[handsofsteel]

Refer my earlier take on this issue. The article below is an interesting read.
https://www.outsideonline.com/health...-much-protein/

[ach1lles]

Originally Posted by Candy$Cars

ON is a dependable brand but I have a few doubts. Don't they do ion-exchange method of filtration and not Cross-flow filtration. Their Gold Standard Whey (the black & red bottle) is not pure isolate but a blend of isolate and concentrate.
Also, I have found their 1 scoop has about 50mg of cholesterol which I think is very high to come from a single scoop. Many other concentrates in market have around 20-30mg and most isolates have it less 10mg.

Gold Standard is a blend with primary source as isolate, through CFM. Allow me to find a source for the CFM, I remember having verified it earlier.

Incidental dietary cholesterol is not in any way bad for humans.

[Marauder]

Slightly OT but what would be the best pre-workout supplement?

[TorqueCovert]

Originally Posted by Marauder

Slightly OT but what would be the best pre-workout supplement?

I have this drink 30mins before my workouts

1 Cup of Black Coffee
Two spoons of whey (Vanilla flavour tastes better)
1/2 cup of any milk
1 tea-spoon of ghee
Pinch of cinnamon and cardamom powder
1 sachet of zero sugar

[shardul_pathak]

Originally Posted by Candy$Cars

I think he rejected it because their recommended scoop to protein content is quite low. I think their 1 scoop is around 36gram while only containing around 24gm of protein. This is quite less compared to other brands and specially Isolates.
Other than this, there is no reason to ditch TWT if you have no other problem like digestion or mixing issue. You can definitely re-stock your unfavoured TWT Whey.
How do you consume it? I have been thinking to buy unflavoured whey but I drink it with water and I am worried about the taste. I am thinking of adding Cadbury Hot Chocolate powder to it to flavour it.

I mix it with water, honestly tastes like lactose powder without any sugar. I'm OK with it since I only take one scoop in about 250ml of water. Havent had an issue with mixing or digestion.

[SlowDough]

Originally Posted by shardul_pathak

Hi @SlowDough, can you please help me understand why your trainer rejected this? I have been on their Unflavoured Whey Isolate for over 4 months now, which has a claimed 30G of protein per scoop. I was taking ISOPure, no carb whey isolate before this. Can't really see much difference.

But want to know from people who have tried The Whole Truth , to understand I should restack after my current stash runs out?

I think my trainer pointed out the difference in the quality of whey. The Whole Truth is made primarily from Whey Concentrate, which is the lowest grade of Whey according to him and based on my own readings. Whey Isolate (which I think is what ISOPure is made of) is better. Hydrolized Whey Isolate is best.

My trainer said that lower grades of Whey have higher chances of causing side effects like Hair Loss.

[alpha1]

Originally Posted by handsofsteel

Refer my earlier take on this issue. The article below is an interesting read.
https://www.outsideonline.com/health...-much-protein/

Why Kidney Specialists Worry About Too Much Protein
Most of the protein you eat is broken down into amino acids which are then used to build or repair muscle. If there’s any extra protein, it will be burned to produce energy. One of the byproducts of burning protein is a waste product called urea. The job of filtering out waste products like urea from your bloodstream is handled by your kidneys, which send the unwanted waste to be excreted in your urine. The more protein you eat, the more urea you’ll produce—and, consequently, the harder your kidneys will have to work.

It’s reasonably well established that eating more protein will lead to an increase in kidney filtration rate, presumably to handle the higher waste load. This is accompanied by dilation of the blood vessels leading to the kidney and an increase in the pressure on the filtering units. Similarly, eating less protein reduces the filtration rate.

But there are many societies and cultures in the world where their diet (due to geography --> weather --> flora & fauna) is mainly animal based: which is primarily fat & proteins.
Surely there would've been studies done on their health? (e.g. Inuits & Masai)

In any case, most people should understand that unless they are genetically different (absent myostatin gene - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myostatin), or taking substances that increases their body's anabolic activities (https://sportrxiv.org/index.php/serv...id=699839824); their ability to utilize proteins is quite low and most of it gets turned into glucose (and consequently fat).
But then there is no point in such ramblings ... the popularity and commercial success of fairness creams stand testimony to futility of facts and logic in the realm of human desires.

[Newtown]

Look for something that is zero carb with no added sugar. Walk into the GNC nutrition store to get authentic products. I have been told by multiple trainers that even they have got regular flour in the ON protein boxes they have bought from Amazon.

[ach1lles]

Originally Posted by alpha1

But there are many societies and cultures in the world where their diet (due to geography --> weather --> flora & fauna) is mainly animal based: which is primarily fat & proteins.
Surely there would've been studies done on their health? (e.g. Inuits & Masai)

In any case, most people should understand that .... their ability to utilize proteins is quite low and most of it gets turned into glucose (and consequently fat).

