Team-BHP > Shifting gears
Register New Topics New Posts Top Thanked Team-BHP FAQ


Reply
  Search this Thread
2,759,792 views
Old 10th July 2024, 20:54   #17566
Distinguished - BHPian
 
AtheK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 2,077
Thanked: 8,657 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

If anyone it should have been Gill who should have batted at #3, Abhishek and Jaiswal should open the innings going forward till it is proven that Abhishek has some technical flaw. Gill just could not accelerate later also, we should definitely look at keeping Gill reserved for ODI and Tests where I don't think Abhishek can fit yet.

Abhishek
Jaiswal
Pant
Sky
Hardik
Rinku
Need an all rounder here Washington Sundar/Dube?
Axar
Arshdeep
Kuldeep
Bumrah

If dube can start bowling the above team can be a solid team for the next world cup.
AtheK is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 10th July 2024, 23:02   #17567
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 192
Thanked: 539 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by AtheK View Post
If dube can start bowling the above team can be a solid team for the next world cup.
Not just Dube, but both the openers Jaiswal and Abhishek should be groomed to turn their spinning arm over, when required. Always better to have multiple choice especially when the next T20 WC is in the subcontinent.
Fx14 is offline  
Old 11th July 2024, 16:28   #17568
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,287
Thanked: 1,015 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fx14 View Post
Not just Dube, but both the openers Jaiswal and Abhishek should be groomed to turn their spinning arm over, when required..
Not this please.
We had a world class swing bowler called Irfan Pathan and then somebody tried to convert him into an all rounder and that was the end of Pathan. Let's not try to do these experiments anymore.
joslicx is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 11th July 2024, 19:55   #17569
PPS
Senior - BHPian
 
PPS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: mumbai
Posts: 2,492
Thanked: 3,767 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by joslicx View Post
We had a world class swing bowler called Irfan Pathan and then somebody tried to convert him into an all rounder and that was the end of Pathan.
If I recollect they (Chappell & Co.) wanted Irfan to add a yard of pace to make him even more effective but in search of speed he lost his swing which was his main weapon!
PPS is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 11th July 2024, 21:00   #17570
BHPian
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Riyadh
Posts: 472
Thanked: 3,022 Times
Infractions: 0/1 (5)
Re: The Cricket Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by PPS View Post
If I recollect they (Chappell & Co.) wanted Irfan to add a yard of pace to make him even more effective but in search of speed he lost his swing which was his main weapon!
Not to increase his pace, Chappel tried to push him as a batting allrounder, that’s why he was sent up the batting order in many matches, eventually he lost his midas touch in swing bowling and then was consistently in and out of the cricket team, till he finally called for his retirement.
NomadSK is online now   (2) Thanks
Old 18th July 2024, 20:23   #17571
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: --
Posts: 24,011
Thanked: 70,692 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

T20I and ODI Indian Team for SL series announced.

Suryakumar was preferred by the selectors over Hardik Pandya, who was the vice-captain of the 2024 T20 World Cup winning squad.
It's also seen as the first step towards building for the next T20 World Cup in India and Sri Lanka in 2026.

The Sri Lanka tour will also mark the beginning of Gautam Gambhir's tenure as India's head coach having replaced Rahul Dravid in the job.

The Cricket Thread-screenshot-20240718-202210.png

Last edited by volkman10 : 18th July 2024 at 20:49.
volkman10 is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 18th July 2024, 21:27   #17572
Team-BHP Support
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: All over!
Posts: 7,815
Thanked: 19,409 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Pandya was the Vice Captain for the T20I World Cup; he's not the Captain nor VC now. Clear indication that his body might not hold up being a full-time three-format player. Kuldeep Yadav was an important bowler in the WC, but is not even in the 15-member squad for T20I, but in that for the ODIs?! And Gill over KL Rahul in ODIs?

What about Ashwin / Jadeja? Is it the end of the road for Ishan Kishan?

Very confusing team selection that sends mixes signals to players about their place/future in the team.
libranof1987 is offline  
Old 18th July 2024, 21:52   #17573
Senior - BHPian
 
SoumenD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: India
Posts: 1,779
Thanked: 6,566 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by volkman10 View Post
T20I and ODI Indian Team for SL series announced.
In T20 squad, Abhishek Sharma dropped & Riyan Parag is in?

