[mallumowgli]

It is the basic 'subject and predicate' rule

If in doubt remove the other person from the sentence and say it again. It would sound weird if one were to say "Shall me go to the movies" or "He brought chocolates for I" !!

[Zed]

Originally Posted by hdnivara

Which one of the following is correct? I keep seeing all combinations in emails, newspapers and what-not!

1. Myself and Mr. X did so and so things.
2. Mr. X and myself did so and so things.
3. I and Mr. X did so and so things.
4. Mr. X and I did so and so things.

As pointed out in earlier posts the fourth option is the right one. 1 & 2 are perhaps the most repeated errors in T-BHP posts.

[Warwithwheels]

Often find *send* being used instead of *sent*. As in *Jimmy send the courier yesterday* instead of *Jimmy sent......* Any specific reason for the misuse?

Btw.... What would be the best way to greet a person when you meet him/her for the first time in the day, say at around 11.45 am? Good morning/ Good afternoon or just a hello??

PS: Am talking about a formal Non American setup.

[Samurai]

I have noticed that people generally don't use the words man and gentleman interchangeably. However, they use woman and lady interchangeably. Is that done consciously to attribute higher respect?

[AVR]

Originally Posted by Samurai

I have noticed that people generally don't use the words man and gentleman interchangeably. However, they use woman and lady interchangeably. Is that done consciously to attribute higher respect?

Possibilities:
1) Chivalry?
3) Man (mono-syllable) v/s Gentleman (3 syllables) as compared to Lady (2 syllables) v/s Woman (2 syllables). See more use of Gents than Gentlemen though which probably ties back to the same number of syllables?

[Samurai]

This chancellor of the University obviously thinks human value education is more important than grammar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq02OOzo1YE

[Warwithwheels]

Originally Posted by Samurai

This chancellor of the University obviously thinks human value education is more important than grammar.

I guess this video has already made into the Official Jokes Thread. And for the uninitiated, he runs one of the largest and most sought after group of Engineering colleges down south.

Read on:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...ml#post2556451

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...ml#post2557092

[mallumowgli]

Originally Posted by Samurai

I have noticed that people generally don't use the words man and gentleman interchangeably. However, they use woman and lady interchangeably. Is that done consciously to attribute higher respect?

Originally Posted by AVR

Possibilities:
1) Chivalry?
3) Man (mono-syllable) v/s Gentleman (3 syllables) as compared to Lady (2 syllables) v/s Woman (2 syllables). See more use of Gents than Gentlemen though which probably ties back to the same number of syllables?

Nothing to do with respect or chivalry, I think. Not many know that feminine of gentleman is lady

[vnabhi]

Originally Posted by Samurai

This chancellor of the University obviously thinks human value education is more important than grammar.

LOL--I can imagine the long bee-line to Satyabhama University.

Does't that guy have common sense to get his press release vetted by someone, before making it public?

[amitoj]

No one proof reads the headlines any more?



http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/19372096.cms

English is also a CASUALTY, it seems.

[anupmathur]

Originally Posted by amitoj

No one proof reads the headlines any more?
....

The post of proof readers has been abolished by all newpapers and magazines.
There is an appalling increase in the number of mistakes that are evident now.
In many ways the print media industry is strange; the senior editors and executive editors draw obscene salaries, the junior staff gets peanuts and there are no proof readers anymore.
And, of course, proof reading is too lowly a job for the highly paid seniors to do!

[Sheel]

Thought to share it on this thread. How to write good English...

[saket77]

Originally Posted by Sheel

Thought to share it on this thread. How to write good English...

Good One! Although the meaning is hidden then & there only.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Here's one I've noticed. Look over does not mean the same as overlook! (and overlook is one word, not two)

To look over something is to look at it. A look-over implies a quick look.

I gave that car a look-over, but could see that the condition was bad.

To overlook something is to miss it, fail to notice it

When I looked at the car, I overlooked the state of the back seat upholstery

Let's try this:

When I gave the car a look over, I overlooked the state of the upholstery

It can also be used in the sense of allowing something as in

I'll overlook the fact that you have been late three times this week if you make sure it doesn't happen again.

It looks like the same words, but the meaning is completely changed by reversing and joining them. Sadly, that is typical of English language

By the way: I am not sure about hyphenating look-over. I'm taking Google's word for it!

[vivekiny2k]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

Here's one I've noticed.

It can also be used in the sense of allowing something as in

I'll overlook the fact that you have been late three times this week if you make sure it doesn't happen again.

I think it's clear. I'll intentionally fail to notice that.....

And then there is oversee.