[venkyhere]

Originally Posted by saket77

The Chinese are experimenting with a similar virus which has 100% mortality rate.

Is this even required?

How else do you think bioweapons are made ? In labs. By scientists. This is purely part of CCPs 'complete world domination' charter for the future.

[NomadSK]

Every time I took the jab for Covid, I fell very very sick. Even today my running efficiency has dropped by around 70% and then I see this news, which makes me wonder, was this a sham.

AstraZeneca has admitted for the first time in court documents that its Covid-19 vaccine, sold globally under the brand names Covishield and Vaxzevria among others, may lead to a rare side-effect. According to media reports, the admission was made in a legal document submitted to the UK High Court in February

https://www.business-standard.com/he...2901262_1.html

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted by NomadSK

Every time I took the jab for Covid, I fell very very sick. Even today my running efficiency has dropped by around 70% and then I see this news, which makes me wonder, was this a sham.

I am not even sure whether I was jabbed with the British vaccine or the Indian one; it has been a while now. Personally, I was spared the serious after effects of the vaccine, both times. However, I have seen friends and family members saying the same thing as you and truth be told, I have seen them getting weaker. But in most cases, they have also been afflicted by the virus prior hand. So, to discern whether the loss of efficiency/immunity was because of the malady or the medicine is hard.

That said, at least in the west, the vaccine vendors could face some heat in the form of law suits. Which, they could get easily get out of citing the emergency nature of the times when they were released.

Specific to India, I would be shocked beyond belief if SII endorses the vaccine parent’s admissions and comes out with a compensation scheme for the end users!

[Thad E Ginathom]

My wife and I both had covid at the same time. It was not serious, but mine was a little worse and lasted a few days longer. She is convinced that she got it because she was vaccinated. There is no argument with someone who has strongly linked two things in their head.

I was a great believer in the vaccine. I'd probably take more if available. People in other countries are taking far more doses than we have here. At the same time, I wasn't blind, and the continual reduction of expectation from the vaccine was, to say the least, disappointing.

For all of us, making good bad assumptions is simply that. I believe it was good. That's all I can say: I'm not a scientist, let alone a specialist in the relevant areas.

Yes, we know. The vaccine was imperfect. But let us, from the past few years, first and foremost remember covid. Covid was the big killer.

[rajeevsulu]

Vaccination is introduction of the disease causing organism in a very mild form. Hence, the disease is mimiced in a very mild form so as to simulate antibody and resistance formation.

Symptoms of varying degrees are in evitable following vaccine administration. Long term side effects are there for the vaccine, any vaccine, the differentiating factor should be reduction or prevention of loss of life.

The vaccine did it's job. Long term side effects, we are yet in the dark.

[NomadSK]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

There is no argument with someone who has strongly linked two things in their head.

That's completely true, but when the drug licensor admits to the fiasco from their end, then its worth raising some eyebrows. I think, humans can't be treated as guniea pigs.

I was a great believer in the vaccine. I'd probably take more if available.

At the same time, I wasn't blind, and the continual reduction of expectation from the vaccine was, to say the least, disappointing.

Same here in fact I was among the first ones to take it. I had 3 jabs all of different makes (Astrazenca/Pfizer/Moderna) and each one of them made me sick to the stomach.

People in other countries are taking far more doses than we have here.

Yes, we know. The vaccine was imperfect. But let us, from the past few years, first and foremost remember covid. Covid was the big killer.

I never knew this, may be I took it in good faith, but then how can we differentiate between a well-known scientifically proven brand as AstraZeneca and Patanjali, who also claimed they had the covid drug too.

Originally Posted by rajeevsulu

The vaccine did it's job. Long term side effects, we are yet in the dark.

I never got Covid in the first place all those years, so don't know how the vaccine did its job. Mandatory travel rules made me take these jabs and I can feel the long term side effects.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Pharmacy business can be very suspect, but I do believe that the people working on the vaccines were sincere and we got the best they could do at the time. I thought that the rare thrombosis side effect was recognised long ago? It doesn't feel like anything new to me as I see it.

The covid vaccine is the only vaccine which has given me any side effect at the time. I was quite poorly for 24 hours. Previously, arm ache for five minutes, from rabies vaccine, was as bad as I ever had.

My wife has always been less healthy than me, but she was always fitter. She could do a 10km walk with no trouble. She lost that ability. Covid, vaccine, or just weeks of lockdown? I see the effect is genuine, but I cannot tell the cause.