Last edited by SoumenD : 18th July 2024 at 21:53.
SoumenD is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 18th July 2024, 22:25   #17574
Senior - BHPian
 
harry10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Faridabad/Delhi
Posts: 2,734
Thanked: 3,861 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoumenD View Post
In T20 squad, Abhishek Sharma dropped & Riyan Parag is in?
Pan Parag is inevitable

Some stupid selections indeed. Abhishek needs more international game time to see if he can sustain his aggressive approach in Internationals.

Gaikwad, best better in Zimbabwe series isn't in any squad. Shambolic from selectors.
harry10 is offline  
Old 19th July 2024, 09:18   #17575
BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 382
Thanked: 3,359 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by libranof1987 View Post
...Very confusing team selection that sends mixes signals to players about their place/future in the team.
Seriously very confusing team selection.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoumenD View Post
In T20 squad, Abhishek Sharma dropped & Riyan Parag is in?
Parag has been the best performer in domestic circuit and in IPL too. They had to reward domestic play.

Quote:
Originally Posted by harry10 View Post
...Some stupid selections indeed...
This was the best series to try Gaikwad, Abhishek, etc. There was absolutely no need to call Kohli, Sharma for this SL tour.

GG era is it?
ValarMorghulis is offline  
Old 19th July 2024, 10:53   #17576
BHPian
 
ranjitnair77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 290
Thanked: 1,645 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoumenD View Post
In T20 squad, Abhishek Sharma dropped & Riyan Parag is in?
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry10 View Post
Pan Parag is inevitable

Some stupid selections indeed. Abhishek needs more international game time to see if he can sustain his aggressive approach in Internationals.

Gaikwad, best better in Zimbabwe series isn't in any squad. Shambolic from selectors.
T20s are increasingly getting specialised, especially lower order batting which is why I think this was done.

The squad contains both Gill and Jaiswal who are the current locks for opening the batting. It also has Samson who is a top 3 batter plus reserve wicketkeeper. Pant will bat at 3. SKY will bat at 4. If they pick both Abhishek and Gaikwad, we have 6 people in the squad who bat in the top 3 which leads to team imbalance.

I'm not saying Parag is the right pick just yet, but he is a lower order power hitter who had an excellent IPL and domestic season. Therefore a better fit for requirements. He is also a gun fielder.

I don't think we can have both Gill and Gaikwad in the same squad. Both are similar 'build-an-innings' kind of players so Gaikwad understandably misses out despite good numbers. I think Abhishek should have replaced Gill at the top but Shubman is being groomed for captaincy.
ranjitnair77 is offline  
Old 19th July 2024, 11:05   #17577
BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 699
Thanked: 1,534 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Hope Hardik concentrates on cricket more. He should try to be a medium pace, line and length, swing bowler to overcome injuries. His batting is fine. He is going through a lot I guess, being snubbed in IPL, now in captaincy/vice-captaincy and personal issues.

I dont think our whole team should have T20 specialists among the current younger players. We are not sure about their consistency and should not become a very good or very bad kind of situation. This might force SKY to become an anchor kind of player
PreludeSH is offline  
Old 19th July 2024, 11:16   #17578
Team-BHP Support
 
Eddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Delhi
Posts: 9,431
Thanked: 13,654 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Relax guys. We were all over the captain, selectors, and coach in the last two world cups with squad selection, captaincy choice etc.

We had egg on our faces both times. So let us trust them and admit they know better than us.

PS: I still don't trust Gambhir. He has extreme likes and dislikes when it comes to individuals.
Eddy is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 19th July 2024, 11:42   #17579
Senior - BHPian
 
harry10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Faridabad/Delhi
Posts: 2,734
Thanked: 3,861 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by ValarMorghulis View Post
Seriously very confusing team selection.



Parag has been the best performer in domestic circuit and in IPL too. They had to reward domestic play.


This was the best series to try Gaikwad, Abhishek, etc. There was absolutely no need to call Kohli, Sharma for this SL tour.

