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Originally Posted by pramodkumar I disagree with you, what does supplementation have to do with the amount to time you have spent in the gym? what you gave is pure bro science. Workout only constitutes 30% of the muscle building process rest 70% is the diet and rest. I hear this a lot that you have to spend at least 1 year in gym without any supplementation, which does not have any scientific basis. Supplementation is the best way to control macros, and your diet cannot provide you the requisites without pushing unwanted macros into your body. If you ask me, you can start to supplement the day you feel you are serious about your goals and one mostly needs only 3 supplements, whether amateur or Pro. Rest all are good to have.
Pramod |
I was very physically active since childhood days, started gym when I was 17 and I'm on my 15th year in my gym now and I'm pretty consistent. I was around 60kg when I started and right now weigh around 100kg and stand at 6'2". Not a pinch of supplement so far. And I can do some serious weights and can still increase my weight if I want to. I used to deep squat 225kg till a couple of years back.
Also, my sister is a Doctorate in nutrition and was a very popular nutritionist in Chennai. So I know what I'm talking about. Please read my posts in this thread, I've made a few lengthy ones already(few require corrections based on my learning).
There is a trend going on in many health forums terming most things as bro-science. Easy to do that since there are hardly any scientific facts on health and human body as there are innumerable factors(that impacts) such as genetics, diet practices, individual metabolism, etc that varies across races.
When asked for suggestions, I always maintain:
1. You are your best tutor.
2. Only you know how your body is reacting and responding.
3. No two bodies are the same. Even your body is not the same everyday. It is ageing everyday.
4. There is no one size-fit-all workout regimes and diet regimes.
5. In most cases, the best person to give advice is the one who has already achieved the target you are aiming for.
I'm a proponent of not just physical well being but also mental well being. Highly strenuous workouts can cause severe mood swings due to electrolytes drain and other factors, but nobody talks about it. Is that what you want? Nobody talks about the impact it has on the rest of your day and how you react with people.
I always just give a direction, it is you who have to decide what is best for you.
And regards to supplement, I suggest resort to it only after a genuine attempt at natural bodybuilding. Reasons -
1. It doesn't make you look at health and well-being as a long term practice. Good quality supplements are expensive and could be unsustainable for many. And over a period, the cost can even become a de-motivator for hitting the gym.
2. Off supplements and off goes all the muscles.
3. Nobody knows what exactly goes into it, not even in the good ones. Do not fall for FDA approved and the likes. What are the tests they do and what is the sample size, the age, race, etc., what is the long term impact, of the people involved
3. To me, it's like a psychological short cut and it can really play with your consistency in gym. As I told you, I suggest health and well-being on long term basis and not on instant gratification.
If you are resorting to supplements, I would suggest have a re-look at what exactly you want and have a long term plan for health and fitness that is sustainable and enjoyable.