Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 (MH370) goes missing

NetfreakBombay · 11th March 2014, 17:13

An article with useful information such as:

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The 777-200 flown by Malaysian Air is out of production.

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Some 777s are programmed to automatically radio data about the engines and other equipment during flight. Those telemetry broadcasts include a plane’s location and that information was used to help find the Air France Airbus Group NV A330 that crashed in the Atlantic Ocean in 2009. Officials from Malaysian Air and Boeing haven’t said whether the plane had such equipment.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...-to-study.html

download2live · 11th March 2014, 19:09

Since long the Malaysian spokesperson were saying that the flight might have changed the course. And now the news comes that indeed had.
Something is fishy.

B747 · 11th March 2014, 20:31

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Originally Posted by tharian

I was reading that the Air France flight that went missing was traced after 2 full years!

It is not correct, they located the debris in few days, it took 2yrs to locate the black box. Air France 447 accident was mainly because of pilot errors and bad weather .
Complete details can be found here. http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...ce-447-6611877

tharian · 11th March 2014, 20:42

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Originally Posted by B747

It is not correct, they located the debris in few days, it took 2yrs to locate the black box. Air France 447 accident was mainly because of pilot errors and bad weather .
Complete details can be found here. http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...ce-447-6611877

Yes, i was corrected. Please read the earlier posts.

Jeroen · 11th March 2014, 20:59

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Originally Posted by download2live

Since long the Malaysian spokesperson were saying that the flight might have changed the course. And now the news comes that indeed had.
Something is fishy.

Why is something "fishy"?

Jeroen

DudeWithaFiat · 11th March 2014, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Jeroen

Why is something "fishy"?

Jeroen

May be because the pilot/pilots did not let the guys at ATC know why the plane changed its direction. They obviously had 'time' to let the guys at the ground know why they were changing the route.

Jeroen · 11th March 2014, 22:01

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Originally Posted by DudeWithaFiat

May be because the pilot/pilots did not let the guys at ATC know why the plane changed its direction. They obviously had 'time' to let the guys at the ground know why they were changing the route.

No, that is pure speculation. I can come up with at least ten perfectly valid reasons, backed by examples from the recent past, why they would not or could not have notified ATC.

Very few facts are known, but we know one thing: Their transponder stopped transmitting which indicates something very serious was amiss. Whether that was due to a hijack, or some very serious system malfunctions or other remains to be seen.

Just because we dont understand and or can comprehend what happened doesnt mean it is fishy!

Jeroen

RSR · 11th March 2014, 22:05

Things are looking very grim, if the report from some villagers turns out to be linked to MH370:

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-co...plane-1.507926

I can't imagine what the families must be going through.

The Malaysians also seem to be slow in sharing information, either deliberately or because they want to be absolutely sure before making something public. I hope they have nothing to hide.

watfor · 11th March 2014, 22:08

Question for the experts here: Even if the transponders were off, the primary radars should have picked up this aircraft, no? Considering this is an area close to a lot of land borders, it's hard to believe that the military radars have no clue of where the aircraft went.

Subsequent searches for the aircraft have been way off, from what it looks like now.

Jeroen · 11th March 2014, 22:42

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Originally Posted by watfor

Question for the experts here: Even if the transponders were off, the primary radars should have picked up this aircraft, no? Considering this is an area close to a lot of land borders, it's hard to believe that the military radars have no clue of where the aircraft went.

Subsequent searches for the aircraft have been way off, from what it looks like now.

Which, who's primary radar? Have you looked at a map for primary radar coverage in the various search areas?

999 · 11th March 2014, 23:31

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Originally Posted by watfor

Question for the experts here: Even if the transponders were off, the primary radars should have picked up this aircraft, no? Considering this is an area close to a lot of land borders, it's hard to believe that the military radars have no clue of where the aircraft went.

Subsequent searches for the aircraft have been way off, from what it looks like now.

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Originally Posted by Jeroen

Which, who's primary radar? Have you looked at a map for primary radar coverage in the various search areas?

Military Jeroen? Radars from Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia etc? read this article from reuters. Malacca straits is pretty well covered by different countries.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/0...A2900B20140311
"Malaysia's Berita Harian newspaper quoted air force chief Rodzali Daud as saying the plane was last detected at 2.40 a.m. by military radar near the island of Pulau Perak at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca. It was flying about 1,000 metres lower than its previous altitude, he was quoted as saying."

Vid6639 · 11th March 2014, 23:44

Looks pretty confirmed that the plane took a U-turn and flew towards Straits of Malacca.

watfor · 12th March 2014, 00:25

Yes, I was referring to the military radars. I am unsure about how the primary radars work but if the plane was flying at the same altitude (more or less), it should have been picked up by military aircraft.Ff they failed to identify themselves (considering that the transponders were off), could have lead to a more serious situation. But then all of this probably never happened and this is probably just pure speculation.

swiftdiesel · 12th March 2014, 01:04

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Originally Posted by Jeroen

Nobody has a clue yet. Remember a few years ago the AirFrance plane that chrashed into the ocean. The authorities knew much more about that plane and it still took them 5 days to find the spot where it went into the ocean.

There are lots of rumours and so flying; I keep tab on this one, as at least most of the members are pilots and or affiliated with the aviation industry:\

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...tact-lost.html

Jeroen

Thanks so much Jeroen for this link! This is exactly the kind of stuff I was looking for with regards to the missing airplane. Some very valuable insights and discussions going on there that are pretty informative. Thanks again!

Foxbat · 12th March 2014, 01:08

I am still hoping for a miracle, maybe they crashed on a deserted island like in TV series Lost:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_(TV_series)

11th March 2014, 19:09	#32
download2live Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: - Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 1,225 Times	Re: Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 (MH370) goes missing Since long the Malaysian spokesperson were saying that the flight might have changed the course. And now the news comes that indeed had. Something is fishy.
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11th March 2014, 22:05	#38
RSR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,803 Thanked: 6,582 Times	Re: Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 (MH370) goes missing Things are looking very grim, if the report from some villagers turns out to be linked to MH370: http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-co...plane-1.507926 I can't imagine what the families must be going through. The Malaysians also seem to be slow in sharing information, either deliberately or because they want to be absolutely sure before making something public. I hope they have nothing to hide. Last edited by RSR : 11th March 2014 at 22:08.
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11th March 2014, 22:08	#39
watfor BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 48 Thanked: 14 Times	Re: Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 (MH370) goes missing Question for the experts here: Even if the transponders were off, the primary radars should have picked up this aircraft, no? Considering this is an area close to a lot of land borders, it's hard to believe that the military radars have no clue of where the aircraft went. Subsequent searches for the aircraft have been way off, from what it looks like now.
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11th March 2014, 23:44	#42
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,776 Thanked: 43,976 Times View My Garage	Re: Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 (MH370) goes missing Looks pretty confirmed that the plane took a U-turn and flew towards Straits of Malacca.
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12th March 2014, 00:25	#43
watfor BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 48 Thanked: 14 Times	Re: Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 (MH370) goes missing Yes, I was referring to the military radars. I am unsure about how the primary radars work but if the plane was flying at the same altitude (more or less), it should have been picked up by military aircraft.Ff they failed to identify themselves (considering that the transponders were off), could have lead to a more serious situation. But then all of this probably never happened and this is probably just pure speculation.
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12th March 2014, 01:08	#45
Foxbat BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: NYC / Lucknow Posts: 673 Thanked: 3,926 Times	Re: Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 (MH370) goes missing I am still hoping for a miracle, maybe they crashed on a deserted island like in TV series Lost: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_(TV_series)
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