[Fuldagap]

Originally Posted by NomadSK

Every time I took the jab for Covid, I fell very very sick. Even today my running efficiency has dropped by around 70% and then I see this news, which makes me wonder, was this a sham.



https://www.business-standard.com/he...2901262_1.html

Although it is very difficult to make people understand it, there are a lot of people i know who had heart related issues after covid vaccinations (covishield). Some passed away and some are still suffering. Most of them were absolutely healthy prior to this happening to them. I have mentioned this before too somewhere on tbhp. Owing to no scientific evidence or conclusion such correlations are brushed off naturally.

The manufacturer denied this in 2023 but accepted in 2024. What changed? Did they really not know while manufacturing it?

[whencut86]

This is a very old news and no idea why this is making news again all of a sudden. Every vaccine we take in India as babies/kids has rare side effects and we are not bothered by this at all. We have taken them earlier and we have given them to our kids as well. If you go and check studies on each of these every single one has one or more rare side effect.

[scorpian]

Originally Posted by Fuldagap

Some passed away and some are still suffering. Most of them were absolutely healthy prior to this happening to them. I have mentioned this before too somewhere on tbhp. Owing to no scientific evidence or conclusion such correlations are brushed off naturally.

I am an standing example of this. Post COVID vaccination I have developed left side enlargement of heart which wasn't there before.
I can't breathe proper. And at times I feel breathless to the point of suffocating.
In this very thread when I highlighted my experience,someone gave a shitty reply saying what about all the life's that vaccine has saved!
By forcing us all to take the vaccine because of our jobs etc I feel it was a infringement of human rights!
Had I been living in US I would have sued AstraZeneca for the damage done to my heart for no fault of mine.
Heck sometimes I feel I am just living on borrowed time everytime I feel breathless.

[Fuldagap]

Originally Posted by scorpian

Heck sometimes I feel I am just living on borrowed time everytime I feel breathless.

So sorry to hear that. Having friends in similar situation i can totally relate.
I wanted to go for a vaccination of my own choice too but it wasn't available. It was a risky and hard decision but somehow I managed to escape vaccination altogether.
The way people were being vaccinated and the questionable production was my reason.
Also there were a lot of malpractices going on in the name of vaccinations and covid. Luckily even after getting infected i survived and was living at a secluded region in the mountains.

The admittance by AstraZeneca is not old, the news is dated 28th April, 2024 at a UK court.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by scorpian

I am an standing example of this. Post COVID vaccination I have developed left side enlargement of heart which wasn't there before.

I am sorry to hear this --- and if I gave any "shitty answer" (I might have done!) at that time, then I apologise.

[rajeevsulu]

I know many physicians, friends and colleagues of mine, who take blood thinners to this day. While this is a questionable practice, I don't blame them.
The incidence of corona vascular disease, post covid( disease and vaccine) is significantly high. There is not enough data though clinically, it is all there to see.
My wife passed away due to a vascular accident which was very sudden but there is no data to correlate the two in a positive way.

[dragonfire]

Post vaccination I had symptoms that I now wonder was an indication of clot in the brain. One neurologist suggested that I may be having panic attacks while another said it could be a migraine. I went through these attacks after both the jabs spaced 3 months apart, so there definitly is a link. I now have some amount of cognitive decline but may be dismissed as effects of ageing.

Now reading the news article I think that the vaccine wreaked some havoc in my brain.

I had taken the vaccine convinced that it was for my own good, and would have taken it even if it was not made "mandatory". But I feel for the people who were not convinced yet was forced to take it because of the actions of the pro-vaccine lobby. These people who pretends to know what is good for an entire society/nation/kind are the ones to be blamed for this fiasco and not the vaccine makers.

The vaccine makers did their job right in creating these vaccines and making available in the market. The decision to take the vaccine or not should have been left to the individuals.

[Thad E Ginathom]

AstraZeneca’s submission in U.K. court nothing new, say doctors over Covishield’s potential to cause blood clots.

"doctors in India said this is not new information and that they are “well aware of the warning which has been available in India as an insert with the vaccine since the time it was introduced for general public here”."

"They added that any adverse event associated with the vaccine would have occurred within 21 days to a month of the first dose."

... The Hindu newspaper.

I thought it sounded familiar.

This is not at all to deny anything that others may have reported. It isn't about the only potential ill effect of the vaccine. Just about this particular thrombosis.