[tsk1979]

I think uber did a check, and police said this guy was A-okay

[pratyush6]

Originally Posted by srameshdelhi

In a country where we are mute spectators to see so much violence against women, they atleast deserve a decent cab service, when we failed to ensure a safe public transport system. If banning Uber will teach similar companies a lesson or two, let us do it. Uber is big enough to afford to loose Delhi business and we are better off without Uber. Therefore, go ahead.

First things first, not everyone is a mute spectator.

Next, the blame must be correctly assigned. Yes, if Uber did not complete a proper verification - then they need to be held responsible for that. But what of the Delhi Police gave them an all clear signal - would you ban the police too? To put a mild comment - is the Police a white dove?

I don't care about Uber losing its business or anything, but atleast assign the blame correctly. And don't get me started about how good our Police force and the nexus of business men and the Police is.

Delhi is a hell hole, I have lived there and I can relate to the mentality of auto drivers and cabs. All they talk is crap - everytime. One in a while you will find a decent guy, but those are like the blue moon. Whom are we kidding?

PS. Just saw the post above and the certificate, now what? Will you ask the entire Police Dept. be banned? Because if this is possible then we do not know how many rapists are roaming the streets of Delhi?

As someone said, would Uber hire a detective agency?

OT:
What a shame. Every single day you have the same thing repeated again and again - seems as if the 'culture' we keep harping upon (and a lot of poeple do so) is dead and buried.

[soumobakshi]

My 2 Cents over and above what has been said ^^

Had RTO & Police followed a proper process of issuing Commercial DL and ensured a BG Verification process in the first place and the same on a renewal basis every year or 6 monthly, without which Fuel will not be pumped in could have actually avoided the unfortunate issue here.

Just taking a high handed stance and banning a Private service on a knee jerk reaction is no good. Period!

[gsurya]

Originally Posted by mercedised

I never trust these services no matter what people tell me. Even after reading some good reviews on Team-Bhp I never even thought to hire these so called premium services, the reason was not safety. I prefer regular taxis, this way the money goes straight to the needed poor man and not these foreign brands who never care about the safety and are only there to earn their piece of currency.

Err, about 60% of the fare goes to Uber taxi driver; 40% to parent company Uber INDIA who provides the booking platform & infrastructure.

Uber is not likely to repatriate its earnings in India abroad for a very very long time if ever, so dont worry, use Uber - your money will only result in employment in India.

Or if you really want to be this strict, never use any MNC product or service.

[PPS]

Is Uber licensed under this radio taxi scheme? The damages would still be governed by the Motor Vehicles Act i guess.

http://www.delhi.gov.in/DoIT/DoIT_Transport/trrs31.pdf

Also the DCP in the picture posted a few posts above says, no criminal offence as per the records of PS Ambedkarnagar, not the country! There is no national database for those accused of crimes. There is a database i believe for the convicts, not those accused.

[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by srameshdelhi

Guys who support Uber please understand that we can live without the Uber. One co. goes and another will come, but wrongdoers should not go unpunished. We can go on talking about whose mistake it is and put % for all. But if there is a way to punish all 100%, go ahead do it. Or atleast punish those who are immediately punishable.

In a country where we are mute spectators to see so much violence against women, they atleast deserve a decent cab service, when we failed to ensure a safe public transport system. If banning Uber will teach similar companies a lesson or two, let us do it. Uber is big enough to afford to loose Delhi business and we are better off without Uber. Therefore, go ahead.

You make an elaborate point. But what do you think uber should have done. Should they have gotten police verification done?
But they did so, and the driver got a clean record (signed by the police). This is how any company will do verification. What other ways do you recommend.

[balajisv]

Knee jerk reaction from the government. How does banning Uber serve the purpose here? What will happen to 1000s of drivers who have tied up with Uber and have secured loans to pay for their vehicles?

It is a very unfortunate incident that happened. But, blaming Uber is not fair IMPO.

The Delhi police also gave a clean character certificate. Who is questioning them?

Two years back Nirbhaya incident occurred in a private bus. Did the government ban private buses plying on Delhi roads?

[PetrolRider]

When I book a radio cab, they claim it as GPS tracked and safe. When this particular cab is on hire and suddenly goes offline, what the so called technology driven company was doing?
At least they could call up the driver and ask him. Of course they know that the cab is on hire and without completing the journey went offline. This is a gross negligence on their part.

I agree, banning them from one city will not be right thing, anyway social media has already done that part. A hefty compensation to the victim should do the justice.

[sinharishi]

There are 2 bodies who also should be held responsible , Delhi Police and Delhi Govt.

Every day a rape is reported. Look around, no one fears the law. No one fears the Police. What has Delhi Police done to make the city safe? Instead they gave a accused a clearance certificate. Shame on them!

Delhi Govt. should have improved policing and security after December 2012. Banning Uber is not a solution, they also should have also acted against the Delhi Police.

[srameshdelhi]

As per Delhi Police official statement, three offences committed by Uber
1. Driver Does not have Commercial licence to drive a cab
2. GPS not installed in Car
3. Background verification documents were not submitted to Delhi Police by Uber

If you still argue that Uber did not violate any rule, only god can help our country.

