[MotoBlip]

Hate to be the one to say this, but they should focus their efforts on a totally different breed, and I don't mean to say they should be banned or anything. Banning certain breeds can create a false sense of safety, when the truth is that any dog has the potential to inflict serious bites.

[dhanushs]

Originally Posted by DIY410

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But when these animals snap, the owners are helpless.

I've had a Rottweiler for years now. We've also had GSD's and currently own a Labrador. Never has the Rottweiler snapped. Even when he was in tremendous pain and in his last breath, he has N-E-V-E-R laid his teeth on me. It's all about the love.

Infact the Lab that I own now has caused more damage than the Rott.

Here's a video of a dangerous Rottweiler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC8dbiy6x10

[vids2590]

"It's not the dogs, it’s the owner." As much as I would like to believe this, the bigger fact is that dogs are animals who have their own temperament. "All dogs deserve humans but not all humans deserve dogs"
I've had dogs on and off since I was a kid and all of them had different nature. One rule that we always followed was that only a member of our family will the dogs out for a walk or to the doctor or for a car ride etc. When you follow this simple rule you really get to know your dog and anticipate their moves. What I usually see is the drivers, maids, guards etc turns out to be the primary companion of the dogs. People bring dogs to their home and then turn them over to the people who don't really care about dogs. Most House helps don't care what the dog does in walks or when they interact with other humans or dogs. Many Owners don't really know their dogs and they are the one who gives bad rep to all dogs. I’ve seen cases of Beagles biting knees of people because the dog turned out to be untrained, unvaccinated and sick. As much as this order angers me banning a Pitbull like breed might be the only option, I’ve seen the wrath of 60kgs dog running toward you with blood in their eye. Even a small breed dog might reck havoc for a scared mailman or milk man etc.
The logical solution should be that you must need some sort of training before you buy a big strong breed but it's not possible in a country like ours. Now I really hope the government turns their focus to the menace created by street dogs.

[pepega]

When I'm cycling, I'm constantly attacked by street dogs. Why is the government not doing anything about street dogs, which roam freely? At least breed dogs are with an owner and leash most of the time.

[subraiyr]

I don't have any specific views on the ban of these 23 breeds of dogs. I feel its all in the way one trains them

My peeve is with dog owners who have big dogs that need good amount of exercise, running, chasing around etc, but keeping them in apartment complexes and walking them for a short stroll in the morning or evening for them to do their jobs.

Taking an animal out of its environment and putting it in an environment which is probably stifling for it is a sad thing

[ajitmoses]

The Stay that the Madras High Court issued probably will put an end to this Ban. The Kennel club has some serious clout.

This is a problem of the 1% so in my opinion this is not going to get too much traction. In a country that has no organised pet distribution and no resources to police and enforce this ban, it was dead on arrival.

Now whether the problem of dogs being a threat is something to be debated and in my opinion and like some others here, any dog in the wrong hand is a problem and it surely cannot be brushed off when an innocent person has to pay the price and live with the trauma of having a dog attack you.

Most of these cases happen in common roads or society where the dog has attacked someone and this is completely unacceptable. The easier way to deter owners from being callous is to have very strict punishment and fines on the owner and mandatory euthanasia of the pet if proven guilty. Have clear rules that all dogs big or small have to be muzzled when in public. In some societies in Chennai, you have to follow the regular vaccination and show the same to the association to ensure that the dog is in good health and is no risk of disease. Some of the more civilised people, pick the poop and that’s the right thing to do but India has a long way to go before these things can be enforced.

As a dog lover, I am happy this mindless blanket ban has been thrown out for now.

[GutsyGibbon]

Originally Posted by vids2590

"It's not the dogs, it’s the owner." As much as I would like to believe this, the bigger fact is that dogs are animals who have their own temperament. "All dogs deserve humans but not all humans deserve dogs"

I have been in Bengaluru for the last month. I see breeds conditioned to cold weather tied up outdors/to something in the front yard/street side. To see a breed like an English Labrador retriever panting in the outside heat is really heart wrenching. How is it that people are not able to see signs of distress? I just dont get it. We really need to raise awareness on this topic.

[DIY410]

Originally Posted by dhanushs

I've had a Rottweiler for years now. We've also had GSD's and currently own a Labrador. Never has the Rottweiler snapped. Even when he was in tremendous pain and in his last breath, he has N-E-V-E-R laid his teeth on me. It's all about the love.

Infact the Lab that I own now has caused more damage than the Rott.

Here's a video of a dangerous Rottweiler.

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=fC8dbiy6x10

Your Rottweiler is well behaved and you have a grip on your dog. Good for you.

But tell that to the victims. They will have none of it. People who lost their loved ones both humans and other dogs/cats, for no fault of their own.

Pitbull stands out and most of the other dogs in that list, look awfully like a pitbull.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

[SKC-auto]

I was reading about similar topic on X few days back. What I understood and kind of agree with from that discussion is, people with bad temper or mostly false masculinity get these dogs which look aggressive. These dogs are often not cared or loved, the dogs do have bad temper just like their owners.

