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Old 19th July 2024, 16:00   #17581
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Their selection was needless. They should be solely concentrating on Test Cricket till the end of the Australian tour. Kohli has a different perspective towards life now so don't see him playing the entire quota of games.
I don't care what Kohli perspective is about his life. That's his personal thing. All I care about is till the time he is playing for India he should have his focus on teams winning like he always had. As per reports both Rohit and Kohli weren't supposed to play. But Gambhir requested so they are playing.

I would have done the same if I was Gambhir. Enough rest has been given since T20 win and ODI series start which is just 3 games. And after that also there is enough time to rest till tests come. Like I mentioned India plays only 7 Odis before Champions trophy with a long test season in between. Gambhir as a new coach needs sometime to make a solid combination for Champions trophy that's why he wants the A team to play all 7 odis. Bumrah is an exception as his injury load has to be maintained.

If Virat and Rohit weren't playing and India goes on to lose champions trophy then also we will blame Gambhir that he didn't make seniors play few odis for practice and hence we lost.

Also, it will be fun to see the dynamics between Gambhir and seniors after all that social media stuff

As per reports Jadeja wasn't picked for ODI as selectors are now looking at Axar and Washington for both white ball formats. Looks like Jaddu will only play tests now.

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Old 19th July 2024, 18:31   #17582
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Feel for Samson & Ruturaj. Both of them are in form and I thought Gambhir would persist on form than past records. Surprising to see Pant. He has been given enough chances in limited overs and hasn't really played well to keep his place. We have a good problem of too many openers. Rohit, Jaiswal, Gill and Ruturaj.
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Old 22nd July 2024, 13:56   #17583
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Like I mentioned India plays only 7 Odis before Champions trophy with a long test season in between. Gambhir as a new coach needs sometime to make a solid combination for Champions trophy that's why he wants the A team to play all 7 odis.
The ODI setup pretty much selects itself, it will be more or less similar to 2023 ODI WC :-

Rohit
Gill
Virat
Iyer
KL Rahul / Pant
Hardik
Jadeja / Axar
Kuldeep
Shami
Siraj
Bumrah

Playing 7 ODIs in 7 months isn't going to help!

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As per reports Jadeja wasn't picked for ODI as selectors are now looking at Axar and Washington for both white ball formats. Looks like Jaddu will only play tests now.
Today Agarkar has clarified that Jadeja has been rested due to the long Test Season ahead. But then why were Rohit & Virat picked since they'll also be playing Tests!
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...If Virat and Rohit weren't playing and India goes on to lose champions trophy then also we will blame Gambhir that he didn't make seniors play few odis for practice and hence we lost...
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The ODI setup pretty much selects itself, it will be more or less similar to 2023 ODI WC...
Playing 7 ODIs in 7 months isn't going to help!
But then why were Rohit & Virat picked since they'll also be playing Tests!
Exactly. There is no logic in asking Sharma and Kohli to play ODIs that too against a team like SL. Both select themselves in the playing XI and nothing needs to be checked/ tested. Instead GG could have picked either Ruturaj or Abhishek Sharma or any of the other million batsmen and tried them out. Especially when he said he'd want Sharma and Kohli to play ODI WC 2027. What if one of them (or both) bow out before then? Who are the backup players?

This is plain stupidity. This SL ODI series is virtually of no consequence except for prep.
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Exactly. There is no logic in asking Sharma and Kohli to play ODIs that too against a team like SL. Both select themselves in the playing XI and nothing needs to be checked/ tested. Instead GG could have picked either Ruturaj or Abhishek Sharma or any of the other million batsmen and tried them out. Especially when he said he'd want Sharma and Kohli to play ODI WC 2027. What if one of them (or both) bow out before then? Who are the backup players?

