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Old 20th January 2019, 22:19   #2101
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Re: The Weight Loss Thread

Saw this video on YouTube where the lady talks about Intermittent Fasting.
Seems logical by what is said in the video.
Will research more and get this program started.



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Old 21st January 2019, 07:08   #2102
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Saw this video on YouTube where the lady talks about Intermittent Fasting.
Seems logical by what is said in the video.
Will research more and get this program started.
Though I don't agree with the explanation of how constant eating spoils our body (like food sticking to the intestines, stomach constantly working), the food plan prescribed in the video etc., I believe the video does do it's job of making a layman understand the importance of intermittent fasting and clean eating. My intent is not to discuss the inaccuracies of this video. If the video can convert people to start eating clean, then it has achieved its purpose.

The mechanism that spoils our bodies over years is more complex than food sticking to the intestines or stomach being busy with digestion. It is not at the level of digestion, but at the level of hormones, insulin to be specific.

Search for "Jason Fung intermittent fasting" and watch his videos. He is a doctor by profession and uses intermittent fasting as a therapeutic tool to cure his patients of obesity and type 2 diabetes. He explains very clearly the mechanism behind obesity and diabetes and how intermittent fasting and low carb diets can totally reverse these problems.

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Though I don't agree with the explanation of how constant eating spoils our body (like food sticking to the intestines, stomach constantly working) etc., I believe the video does do it's job of making a layman understand the importance of intermittent fasting and clean eating.

Search for "Jason Fung intermittent fasting" and watch his videos.
Thank you for a constructive critique of the above YouTube video.
I will research Jason Fung & intermittent fasting.
Hoping to end 2019 as a healthier and fitter person.
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First step, replace breakfast with just couple eggs. Maintain this for a week. If you can do this, then replace roti/rice with say moong dal dosa for lunch and dinner. Dal based roti/dosa will let you eliminate both rice and wheat from your diet.

Hunger pangs are caused because of your carb craving body. Once you overcome this part, your will not have hunger pangs. But it will take 2-3 weeks for losing the hunger pangs. Read the first post of this thread fully.

Many of us LCHF followers can do IF (16 hours fasting) or even OMAD (23 hour fasting) on a regular basis without hunger pangs. But the initial period is tough. You need to get over it.
I had taken up LCHF diet in 2017, and went down from 75 kg to 67 kg in about 3 months. I have also never felt hungry or the need to cheat while on that diet, and successfully reached my target weight.

However, sustaining a Keto diet being in a South Indian household is rather tough. And ultimately I could not maintain my weight and came right back to 75 after a year. So this time, I am looking at something more sustainable to lose weight and also stay fit for much longer.
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However, sustaining a Keto diet being in a South Indian household is rather tough. And ultimately I could not maintain my weight and came right back to 75 after a year. So this time, I am looking at something more sustainable to lose weight and also stay fit for much longer.
If you want to sustain the weight loss with typical south Indian diet, then intermittent fasting is the answer. Give it a try.

Even with IF, avoid sugar, maida and other processed food, replace rice with millets, and this should be sustainable and will work great.

Do watch Dr. Jason Fung's Youtube videos on intermittent fasting.
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So this time, I am looking at something more sustainable to lose weight and also stay fit for much longer.
Find a sport or physical activity that you enjoy, that has some sort of community so there is a group aspect to it which will make you enjoy it more and also help you stick with it, and that makes you look forward to it when you are at work or at other times. Swimming, football, running, cycling, gymming, zumba, whatever. Doesn't matter how good you are at it, the key is to continue doing it.

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If you want to sustain the weight loss with typical south Indian diet, then intermittent fasting is the answer. Give it a try.

Even with IF, avoid sugar, maida and other processed food, replace rice with millets, and this should be sustainable and will work great.

Do watch Dr. Jason Fung's Youtube videos on intermittent fasting.
Yes, I did hear about it. But yet to get into the details and decide on how to implement it. Convincing my family for any diet program, seems to be the toughest part of starting any diet

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Find a sport or physical activity that you enjoy, that has some sort of community so there is a group aspect to it which will make you enjoy it more and also help you stick with it, and that makes you look forward to it when you are at work or at other times. Swimming, football, running, cycling, gymming, zumba, whatever. Doesn't matter how good you are at it, the key is to continue doing it.
Yes, that is precisely why I have joined badminton with a group of 3 guys and somehow we pull one another to the court every other week day. And since we mostly play badminton doubles, we end up getting less-worked after an hour of playing. That is why I am trying to sneak in about 16 kms of cycling to get to the court to play. Hoping this would improve my fitness and also help with my weight loss journey.
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Yes, I did hear about it. But yet to get into the details and decide on how to implement it. Convincing my family for any diet program, seems to be the toughest part of starting any diet
Do you have all the 3 meals of the day with family? Hopefully not. usually its the dinner which most families share together. So that leaves both breakfast and lunch under your control. Working on reducing/eliminating these intake slots will give you an easy shot at the 16 hour fasting window. (That is the minimum required).

