Thank God that the baby was not inside the car when the incident happened. (Frontal Impact + Immediate Rear Impact could have turned out to be real bad if the baby was on board and not properly restrained)
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They guy couldn't get out of his car because his door wasn't opening completely. Probably because of the damage. I pulled his door open which apparently took a lot of strength.
This is odd. I thought all cars these days are designed to absorb impact in such a way that the doors can be opened immediately after the crash, so that the occupants can get out to safety.

The crash itself was surely within the speeds at which crash tests are done, as I understand from your description.

Since Brio/Amaze platform is for emerging markets (read as, markets with no strict crash norms), looks like Honda did little crash testing!
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The impact seems to be at the bumper level (looking at the Alto), but Amaze's bonnet seems to have crumpled a lot. Wonder how that happened! Perhaps the crumpling bumper of the Amaze damaged the bonnet?

Chinmay: The Amaze was stopped in place most probably by the rear left wheel. Take your car to a Maruti dealer and check the left rear suspension
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The amaze has a i-dtec badge at the back, meaning a diesel.

I was under the impression that ABS is standard on the diesel amaze.

Then why the skid?
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The impact seems to be at the bumper level (looking at the Alto), but Amaze's bonnet seems to have crumpled a lot. Wonder how that happened! Perhaps the crumpling bumper of the Amaze damaged the bonnet?

Chinmay: The Amaze was stopped in place most probably by the rear left wheel. Take your car to a Maruti dealer and check the left rear suspension
Exactly what I was wondering. It looks as if the Amaze hit a bus or something, and the hood took the complete hit! The bumper (Amaze's) just seems 'dislodged' with not much damage.

And chinmaybaikar, don't replace the bumper outright, get it checked at an FNG first - most probably he will be able to set it right and also do a decent touch up job. Silver color is pretty easy to match.

EDIT: Anyone noticed the baby on board sticker on Amaze?
Wonder what's the point of putting that up if you drive like that!

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They guy couldn't get out of his car because his door wasn't opening completely. Probably because of the damage. I pulled his door open which apparently took a lot of strength.
Was the A-pillar damaged by any chance? It shouldn't looking at the impact pics. Wondering how the door got jammed then.

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Since Brio/Amaze platform is for emerging markets (read as, markets with no strict crash norms), looks like Honda did little crash testing!
I mailed Honda 2 years ago on the details of crash test details done on the Brio, I didn't get a satisfying reply or the test results. They said it has been done, thats all. Said some one will call me, but that did not happen.

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The impact seems to be at the bumper level (looking at the Alto), but Amaze's bonnet seems to have crumpled a lot. Wonder how that happened! Perhaps the crumpling bumper of the Amaze damaged the bonnet?

Chinmay: The Amaze was stopped in place most probably by the rear left wheel. Take your car to a Maruti dealer and check the left rear suspension
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And the metal body behind the bumper surely would have been damaged a little, get that checked also. Looks like the Alto has taken the hit pretty well but i guess its mostly because of the Amaze.
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