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Mod Note: No more off-topic posts please. Kindly focus your posts just on emigration. Thanks!

[Hamala53]

Originally Posted by saildrive

Hi

Just happened to drop my sister in law / her husband and her family of 2 daughters (12 & 2) to the airport heading to Canada!...

Canada is a great country to work and live if you want a less stress free life than USA but ofcourse the earning level will be lesser than USA.
Pros:
Mutiracial society
Big India population
very good higher education .
Good Social security net
Availability of all things indian !

Cons: Weather severe winter which you and the children will adapt easily.
Health care: Though free getting appointment with specialists or investigations takes long time. Only alternate is emergency room visit in hospitals.
Education: Upto school it is free for kids but college education costs more.
Tax : Personal income tax is as high as 43% and everything other than veggies attracts Tax like our GST.

If you are a professional should apply for PR by writing IELTS and try the luck in lottery. It is better to get a PR/job from here and move there than going there and searching for one.
Having a PR will definitely get you some job to start with if one is desperate to move.
Many Indian IT companies have opened their centres in Canada.

All the above are from being the father of a daughter who is there since a decade!

[mohansrides]

Originally Posted by mohansrides

…What's more, your family and dependents who played no part in your decision to go abroad will be deeply affected. They will simply be living their lives to wake up one day to find themselves wrested away from everything that they know and hold dear. This is not as uncommon as people think and when it happens, it can be life shattering for those innocents.

Apologies for quoting myself.

https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/...tation-3770700

Please read in full.

Thanks

[poloman]

Originally Posted by mohansrides

Apologies for quoting myself.

https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/...tation-3770700

Please read in full.

Thanks

I am not sure what you meant by quoting the article?
One might immediately link this to the uncertainties faced by people who face layoffs.
Another group may paint this how teens born and brought up in US and their parents who are born and brought up here feel India is a hell hole and they can be happy only in US.
Do some background check. May be this has nothing to do with any of this.
https://twitter.com/ConwayPolice/sta...02656767909888

The tweet from Police is from 2019, the same girl had ran away when she was 11. She has done it again in 2023. The father is twisting this as due to pressure of facing the uncertainty and pressure to return to India. The girl was surely under pressure, but rest are mere speculations from both family and media.

[mohansrides]

Originally Posted by poloman

I am not sure what you meant by quoting the article? .

I think you are reading too much into the details. You could very well be right and immigration could be a spin that the parent is putting on it.

But the point is that the story is an example of uncertainties that dependents of H1B face all the time. Most such stories don’t make the news. Ever. This one did. So I posted. That’s all.

[poloman]

Originally Posted by mohansrides

I think you are reading too much into the details. You could very well be right and immigration could be a spin that the parent is putting on it.

But the point is that the story is an example of uncertainties that dependents of H1B face all the time. Most such stories don’t make the news. Ever. This one did. So I posted. That’s all.

I totally agree with you. But this is what they willingly subscribed for. If you think and feed your children the impression that there is no life beyond US or foreign shores. Why should others be concerned of you?

Indian media is full of sob stories of Indians laid off in US. What about Indians laid off in India? They don't face any pressures and their issues don't need attention and sympathy?

[mohansrides]

Originally Posted by poloman

I totally agree with you. But this is what they willingly subscribed for. If you think and feed your children the impression that there is no life beyond US or foreign shores. Why should others be concerned of you?

Indian media is full of sob stories of Indians laid off in US. What about Indians laid off in India? They don't face any pressures and their issues don't need attention and sympathy?

This is a thread about emigration and its pros and cons. And this news is about a possible con of emigration. Hence posted here.

People getting laid off in India is being discussed elsewhere on the forum; like in that jobs and attrition thread.

[poloman]

Originally Posted by mohansrides

This is a thread about emigration and its pros and cons. And this news is about a possible con of emigration. Hence posted here.

People getting laid off in India is being discussed elsewhere on the forum; like in that jobs and attrition thread.

I don't have anything against your post. My sincere request to the immigrants who read this is not to paint returning to India when you are laid off, like end of world.

[McLaren Rulez]

Originally Posted by poloman

Indian media is full of sob stories of Indians laid off in US. What about Indians laid off in India? They don't face any pressures and their issues don't need attention and sympathy?

It's not specific to the US but if you're laid off abroad, your visa status going with the job is the issue. You need to either find a new job within a very tight deadline or uproot your entire life and move countries.

Indeed, it's not the end of the world but it's a lot more stressful than being laid off in India.