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Yes, I did hear about it. But yet to get into the details and decide on how to implement it. Convincing my family for any diet program, seems to be the toughest part of starting any diet
You are not alone there. I would say the biggest hurdle in implementing any diet is family and society.

You say you do (or want to do) intermittent fasting, people give you that "Are you crazy!" look.
You say you do (or want to do) LCHF, people say you are on the way to heart attack.
You say you are into running, people say you are going to injure your knees!

The only way to solve this is by educating others - atleast our family, on the details of the diet you plan to follow and why it is good etc. Not an easy task, but totally doable.

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One more convert to the IF trend here. My weight has hovered between the 90-92 mark for almost a decade. Swimming, Gym etc. would bring it down to 87 odd, but would creep back every time I took a break (which happens a lot).

Finally IF has helped get me to the 85 mark in about 3 months. And this weight has thankfully persisted despite breaks from the schedule, gorging during festive seasons etc. Combined IF with a membership to Cult, and can confidently say that I'm at my fittest nearing 40 than at any time in my life.

And my definition of IF is rather simplistic. I just go back home and have dinner right away, many a times without even changing my clothes Around 7 pm is good enough, gives a 14 hour window until breakfast. Trying to extend it during weekends.

As for sugar or carbs, they don't make their way to my shopping cart thus leaving me no choice. It's either tea or a fruit if I feel hungry between meals. Used to have tea during fasting window as well, but have slowly shifted to an occasional black coffee.

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Yes, I did hear about it. But yet to get into the details and decide on how to implement it. Convincing my family for any diet program, seems to be the toughest part of starting any diet



Yes, that is precisely why I have joined badminton with a group of 3 guys and somehow we pull one another to the court every other week day. And since we mostly play badminton doubles, we end up getting less-worked after an hour of playing. That is why I am trying to sneak in about 16 kms of cycling to get to the court to play. Hoping this would improve my fitness and also help with my weight loss journey.
I can totally relate to what you are saying. I hate to mention this but the biggest factor in my weight loss thus far, has been the fact that I'm staying away from my family right now. When at home, I cannot have dinner before 9 pm. And not having breakfast does not work for me, I feel constantly hungry. And if I still persist, have to hear constant mentions of how I'm ruining my health

As if family and constant bombardment of images on media was not enough, we now also to deal with the advent of Swiggy/Zomato. For everyone who manages to lose and maintain their weight in such circumstances, it truly is an achievement.

As for Badminton and running you mentioned, would humbly suggest you add weight training to the routine specially if you haven't done it earlier. Lot of respectable research in the past few years has shown that the health related benefits of weight training cannot be replicated by cardio alone, and this is especially true for middle age.

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After some travel abroad, I stopped going to gym for a while and combined with festivals, year end parties gained about 5 kgs.
Tried doing IF but it was really difficult for me not to have breakfast. I tried to carry breakfast and have it later at office. But then Dosa, Idli etc doesnt taste good if not steaming hot :(

So I am just doing kind of 12:12. Not sure if its right but maybe with reduced calories or something, I was able to reduce my weight by 3 kgs in a month. I do run 12 kms alternate days without any gym. I try to eat less on Saturdays just to make sure I can enjoy the night parties. Its not easy

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After some travel abroad, I stopped going to gym for a while and combined with festivals, year end parties gained about 5 kgs.
Tried doing IF but it was really difficult for me not to have breakfast. I tried to carry breakfast and have it later at office. But then Dosa, Idli etc doesnt taste good if not steaming hot :(

So I am just doing kind of 12:12. Not sure if its right but maybe with reduced calories or something, I was able to reduce my weight by 3 kgs in a month. I do run 12 kms alternate days without any gym. I try to eat less on Saturdays just to make sure I can enjoy the night parties. Its not easy
Yeah, IF is not for everyone. And there are no significant benefits of doing IF vs eating 5-7 meals a day as long as you're eating same number of calories and your aim is to lose fat.

All diet strategies works as long as you control your calories. And cutting calories in the earlier part of the day so that you can have a heavier meal at night is smart too.

Try doing some bodyweight strength building excercises like push ups, squats, pull ups, shoulder presses using 1 liter bottles at home if you don't like going to the gym. This can be done on the days you don't run.
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And there are no significant benefits of doing IF vs eating 5-7 meals a day as long as you're eating same number of calories and your aim is to lose fat.
I think you turned the whole concept of IF upside down by comparing it to calorie counting.
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I think you turned the whole concept of IF upside down by comparing it to calorie counting.
Not sure if it qualifies for a post. Since this is not one of the mainstream threads, I am hoping it would be appropriate.

My response to such thoughts as the post you quoted, after trying IF and Keto is presicely what you put at the very end of your post

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I think you turned the whole concept of IF upside down by comparing it to calorie counting.
Are you saying that a person will lose weight on IF even if he/she is in a calorie surplus? Or because one can't eat in surplus in a short time window that's why you don't need to count calories?

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