This is plain stupidity. This SL ODI series is virtually of no consequence except for prep.
I totally back him picking Rohit and Kohli, Jadeja is an allrounder so he can be rested for now. The seniors though if they have an eye on 2027 WC, which will actually be stupidity, should then play now. No Point playing Ruturaj and Abhishek in ODI when they won't even be picked, Abhishek has done nothing to be even considered for ODI, for T20 he should play ahead of Gill.

Also a low profile series like this could be a good place for GG to build working culture with Seniors as well, it will be a disaster if they start working closer to Champions trophy.
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India played like true champions and demolished SL in the ongoing 3 match T20 series, taking an unassailable 2-0 lead.

-Jaiswal is exceptional. Should be the future of Indian batting.
-Without Bumrah, the bowling looks.. mediocre. Bumrah should be treated like a national treasure and asked to play only SENA and ICC trophies. He can rest all he wants against the rest.
-Watching Pant bat in T20s is...painful. The less said about Samson the better. Doesn't get enough chances but when he does, oh my!
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India played like true champions and demolished SL in the ongoing 3 match T20 series, taking an unassailable 2-0 lead.

-Jaiswal is exceptional. Should be the future of Indian batting.
-Without Bumrah, the bowling looks.. mediocre. Bumrah should be treated like a national treasure and asked to play only SENA and ICC trophies. He can rest all he wants against the rest.
-Watching Pant bat in T20s is...painful. The less said about Samson the better. Doesn't get enough chances but when he does, oh my!
Samson is an enigma.
Doesn't gets selected - fans create uproar by Justice for Samson on social media.
Gets selected and played - Bats like a tailender. That was an awful defence for a top order bat with zero feet movement. Pant plays like an ugly duckling but atleast he has the confidence to try his audacious shots which do come off at times. Plus he has the temperament to play big games. If selectors will look for Pant replacement in t20 then Samson isn't the answer. Need to pick someone else.

After champions trophy I expect Jaiswal to get his ODI debut. Till then ODI team is settled.
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To be fair to Samson, he only got his opportunities to play only when someone was not available or was injured.

And when he got included in the playing 11, he is used as filler at any position the team required, so when he comes out to bat, he's probably confused about his role, gets out for a low score, and eventually he's left out.

He never got an extended run to see whether he's good or not, unlike few other players.

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Samson is an enigma.
Doesn't gets selected - fans create uproar by Justice for Samson on social media.
Gets selected and played - Bats like a tailender.
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To be fair to Samson, he only got his opportunities to play only when someone was not available or was injured.

And when he got included in the playing 11, he is used as filler at any position the team required, so when he comes out to bat, he's probably confused about his role, gets out for a low score, and eventually he's left out.

He never got an extended run to see whether he's good or not, unlike few other players.
That is true.
But, with so much competition going on he has to grab an opportunity whenever it arrives. Even a solid 30 would have done good for him in this game. It's not that he got out for a 1st ball duck. It's the manner he got out which have raised eyebrows. Like I mentioned before, that was a really bad defence by a top order bat. Maybe he gets a chance again today and makes it count. Lets hope for his sake as age isn't on his side for long.
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And one more duck, he is making it very tough for himself.
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Wow what a thriller, like watching a Hitchcock movie, full of twists and turns, ending in a Super Over, which was a cake walk.

Congratulations SKY and GG, for maiden T20 whitewash.
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What a match, with the game going into a super over, it was truly a thrilling contest. Washington Sundar put up an all-round performance and was aptly named Man of the Match.
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Appreciate the sheer gumption of the captain in bringing himself in to bowl that critical over. Some might consider it a reckless move, but the way things turned out, this action of his will be discussed for long.

Way to lead the team .
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And one more duck, he is making it very tough for himself.
Along with a dropped catch and some ordinary keeping.
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Along with a dropped catch and some ordinary keeping.
I feel that KL is not a good option for T20 cricket. He is an average keeper at best and an average batter.

However, he is a far better option than both Pant and Samson. He should be the default wicketkeeper until we find someone better (Jurel, maybe??)
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