[akhil_007]

Posting on behalf of my buddy whom I know for 20 years

Would it make sense to go to Canada(Toronto) for short term(3-4 years only) if end goal is to make money abroad? No plans to settle in Canada. Will definitely return to India. Would like to Experience living abroad

With the following factors considered

1. Current salary(hubby+wife) updwards of 60 lakhs in India
2. Its a company transfer for wife. Approx CAD 100K salary
3. Husband has got Open Work Permit. Need to search for job once landing in Canada
4. 2 Kids aged 5 and 2
5. Living fairly well off life in India but recent land purchase has kept their monthly commitments to 2L approx and net savings of 50K

Thanks in advance

[sunilch]

Originally Posted by akhil_007

Posting on behalf of my buddy whom I know for 20 years

Would it make sense to go to Canada(Toronto) for short term(3-4 years only) if end goal is to make money abroad? No plans to settle in Canada. Will definitely return to India. Would like to Experience living abroad

With the following factors considered

1. Current salary(hubby+wife) updwards of 60 lakhs in India
2. Its a company transfer for wife. Approx CAD 100K salary
3. Husband has got Open Work Permit. Need to search for job once landing in Canada
4. 2 Kids aged 5 and 2
5. Living fairly well off life in India but recent land purchase has kept their monthly commitments to 2L approx and net savings of 50K

Thanks in advance

Experience of living abroad in a different and diverse society will be worth the move. Better environment, better education facilities for kids, better chance to see the world.

They may save less than in India in the first year or so.

If they have financial commitments in India, they may struggle in the first year if not planned properly with reserves.

Eventually, if they progress well in their career they will save more when both will be working. But until then, they may loose money (in relative terms).

Finding a job in Canada is not as easy or as fast when compared to US. But this is a big move anyways and so some struggle is expected.

[rajivr1612]

Dear BHPians,

My wife has an offer to relocate to their Porto, Portugal office. She is a wind power systems design engineer. As of now she doesn't have any information about compensation and other benefits. It does come with family status as informed by her.

We have a son studying in 7th std. here in Chennai and if she chooses to and is selected to relocate, our son would also move with her.

We would like to know about the educational options and challenges that our kid could face. We don't even know at what stage of the academic year he might have to move.

Any other details like cost of living, safety etc. are also appreciated.

Link to websites or forums in this regard will be helpful.

Thanks.

[AZT]

Originally Posted by akhil_007

Posting on behalf of my buddy whom I know for 20 years

Would it make sense to go to Canada(Toronto) for short term(3-4 years only) if end goal is to make money abroad?

I've moved to Toronto recently, also inter company transfer. At that CAD salary better to stay put. They can check online what their in hand salary will be and see below expenses.

I stay by myself and pay 2400 in rent for a 1 bed. They would need a 2 bed so bare minimum rent would be ~2700 - 3000 depending on the area. They are used to a good life so anything below this would be a basement or just a bad area which they wouldn't like.

Groceries would be another 600 - 800 easy for a family of 4. They'll probably need a car since it's a 4 person family. Add entertainment and travel expenses as well. I'm not sure of the schooling or day care expenses.

If the husband finds work and they can collectively cross CAD 170k - 200k then it should be good. Anything below that will be a struggle as they are in a good place now and used to a certain quality of life. I can't comment on job availability as it varies from sector but the market is tight. The numbers depend on individual expenses too.

You can DM me if they have any questions they cant ask here or just want to ask about the move in general.

[download2live]

Originally Posted by akhil_007

Would it make sense to go to Canada(Toronto) for short term(3-4 years only) if end goal is to make money abroad? No plans to settle in Canada. Will definitely return to India. Would like to Experience living abroad

If the goal is to save up money then do not take family. It might sound a bit unpleasant but the biggest saving is made by house sharing. It also saves the expense of getting a car and its associated costs. We are talking of a company transfer so I assume insurance and education will be taken care of by the company. Otherwise these two will also be a big drain on money.

[PioneerNB]

Hi All,

I write to you all seeking your honest opinion. I am not an IT guy, I am a normal human resource manager, with luck I got an opportunity to get an employment in Poland from my current organization.

1. They promised me a promotion and fell back on it this year, due to which financially it is getting difficult. And my Manager and function is not the most supportive so i am at a dead end here. We are living pay check to pay check- whereas in India we were comfortable due to own home and no rent.

2. Me and my wife have come here- she is trying to find jobs but very difficult given the job market here is more local language oriented for digital marketing and my wife is just a beginner and not very skilled as conversing in English. Fingers crossed she finds a job soon that would end our dilemma.(period)

3. Due to EU rules of waiting for 2 years before finding a new job and me not being in IT it is very difficult for me to land another job. And with loss of promotion i am 2 levels below what i would be at market(negative effects of staying in same organization for a long time)

If i go back to India we can both find good jobs. But this is once in a lifetime opportunity and we feel if we go back we might never again get an opportunity to come abroad and settle down- long term ambition is to be outside India.

Have anyone amongst you faced such a situation? and how did you handle it.

thank you for your views as for now, we both are confused- we like the quality of life but also miss the standard of life what India offers.