The word protein comes from the greek word "prōteios", meaning 'of prime importance'.
The sheer number and variety of functions that protein performs for the human body is mind boggling. The musculoskeletal system, sure, but add immune bodies, every connective and structural tissue: joints, cartilage, tendons, ligaments, teeth, hair, skin, nails, production of hormones, neurotransmitters, repair & maintenance of nearly every cell of every organ, synthesis of non-essential amino acids, etc., etc. And if this wasn't enough, it can, in times of need, be an alternate fuel source too, through gluconeogenesis.

A diet severely lacking in quality protein is one of the biggest reasons our health as a nation is in such poor state.

The human body is born with the ability to utilise protein, and the general scientific consensus today for a sedentary human is to ingest approx 1gm per kg of bodyweight of first class protein.
That is for a sedentary human to get by, and is by no means optimal.
The OP has asked for a protein supplement as they workout, and depending on intensity, that generates additional requirement of protein by a minimum of 50%. Which means, at the lowest intensity, which would be that of a beginner, your optimal protein requirement is approximately 1.5 gms per kg of bodyweight.

Originally Posted by alpha1

But then there is no point in such ramblings ... the popularity and commercial success of fairness creams stand testimony to futility of facts and logic in the realm of human desires.

Why so patronising? What facts and logic have you presented?

[shardul_pathak]

Originally Posted by SlowDough

I think my trainer pointed out the difference in the quality of whey. The Whole Truth is made primarily from Whey Concentrate, which is the lowest grade of Whey according to him and based on my own readings. Whey Isolate (which I think is what ISOPure is made of) is better. Hydrolized Whey Isolate is best.

My trainer said that lower grades of Whey have higher chances of causing side effects like Hair Loss.

The Whole Truth also offers a Whey Isolate though? Thats the one I'm having currently.

[Small Bot]

Originally Posted by Small Bot

The Whole Truth whey protein (concentrate, not isolate) was okayish, but spoils easily in its packaging and is somewhat pricey.

Post this, my wife and I tried out the Light Cocoa and the Cold Coffee flavours of the TWT Whey Isolate (24g) variant. It's somewhat cost effective if you buy kilo-packs from their website directly.

These two probably tasted the most decent, with almost zero sugar (natural or added).

One Science, D Protein, ON, Muscle Blaze etc all had some form of artificial sweetener or the other.

We've decided to exclusively stick to TWT Isolate for now.

Only thing is: the packaging is kind of weak and tears easily. So we've bought nice airtight glass jars to store them in.

[nirmaljusdoit]

Amul has introduced whey protein without any additives, at rates which are very competitive, can be ordered online and will be shipped directly to your address.

[sjain2054]

This post is going to give the typical "protein supplements are bad for you" gyaan. I can understand how one might get exasperated with yet another fellow giving this gyaan. But here it goes anyway -

I will be turning 40 years old in December and from my experience with these things till now I suggest the following to GTO (who asked the question first) and to all other readers:

a. Do not eat packaged food or anything not made fresh. No chocolates, no protein powders, no namkeen, no chips, nothing. Be VERY careful of what goes in your mouth.

b. Eat home cooked simple vegetarian meals. Every time.

c. Include ankurit chana/daal/seeng dana (sprouts) in your diet every single day. Soaked over night. They are protein sources like none other.

d. Eat less. Eat till you are 80% full.

e. Eat twice a day with an 8hr gap in the middle. Let your stomach rest for 8 hours. It will work wonders for you.

f. Protein powder? Answer: Sattu! It is made of powdered organic chana, jau and other simple Indian protein sources. Have it in a shaker, like you would any artificial protein shake. Google it, buy it and have it with your two meals a day.

That's it, that is all the protein someone who is doing medium weight lifting needs. Our bodies do not need any more than that.

[Oxy]

Originally Posted by Gaur

I was recommended a European brand Olimp by one of my friend long time back, i used to generally get it from Germany whenever i was travelling or ask some of my friend to get it for me if i was running out of stock. I see that its available online in India also now.

https://gainsx.in/product/olimp-spor...-complex-5lbs/

Is it safe to buy from this gainsx website? I have never heard of it before.

Also, a question for people recommending The Whole Truth - I see it is priced at least twice of Amul and Avvatar. Why is there such a huge price difference?

[Gaur]

Originally Posted by Oxy

Is it safe to buy from this gainsx website? I have never heard of it before.

Hi,
no idea about the website at all, its just the brand Olimp that i wanted to talk about.