The Cricket Thread

vibbs · 7th March 2017, 11:10

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Originally Posted by hemanth.anand

you spoke too early!

In the current scenario, atleast a lead of 180 should give us something to bowl at

Yeah. Maybe I am just Jinxed!!

Sawyer · 7th March 2017, 11:16

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Originally Posted by hemanth.anand

189 ... you are still not sure

No certainties in cricket; all I said today was that if we now lose with a lead of 180ish, our spinners are as vastly overrated as our batsman are as masters of spin.

pratyush6 · 7th March 2017, 11:17

Whatever we get, if we bowl well, we should be in the game. We have to take cues from the first innings and hope some luck comes our way

Else, I am mighty impressed with Aussies, they have done, what we do to other touring teams.

@Sawyer : Don't think our spinners are vastly overrated, Aussies have played well, while Indian batsmen have clearly not thought this through. Then there is also the case of fatigue setting in - not sure about it though, it has been a long season.

Edit:
Target of 188 - I would have taken it yesterday. Can we bowl well and can the Aussies wilt? (like so many touring teams); if they don't, then Aussies will win. It's more of a mental game now with the score we have, rather than talent or anything.

Sawyer · 7th March 2017, 11:37

If we lose now, I will still maintain that our spinners are vastly overrated.
Let's see what they do now to live up to their reputation; this isn't a score chased down very often against India in India.

hemanth.anand · 7th March 2017, 11:50

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Originally Posted by Sawyer

If this isn't a score chased down very often against India in India.

Yes. That will be the 5th highest if achieved.

PPS · 7th March 2017, 12:04

Kohli's captaincy will be tested! We need to hold onto the catches, can't afford to drop any.

pratyush6 · 7th March 2017, 12:08

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Originally Posted by Sawyer

If we lose now, I will still maintain that our spinners are vastly overrated.
Let's see what they do now to live up to their reputation; this isn't a score chased down very often against India in India.

This isn't an ordinary team either (the Aussies I mean)

Sawyer · 7th March 2017, 12:20

No, but it is far from the great Waugh/Ponting led teams. How many tests did this team lose in Asia before they won in Pune?

We should not call it extraordinary just to keep calling our spinners the same. Great spinners are those that win against extraordinary teams.

NPV · 7th March 2017, 12:25

Maybe it's just me but I think this total is just too low to expect an Indian victory.
Yes, it may still be a close game but the Aussies should get the runs for a win in the end.

*A crazy fan at home is very confident of an Indian win

comfortablynumb · 7th March 2017, 12:31

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Originally Posted by NPV

Maybe it's just me but I think this total is just too low to expect an Indian victory.

It won't even be close; they'll canter to a win easily. As Sawyer said, our spinners (too) are quite overrated.

Cheers,
Vikram

Sawyer · 7th March 2017, 12:44

I am not sure about cantering away, but I can't see a win. Our bowlers don't look the part.

hemanth.anand · 7th March 2017, 13:02

All those "blind" Indian fans who were crying foul about Virat Kohli's dismissal and saying that Benefit of doubt should go to Batsman always...Will be silent on Warner's dismissal now

harry10 · 7th March 2017, 13:44

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Originally Posted by Sawyer

I am not sure about cantering away, but I can't see a win. Our bowlers don't look the part.

I hope you are watching the match. I don't know how much more effort you want from them. They are giving up everything to win.

Sawyer · 7th March 2017, 14:15

I do want them to win; and they may well do so now.
But it isn't because of just effort, it will be effort, ability, brains and mental strength that will make it happen. That is why few sports match up to Test Cricket at its best.

carwatcher · 7th March 2017, 14:35

Top level of Cricket being witnessed.

I remember Michael Slater arguing with Dravid IIRC even though he was 100% wrong.

Then infamous Sydeny test.

Today Smith blatantly looking towards dressing room for review.

All that shameless incidents are against the spirit of the game but Aussies give two hoots to all this as long as they win.

At the other spectrum is WI who offend none with there antics and make for a good viewing with their carnival type celebrations. Remember their two T-20 victories.

But at the same time we should thank Aussies for their intense rivalries with almost every team they play against. Be it ENG, SA, WI, NZ, IND, PAK, SL. No other teams manage that.

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pratyush6 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Toronto Posts: 574 Thanked: 685 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread Whatever we get, if we bowl well, we should be in the game. We have to take cues from the first innings and hope some luck comes our way Else, I am mighty impressed with Aussies, they have done, what we do to other touring teams. @Sawyer : Don't think our spinners are vastly overrated, Aussies have played well, while Indian batsmen have clearly not thought this through. Then there is also the case of fatigue setting in - not sure about it though, it has been a long season. Edit: Target of 188 - I would have taken it yesterday. Can we bowl well and can the Aussies wilt? (like so many touring teams); if they don't, then Aussies will win. It's more of a mental game now with the score we have, rather than talent or anything. Last edited by pratyush6 : 7th March 2017 at 11:30.
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7th March 2017, 11:37	#9244
Sawyer Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 2,678 Thanked: 1,791 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread If we lose now, I will still maintain that our spinners are vastly overrated. Let's see what they do now to live up to their reputation; this isn't a score chased down very often against India in India.
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PPS Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,504 Thanked: 3,870 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread Kohli's captaincy will be tested! We need to hold onto the catches, can't afford to drop any.
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Sawyer Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 2,678 Thanked: 1,791 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread No, but it is far from the great Waugh/Ponting led teams. How many tests did this team lose in Asia before they won in Pune? We should not call it extraordinary just to keep calling our spinners the same. Great spinners are those that win against extraordinary teams.
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NPV Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 7,427 Thanked: 10,880 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread Maybe it's just me but I think this total is just too low to expect an Indian victory. Yes, it may still be a close game but the Aussies should get the runs for a win in the end. A crazy fan at home is very confident of an Indian win Last edited by NPV : 7th March 2017 at 12:27.*
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7th March 2017, 12:44	#9251
Sawyer Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 2,678 Thanked: 1,791 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread I am not sure about cantering away, but I can't see a win. Our bowlers don't look the part.
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7th March 2017, 13:02	#9252
hemanth.anand Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 3,314 Thanked: 15,226 Times View My Garage	Re: The Cricket Thread All those "blind" Indian fans who were crying foul about Virat Kohli's dismissal and saying that Benefit of doubt should go to Batsman always...Will be silent on Warner's dismissal now
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7th March 2017, 14:15	#9254
Sawyer Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 2,678 Thanked: 1,791 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread I do want them to win; and they may well do so now. But it isn't because of just effort, it will be effort, ability, brains and mental strength that will make it happen. That is why few sports match up to Test Cricket at its best.
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7th March 2017, 14:35	#9255
carwatcher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bardez, Goa Posts: 1,184 Thanked: 1,032 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread Top level of Cricket being witnessed. I remember Michael Slater arguing with Dravid IIRC even though he was 100% wrong. Then infamous Sydeny test. Today Smith blatantly looking towards dressing room for review. All that shameless incidents are against the spirit of the game but Aussies give two hoots to all this as long as they win. At the other spectrum is WI who offend none with there antics and make for a good viewing with their carnival type celebrations. Remember their two T-20 victories. But at the same time we should thank Aussies for their intense rivalries with almost every team they play against. Be it ENG, SA, WI, NZ, IND, PAK, SL. No other teams manage that.
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