GG era is it?
Nope. Parag has not been the best performer in domestic or ipl. He had a good domestic season and one decent ipl season this year. There are many better than him. And I have no issue in him getting chances. Issue is he is getting chances above more talented and deserving players. Especially in ODI team he just doesn't make any sense over someone like Samson who in his last game made a 100 against SA in SA. And if he is being played then his bowling should be utilized too. It's time we have t20 players who have more than one skill.

It's good Rohit and Kohli are playing ODI against SL. Before champions trophy India is only playing 7 ODI. So, obviously Gambhir wants to look at full strength squad. Hardik would have played too if not for his personal issues. I don't expect changes in Champions trophy squad from World cup 23 squad except for entry of Hardik and Pant in line up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ranjitnair77 View Post

I don't think we can have both Gill and Gaikwad in the same squad. Both are similar 'build-an-innings' kind of players so Gaikwad understandably misses out despite good numbers. I think Abhishek should have replaced Gill at the top but Shubman is being groomed for captaincy.
Don't get this fascination for Gill by BCCI. He is an average Captain. Just because he is marketable bcci is turning him into their poster boy like they did with Rohit and Kohli. In ODI and tests Gill as Player is fine but in t20 he shouldn't be there and they will realise this soon. Rutu has been done bad like it's happened with Samson many times.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreludeSH View Post
Hope Hardik concentrates on cricket more. He should try to be a medium pace, line and length, swing bowler to overcome injuries. His batting is fine. He is going through a lot I guess, being snubbed in IPL, now in captaincy/vice-captaincy and personal issues.

I dont think our whole team should have T20 specialists among the current younger players. We are not sure about their consistency and should not become a very good or very bad kind of situation. This might force SKY to become an anchor kind of player
Never been fond of Hardik as a person. Extremely fond of him as Hardik the allrounder for India. His crying like a baby after world cup win showed how much in his mind he is going through. Let him be. Let him conquer personal issues and then come back and help us win champions trophy.

SKY can never be an anchor in t20. He has build a niche game style for himself. Don't see him changing it. He won't be consistent due to that style but he will be very effective when it comes good.
harry10 is offline  
Old 19th July 2024, 14:54   #17580
PPS
Senior - BHPian
 
PPS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: mumbai
Posts: 2,492
Thanked: 3,767 Times
Re: The Cricket Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by libranof1987 View Post
Pandya was the Vice Captain for the T20I World Cup; he's not the Captain nor VC now. Clear indication that his body might not hold up being a full-time three-format player.
Hardik has always been a 2-format player! Don't remember when was the last time he played Test Cricket. With his fragile body he'll play limited cricket.

Quote:
Kuldeep Yadav was an important bowler in the WC, but is not even in the 15-member squad for T20I, but in that for the ODIs?!
Probably rested from the T20s. In the absence of a proper press conference not clear who's rested or dropped. Avesh has been dropped while Khaleel has been picked.

Quote:
And Gill over KL Rahul in ODIs?
Iyer ideally should have been groomed as an ODI Skipper but missed out due to those disciplinary issues.

Quote:
What about Ashwin / Jadeja?
As per TOI source, Jadeja has been dropped from ODIs as Selectors are looking at Axar & Washington.

Quote:
Originally Posted by harry10 View Post
Abhishek needs more international game time to see if he can sustain his aggressive approach in Internationals.
For that to happen Gill or Jaiswal will need to be dropped & that aint happening now that Gill has been announced as Vice-Captain that too after a forgettable IPL season.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ValarMorghulis View Post
There was absolutely no need to call Kohli, Sharma for this SL tour.
+100 What exactly do Rohit & Kohli gain from this series! Apparently GG forced their selection citing 6 week break after this Series.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreludeSH View Post
Hope Hardik concentrates on cricket more. He should try to be a medium pace, line and length, swing bowler to overcome injuries.
Hardik was never a swing bowler, he's always been a hit-the-deck bowler.

Quote:
Originally Posted by harry10 View Post
It's good Rohit and Kohli are playing ODI against SL. Before champions trophy India is only playing 7 ODI.
Their selection was needless. They should be solely concentrating on Test Cricket till the end of the Australian tour. Kohli has a different perspective towards life now so don't see him playing the entire quota of games.
PPS is offline  
Reply

Most Viewed


Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks