How good our Hindi music is? Discuss copies and originals here

ECM · 23rd September 2006, 10:06

I love song from Gangster Ya Ali but when I came to know that it is a ditto copy of Arabic Band Guitara(Ya Ghali) I was shocked.Just listen the original one in Arabic!
http://rapidshare.de/files/34110758/ya_ghali.zip.html

GTO · 23rd September 2006, 11:00

Until very recently, I was only an English music guy. Selective music from genres as wide as old school rock, techno, pop, under-ground, 60's etc. filled my car and room. The only Hindi music I ever listened to was either classics or ghazals.

Butttttttttttttttttttt someone in my office got me hooked on to the new age Hindi pop. And I gotta admit, I dont mind listening to it once in a while. I still dont like hindi film songs but the pop is pretty okay.

Dippy · 23rd September 2006, 12:33

ECM

Heard ya Ghali quite some time back. Though the song in gangster is "inspired" by this one I found the Hindi version more catchy and the music was better too

There are loads of Hindi songs copied from Arabic and Pakistani songs

normally_crazy · 23rd September 2006, 12:35

I'm a big time fan of Hindi Music ( Bollywood and other ). I think Hindi music absolutely rocks - the other forms of music - Rock , Pop , Hip Hop etc etc are all paani kum chai.

khanak · 23rd September 2006, 12:50

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Originally Posted by normally_crazy

I'm a big time fan of Hindi Music ( Bollywood and other ). I think Hindi music absolutely rocks - the other forms of music - Rock , Pop , Hip Hop etc etc are all paani kum chai.

you said it man!!!
hindi musics the best.

inspirations not a new thing in bollywood. even kaho nd kaho is a direct lift off tamally maak from buddha bar. the hindi version however sounds much better so i dont care.

garvit2002 · 23rd September 2006, 13:11

kudos to Mr.pritam will soon be ahead of Mr.anu mallik in the field of copy pasting music

ECM · 23rd September 2006, 13:17

Dear Garvit, Pritam has entered in that club where Mr.Bappi Lahiri is a life time president.LOL
jokes apart I too love Hindi music but sometime when u feel that the song which u love is a copy case I just feel like...............jane do yaron!

F50 · 23rd September 2006, 13:38

I somewhat like Hindi Music and yeah Himesh Rocks!!

Ok on serious note, the songs are good but they are not as popular as old/classic songs. These songs stay in everybody's mind, on tongue for few weeks then its replaced by other. They cannot become classics.
10 years down the line nobody is going to remember Ya Ali, Right Here Right Now, Tere Bin, Mitwa etc etc but we still know Yahoo! Koi mujhe junglee kahe, Awara Hoon, Khaike Paan Banaras wala etc etc.

Coming to Remix, its become a big industry. Everybody is into remix. Pick old songs add few beats, make it quick and Rakhi Sawant .... voila Remix is ready.
I have met old timers like O.P. Nayar etc they all feel sad that Aaj Kal ke Log ek apna khudka gaana nahi bana sakte.

khanak · 23rd September 2006, 13:47

the only difference between pritam nd anu malik is tht pritam actually admits that he has copied some songs

i agree some of the remixes are $#!T though there are some really good DJs like Sukteu, Aqeel, Akbar Sami nd Bally Sagoo these guys do a good job unlike the DJs who remix the songs for the Rakhee Sawant videos. these DJs are actually called DJ HOT,BABY DOLL etc...............lol

Dippy · 23rd September 2006, 13:57

Some remixes are well made but the rest are just mediocre

Bappi copied but hell I really love his songs esp the ones hes sung himself. He really rocked in the 80s disco era

even the hindi songs in the early 90s were good

amit_sound · 23rd September 2006, 13:59

I personally feel that hindi music has degraded over the year...although the production skills have improved remarkably but the real creativity has diminshed...
the likes of anu malik himesh n to some extent pritam are ruining the industyr...still once a while we do get some good numbers frm bollywood....i feel guyz from across the border are making better n orignal tunes than our own copier...err composers.....

all said n done...my all time fav is still ...."Zeher hai k pyar hai tera chumma.... !!!!"

ECM · 23rd September 2006, 15:26

Just recall one famous theme song by Doordarshan in mid 90s,mile sur mera tumhara which we used to see on almost every Sunday on DD,such music is missing nowadays atleast for me.I have it if anyone wants I can upload it.More on this song --------
Indian television viewers cannot forget some of the memorable songs that were produced by Lok Seva Sanchar Parishad (LSSP). They used to come as fillers but were laden with such a melodic content that people did not want to put the television sets off or leave for a break. LSSP recognized many pioneering achievers in various fields and presented many integrated videos wherein these people emphasized the importance of nationalistic spirit that needs to be sustained. Be it Gavaskar holding the torch high and drenching in a drizzle, or Kamalhassan videographed as if paying undeterred attention to the vocal gimmicks of Balamurali Krishna, or a bubbly Kapildev runnning with his head held in national and sporting pride, or a stunning string orchestra paced beautifully with the icons running in slow motion or a even a laIndian television viewers cannot forget some of the memorable songs that were produced by Lok Seva Sanchar Parishad (LSSP). They used to come as fillers but were laden with such a melodic content that people did not want to put the television sets off or leave for a break. LSSP recognized many pioneering achievers in various fields and presented many integrated videos wherein these people emphasized the importance of nationalistic spirit that needs to be sustained. Be it Gavaskar holding the torch high and drenching in a drizzle, or Kamalhassan videographed as if paying undeterred attention to the vocal gimmicks of Balamurali Krishna, or a bubbly Kapildev runnning with his head held in national and sporting pride, or a stunning string orchestra paced beautifully with the icons running in slow motion or a even a layman sitting on the elephants to sing about kerala or day to day people getting off the Metro Railway in the Calcutta stations - the imagery they captured was vivid, spellbinding and pretty much completely representative of India. The curent world of Cable TV is a little too busy to stop and look at the beautiful work that Doordarshan (DD) had produced ( ofcoure, they produced many stupid programmes too). Hardly nationalistic themes come in as "fillers" due to the rampage of the private sector to advertise the products.
yman sitting on the elephants to sing about kerala or day to day people getting off the Metro Railway in the Calcutta stations - the imagery they captured was vivid, spellbinding and pretty much completely representative of India. The curent world of Cable TV is a little too busy to stop and look at the beautiful work that Doordarshan (DD) had produced ( ofcoure, they produced many stupid programmes too). Hardly nationalistic themes come in as "fillers" due to the rampage of the private sector to advertise the products.

rsjaurr · 23rd September 2006, 18:23

very true ECM and congrates to u for ur excellent words.
I think most of us r missing those short melodic fillers.Or probably we have stopped watching DD,they might still be showing it.

I never missed that song whenever it came on tv and i could feel somthing different in my body.It had a very strong message in it but in very soft,melodic & musical form.

well....talking of music,certainly it has degraded to very low.Infcat most of the "art & culture" things have deteriorated,probably coz of era of new technology.Now they have to do it for the market instead of doing it for themselves and thier lovers.

I agree with dippy that though bappi's music was 'copied' yet most of his music was liked by many.

ECM · 23rd September 2006, 18:57

Dear RSJaurr thx for appreciation, Listen Mile sur mera Tumhara threw this link,it will open your windown media player and if you have a firewall just grant a temporary excess to it.
Here I go>>http://www.dhool.com/cgi-bin/stream....otd/milesur.rm

PS:-If some of you cannot able to listen it due to unicode player's absence in your p.c then just tell me to upload it,cheers.

devarshi84 · 23rd September 2006, 21:24

while various music directors are copycats these days, there are still various good music directors. I love Hindi songs too and I listen to English songs too, Shania, EMinem, Tiesto being my favouraites.

A.R Rehman, Ismail Darbar, Shannkar/Ehsaan/Loy are some of those that actually nurture good music.Bappi Lahiri used to give good music years ago. Suddenly he rean out of originals and we sawthe result. Even Biddu has had some great hits. His music has a retro taste to it. But he hasnt been able to create a huge impact.

Himesh Reshamiya, Anu Malik, Pritam, etc are nothin but Hamsters who occassionally get a good exclusive hit.

The best music I still find is the music of 70's and 80's.

Boss Kaun hai, maaalum hai kya?

23rd September 2006, 10:06	#1
ECM BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somewhere Posts: 226 Thanked: 16 Times	How good our Hindi music is? Discuss copies and originals here I love song from Gangster Ya Ali but when I came to know that it is a ditto copy of Arabic Band Guitara(Ya Ghali) I was shocked.Just listen the original one in Arabic! http://rapidshare.de/files/34110758/ya_ghali.zip.html Last edited by ECM : 23rd September 2006 at 10:07.
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23rd September 2006, 11:00	#2
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 72,664 Thanked: 317,829 Times View My Garage	Until very recently, I was only an English music guy. Selective music from genres as wide as old school rock, techno, pop, under-ground, 60's etc. filled my car and room. The only Hindi music I ever listened to was either classics or ghazals. Butttttttttttttttttttt someone in my office got me hooked on to the new age Hindi pop. And I gotta admit, I dont mind listening to it once in a while. I still dont like hindi film songs but the pop is pretty okay.
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23rd September 2006, 12:33	#3
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,648 Thanked: 3,186 Times	ECM Heard ya Ghali quite some time back. Though the song in gangster is "inspired" by this one I found the Hindi version more catchy and the music was better too There are loads of Hindi songs copied from Arabic and Pakistani songs
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23rd September 2006, 12:35	#4
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 541 Times View My Garage	I'm a big time fan of Hindi Music ( Bollywood and other ). I think Hindi music absolutely rocks - the other forms of music - Rock , Pop , Hip Hop etc etc are all paani kum chai.
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23rd September 2006, 13:11	#6
garvit2002 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Jaipur Posts: 241 Thanked: 2 Times	kudos to Mr.pritam will soon be ahead of Mr.anu mallik in the field of copy pasting music
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23rd September 2006, 13:17	#7
ECM BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somewhere Posts: 226 Thanked: 16 Times	Dear Garvit, Pritam has entered in that club where Mr.Bappi Lahiri is a life time president.LOL jokes apart I too love Hindi music but sometime when u feel that the song which u love is a copy case I just feel like...............jane do yaron!
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23rd September 2006, 13:38	#8
F50 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai/USA Posts: 1,709 Thanked: 103 Times	I somewhat like Hindi Music and yeah Himesh Rocks!! Ok on serious note, the songs are good but they are not as popular as old/classic songs. These songs stay in everybody's mind, on tongue for few weeks then its replaced by other. They cannot become classics. 10 years down the line nobody is going to remember Ya Ali, Right Here Right Now, Tere Bin, Mitwa etc etc but we still know Yahoo! Koi mujhe junglee kahe, Awara Hoon, Khaike Paan Banaras wala etc etc. Coming to Remix, its become a big industry. Everybody is into remix. Pick old songs add few beats, make it quick and Rakhi Sawant .... voila Remix is ready. I have met old timers like O.P. Nayar etc they all feel sad that Aaj Kal ke Log ek apna khudka gaana nahi bana sakte.
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23rd September 2006, 13:47	#9
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,831 Thanked: 341 Times View My Garage	the only difference between pritam nd anu malik is tht pritam actually admits that he has copied some songs i agree some of the remixes are $#!T though there are some really good DJs like Sukteu, Aqeel, Akbar Sami nd Bally Sagoo these guys do a good job unlike the DJs who remix the songs for the Rakhee Sawant videos. these DJs are actually called DJ HOT,BABY DOLL etc...............lol Last edited by khanak : 23rd September 2006 at 13:49.
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23rd September 2006, 13:57	#10
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,648 Thanked: 3,186 Times	Some remixes are well made but the rest are just mediocre Bappi copied but hell I really love his songs esp the ones hes sung himself. He really rocked in the 80s disco era even the hindi songs in the early 90s were good
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23rd September 2006, 13:59	#11
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 596 Thanked: 11 Times	I personally feel that hindi music has degraded over the year...although the production skills have improved remarkably but the real creativity has diminshed... the likes of anu malik himesh n to some extent pritam are ruining the industyr...still once a while we do get some good numbers frm bollywood....i feel guyz from across the border are making better n orignal tunes than our own copier...err composers..... all said n done...my all time fav is still ...."Zeher hai k pyar hai tera chumma.... !!!!"
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23rd September 2006, 15:26	#12