It's similar to how we should be careful with people driving certain brands of car, it's not the car, it's the idiot behind the wheel.

[Gansan]

A few years ago a dog owner was mauled to death by his two Rottweiler dogs near Hosur. Whatever the circumstances may have been, that must serve as a red flag. If anyone has them at home keep that in mind. I have never heard about any other breed doing that.

Labradors are the other extreme. My nephew's two year old lab was so friendly and beautiful, it was stolen! Imagine a dog which is expected to guard the premises, itself getting stolen!

[dragonfire]

On the one hand they are are introducing African Cheetahs into the Indian forests and on the other hand they are banning dog breeds that has been around and has survived here for a long time. I sometimes fail to see the priority of these governments. If they really have to reduce dog related violence and deaths, they should do something about the dog menace on the streets. And if they really feel that they are into the business of saving lives, they should think about ways to reduce enemity between people, instead of fostering them. But then dogs don't vote do they?

[fhdowntheline]

These are just the signs of wealth being wasted by the society. The proliferation of imported breeds, through all kinds of unlicensed breeding is a major issue. The other issue is dog owners becoming dog parents. My mom's family had 5 dogs over a few decades since she was a toddler. Never ever were my grandparents dog "fathers/mothers". The dog was to be kept outside the main rooms of the house, secured in chain and let out only as required. None of the unnecessary fussing over food and drink. And yet, by instinct some of them were wonderful in behavior. My mother always gives examples of how one of the dogs, a female GSD, used to escort her to the school and back "without having being instructed". Another, named Polly who survived the longest, was a tiny but vicious dog in terms of handling errant people/wrong doers. Woe betide anyone who dared to trespass their garden ! Sadly, he was poisoned by someone when the family was on vacation.
I think we should just let pets be pets and not make them our children. With that old-school attitude, things will be alright.

[dhanushs]

Originally Posted by DIY410

.. you have a grip on your dog. Good for you.

Simple. It's just like if you cant maintain a luxury barge, dont buy it, even though it feels good to own it and cheap to buy.

But tell that to the victims. They will have none of it. ..

The victims need to be told that there are certain rules of Owning a dog.. Taking care of a dog.. Which has to be strictly followed, like any other thing we own. If not there will be consequences. Even a human child who is not brought up the right way goes rogue.. How can you expect a dog to behave? They are not programmed machines. We have to train them, behave a certain way with them, love them, Give them the right conditions to live.. If thats not possible, dont buy one.

The government, Instead of banning, need to enforce these rules.

[am1m]

Originally Posted by GutsyGibbon

To see a breed like an English Labrador retriever panting in the outside heat is really heart wrenching. How is it that people are not able to see signs of distress?

Because the majority of the owners fall into 2 main types -

One is the straight out dog breeder. They just keep the dogs to bred and sell, thanks to the demand for fancy breeds like Huskies. You'll see obvious signs of these when you see massive dogs being kenneled in the not-so-upscale parts of town.

Second is the clients. Folks like us who want a fancy breed as a status symbol, rather than a pet to love and be loved by. Much like buying a car. After the excitement (puppyhood and instagram shots) wears off, these dogs are left to the care of the hired help. Hence so many Rotties and Huskies being walked by the security guards, who don't give a damn about the dog or where it poops in the neighborhood.

[amitkumarsi]

As a parent to two dogs - one an Indie and another one, a Golden Retriever, for 3 years, I wanted to add a few points

1) Dogs are like children and need to be treated as such, not like furniture. This means that you will need to spend a lot of time and effort from day 0 on training them. The more you delay, the more exponentially the effort goes up.

2) Even the best trained dogs, will have temperament issues due to the environment and circumstances. Hence you will always need to be alert when you are in a public place with them. Close leashes, treats, relatively empty spaces etc need to be considered.

3) You would not like any stranger to come and coddle your child, would you? The same goes for your dogs. They too have their own sense of space and feel invaded when a stranger directly walks over and starts cuddling the dogs.

4) Besides nutritious food, they need a healthy dose of physical activity every day. Long walks, or a 30 min spell of hyperactivity tires out the dog for the day. A tired dog is easy to train, tame and control.

5) We need to learn about their behaviour, their health, and the signs they give. We need to be driven by as much paranoia due to changes in their behaviour, as we would be if our child shows a change in behavior.

6) Not everyone is comfortable around dogs- either due to past trauma or whatever they have learned. We need to respect that and keep space. The same goes for their side too.

7) Not all dogs are suitable for all types of weather. Dogs with thick coats like the GSD, Retrievers, St. Bernard and like are generally uncomfortable in the Indian heat. Having a Siberian Husky in any state south of Punjab honestly seems like a crime to me, given how hot the weather becomes for them. That should have been the only criterion for banning the dogs.

8) Almost all instances of aggression from or conflicts between animals and humans are man-made. Either due to poor training, shrinking spaces abandonment or other reasons. There have been so many instances of even horses and bovine animals hurting humans. We don't go out banning them, right?