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Originally Posted by vivekiny2k
I beg to differ. in hyd or bangalore, you can still stop in the middle of road, spit some pan, abuse the autowallah relating to the women in his family (I guess I went a little too far here), and move on. Just like in punjab ![Big Grin](https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.png) |
Well we do not do that in Punjab much. Yes it happens in punjab, but is extremely rare. Standing in middle of the road and spitting happens more where I stay now
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BTW I have seen a man open a car door while driving, and spit pan, San Jose! Guess where he was from
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Originally Posted by e1t1bet Are you trying to imply that Tata, Reliance, Bharti, ICICI, HDFC, ONGC,ITC, OIL, HUL, P&G, Infosys, Wipro etc etc etc discriminate on the basis of a person's native state and language? How profound!!! |
What kind of utopia you are living in. Ever heard of glass ceiling. Just the way you say there is a glass ceiling which will prevent an Indian from becoming the CEO of American MNC. there are lots of Indian companies where people from a certain region at mostly at the top.
Discrimination exists everywhere in the world, you are trying to paint some kind of picture that its much more in the west, than in the east.
Well you are mistaken. If you ask a Delhi native, "is there racism in Delhi?" He will say "Are you kidding me? There is none". However if you ask a north East guy the answer will be different.
So maybe your kind are in majority in the IT industry in India. For you definitely its better here. But for somebody who is in minority, things may be different.
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No. A ghetto need not be a slum.
From wiki:
"Ghetto was originally used in Venice to describe the area where Jews were compelled to live. A ghetto is now described as a "portion of a city in which members of a minority group live; especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure."[1]"
At this point, I must also say that a lot of people move abroad for pure career opportunities. And yes, that is a big plus abroad. India doesn't have those many industries, and good univs are difficult to get into.
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There are lots of Ghettos in India too. Just like anywhere in the world. And having spent extensive time in California, I mostly stayed in apartment complexes which had a head healthy mix of Asian/South Asian/Afro/White etc., Do not paint abroad with the same picture. Its not some one entity. Just like in India, the midwest is totally different from cities like SFO and Vancouver..
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Originally Posted by Gansan I beg to differ, though I have never been abroad. To grin and bear a snide remark or even a slur from someone in another state of India, and from someone in a foreign land has a subtle difference. The former is (figuratively) from your own brother, while the latter is from a total stranger. The playing field is level in the former, not in the latter. Moreover such occurances in India are extremely rare. |
Yes you may think that an Indian is figuratively my brother, but I have no such delusions about somebody who is racist against me!
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If I have to move to Punjab tomorrow, though I may initially find the place strange, I am sure I will not be discriminated against, except may be a friendly taunt or two from a few. More importantly, whatever the average joe on the street may think, I will have as much a constitutional right to live in Punjab as he does. Which will not be the case in a foreign land and one will always be on the defensive.
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Imagine a Australian telling you this
"Well mate, there is no racism any where in Europe. I recently moved there, and there are no race issues". Won't you laugh.
Your Punjab example is equivalent.
Punjab has a certain type of racism. Its called economic racism against natives of certain parts of the country.
To feel it
1. You have to be from a certain part of the country(which I will not specify here)
2. Along with that you have to be a farm hand or a rickshaw puller.
Only when 1 and 2 are met, you will get the doze.
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Originally Posted by e1t1bet Institutesx are made by its employees, yes. But there can be bias at the institute level, only if at the microscopic level, all biases are aligned. It isn't that all bosses favour Tamilians or people from some state specifically. Out of 100 managers, 30 might be neutral, and the remaining 70 might all favour different communities. The resultant is , thus, no bias. And if one is caught in such a situation, then, nothing stops the person from switching jobs... |
You are contradicting yourself. You say 70% managers are regionalistic and its not a problem? And things balance out?
Well things may balance out for a region where the representation is high. For example if 20% of all engineers belong to region X.
What about region Y which contributes to maybe just 0.01% of the managers.
Lets say out of 1000 managers in 10 companies a total of 2 managers belong to region Y.
Where you do you think that person goes?
Its very easy to be part of the majority and pretend there is no racism.