ECM BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somewhere Posts: 226 Thanked: 16 Times	Just recall one famous theme song by Doordarshan in mid 90s,mile sur mera tumhara which we used to see on almost every Sunday on DD,such music is missing nowadays atleast for me.I have it if anyone wants I can upload it.More on this song -------- Indian television viewers cannot forget some of the memorable songs that were produced by Lok Seva Sanchar Parishad (LSSP). They used to come as fillers but were laden with such a melodic content that people did not want to put the television sets off or leave for a break. LSSP recognized many pioneering achievers in various fields and presented many integrated videos wherein these people emphasized the importance of nationalistic spirit that needs to be sustained. Be it Gavaskar holding the torch high and drenching in a drizzle, or Kamalhassan videographed as if paying undeterred attention to the vocal gimmicks of Balamurali Krishna, or a bubbly Kapildev runnning with his head held in national and sporting pride, or a stunning string orchestra paced beautifully with the icons running in slow motion or a even a laIndian television viewers cannot forget some of the memorable songs that were produced by Lok Seva Sanchar Parishad (LSSP). They used to come as fillers but were laden with such a melodic content that people did not want to put the television sets off or leave for a break. LSSP recognized many pioneering achievers in various fields and presented many integrated videos wherein these people emphasized the importance of nationalistic spirit that needs to be sustained. Be it Gavaskar holding the torch high and drenching in a drizzle, or Kamalhassan videographed as if paying undeterred attention to the vocal gimmicks of Balamurali Krishna, or a bubbly Kapildev runnning with his head held in national and sporting pride, or a stunning string orchestra paced beautifully with the icons running in slow motion or a even a layman sitting on the elephants to sing about kerala or day to day people getting off the Metro Railway in the Calcutta stations - the imagery they captured was vivid, spellbinding and pretty much completely representative of India. The curent world of Cable TV is a little too busy to stop and look at the beautiful work that Doordarshan (DD) had produced ( ofcoure, they produced many stupid programmes too). Hardly nationalistic themes come in as "fillers" due to the rampage of the private sector to advertise the products. yman sitting on the elephants to sing about kerala or day to day people getting off the Metro Railway in the Calcutta stations - the imagery they captured was vivid, spellbinding and pretty much completely representative of India. The curent world of Cable TV is a little too busy to stop and look at the beautiful work that Doordarshan (DD) had produced ( ofcoure, they produced many stupid programmes too). Hardly nationalistic themes come in as "fillers" due to the rampage of the private sector to advertise the products. Last edited by ECM : 23rd September 2006 at 15:34.
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23rd September 2006, 18:23	#13
rsjaurr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Batala Posts: 777 Thanked: 28 Times	very true ECM and congrates to u for ur excellent words. I think most of us r missing those short melodic fillers.Or probably we have stopped watching DD,they might still be showing it. I never missed that song whenever it came on tv and i could feel somthing different in my body.It had a very strong message in it but in very soft,melodic & musical form. well....talking of music,certainly it has degraded to very low.Infcat most of the "art & culture" things have deteriorated,probably coz of era of new technology.Now they have to do it for the market instead of doing it for themselves and thier lovers. I agree with dippy that though bappi's music was 'copied' yet most of his music was liked by many. Last edited by rsjaurr : 23rd September 2006 at 18:24.
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23rd September 2006, 18:57	#14
ECM BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Somewhere Posts: 226 Thanked: 16 Times	Dear RSJaurr thx for appreciation, Listen Mile sur mera Tumhara threw this link,it will open your windown media player and if you have a firewall just grant a temporary excess to it. Here I go>>http://www.dhool.com/cgi-bin/stream....otd/milesur.rm PS:-If some of you cannot able to listen it due to unicode player's absence in your p.c then just tell me to upload it,cheers. Last edited by ECM : 23rd September 2006 at 18:59.
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23rd September 2006, 21:24	#15
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	while various music directors are copycats these days, there are still various good music directors. I love Hindi songs too and I listen to English songs too, Shania, EMinem, Tiesto being my favouraites. A.R Rehman, Ismail Darbar, Shannkar/Ehsaan/Loy are some of those that actually nurture good music.Bappi Lahiri used to give good music years ago. Suddenly he rean out of originals and we sawthe result. Even Biddu has had some great hits. His music has a retro taste to it. But he hasnt been able to create a huge impact. Himesh Reshamiya, Anu Malik, Pritam, etc are nothin but Hamsters who occassionally get a good exclusive hit. The best music I still find is the music of 70's and 80's. Boss Kaun hai, maaalum hai kya?
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