Delhi Police, Delhi culture and host a lot of things also can be (Should be) blamed and should be taken to task. But that does not obsolve Uber for violation of local rules. So, the ban is justified. They can challenge it in court, if they feel that it is not justified (They will not, going by their statement accepting the guilt). If some other city is happy with Uber, enjoy it without any rules being followed till you feel the need for regulation. Different strokes for different folks!

[srameshdelhi]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

You make an elaborate point. But what do you think uber should have done. Should they have gotten police verification done?
But they did so, and the driver got a clean record (signed by the police). This is how any company will do verification. What other ways do you recommend.

1. They should not have engaged a driver who does not have a commercial licence.
2. GPS should have been installed and monitored by Uber - As per Delhi rules.
3. Police verification form is not submitted to Delhi Police - This is their official stand, contrary to what is reported here.
4. Emergency Telephone no. of company should be available in the car. - Missing here.
5. They say in the T&C that they are not responsible for safety - Therefore, they can't operate at a place which requires a lot of safety.

However, if some city is very safe and there is no such regulations as above are required that city can enjoy the services of Uber - No problem.

One more violation - Point to point cab service is allowed in Delhi only by Radio cab who follow the above regulations and registered with Delhi Govt. Uber is not registered as Radio cab and not followed any of the regulation of Delhi Govt for operating so. Therefore, they can't be allowed as point-to-point cab operator.

[Captain Slow]

Originally Posted by srameshdelhi

As per Delhi Police official statement, three offences committed by Uber
1. Driver Does not have Commercial licence to drive a cab
2. GPS not installed in Car
3. Background verification documents were not submitted to Delhi Police by Uber

If you still argue that Uber did not violate any rule, only god can help our country.

Delhi Police, Delhi culture and host a lot of things also can be (Should be) blamed and should be taken to task. But that does not obsolve Uber for violation of local rules. So, the ban is justified. They can challenge it in court, if they feel that it is not justified (They will not, going by their statement accepting the guilt). If some other city is happy with Uber, enjoy it without any rules being followed till you feel the need for regulation. Different strokes for different folks!

Why is every one blaming uber ? What happened should never have happened the driver in this case should be hanged for what he did!
Blaming uber for this incident is uncalled for.

Tomorrow lets say I am traveling in a Bus owned and run by the Gov, I get robbed or assaulted in the bus. Would the Gov ban the bus service?

[srameshdelhi]

Originally Posted by Captain Slow

Why is every one blaming uber ? What happened should never have happened the driver in this case should be hanged for what he did!
Blaming uber for this incident is uncalled for.

Tomorrow lets say I am traveling in a Bus owned and run by the Gov, I get robbed or assaulted in the bus. Would the Gov ban the bus service?

What is it so difficult to understand here? There are some rules. Uber did not follow them. They got punished (banned).

Driver is implicated and is going through the legal process for punishment.

[bblost]

Originally Posted by srameshdelhi

1. They should not have engaged a driver who does not have a commercial licence.
2. GPS should have been installed and monitored by Uber - As per Delhi rules.
3. Police verification form is not submitted to Delhi Police - This is their official stand, contrary to what is reported here.
4. Emergency Telephone no. of company should be available in the car. - Missing here.
5. They say in the T&C that they are not responsible for safety - Therefore, they can't operate at a place which requires a lot of safety.

However, if some city is very safe and there is no such regulations as above are required that city can enjoy the services of Uber - No problem.

These gaps exist in all the Auto-rickshaws that ply in a city.
Autorickshaws have been used by rapists before to abduct victims.

How come they are allowed?

[sudeepg]

Originally Posted by soumobakshi

Rather than banning UBER the more apt decision would have been to ensure that all Yellow Board drivers comply to police verification system once a year and get their licenses renewed (something like fitness certificate).
And without this certificate no Petrol Bunks to dispense fuel for that particular vehicle.

Does a yearly police verification really make the cabs safe? The criminal could commit the crime and never return at all

Originally Posted by balajisv

What will happen to 1000s of drivers who have tied up with Uber and have secured loans to pay for their vehicles?

It is a very unfortunate incident that happened. But, blaming Uber is not fair IMPO.

Two years back Nirbhaya incident occurred in a private bus. Did the government ban private buses plying on Delhi roads?

If drivers are tied up with Uber, they will most likely have to find another company to tie up with now since Uber no longer cannot operate in Delhi. This doesn't mean end of road for them though in my opinion.
It is indeed an unfortunate incident. What happened in Nirbhaya case and how the govt handled it then is well known. There was no action until the matter escalated. The current govt has taken some action (Please note, do not mistake that this is a blind fold support for the current govt)

Originally Posted by PetrolRider

When I book a radio cab, they claim it as GPS tracked and safe. When this particular cab is on hire and suddenly goes offline, what the so called technology driven company was doing?
At least they could call up the driver and ask him. Of course they know that the cab is on hire and without completing the journey went offline. This is a gross negligence on their part.

So true! The technology is only there for namesake, even security in most cases. When the real need arises, there is no one really monitoring.

Originally Posted by PetrolRider

A hefty compensation to the victim should do the justice.

Really? A hefty compensation returns the victim's dignity and is all justified? In my opinion, there is no better justice than bringing the criminal to task and sooner.