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Old 9th June 2015, 12:04   #3931
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Ok, I think I vaguely get what you are trying to put across
Well the idea is that intensity may be important, but duration is more important for size.

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Well the idea is that intensity may be important, but duration is more important for size.
Can you explain why or more importantly, how?

And you did not answer my other question
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how do I know whether by nature I am skinny or bulky??
PS : I saw your post before you edited and was

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Can you explain why or more importantly, how?
But we don't want fine69 to abandon the cliched path!
Perhaps he may read what I write and decide to stray?

Regarding the point about skinny or bulky - I would classify people as (fat vs skinny) and (muscular vs non muscular).
Whether someone is fat or skinny is seen easily by eyes (especially waist)!
If a person diets like hell, and still doesn't have visible results to show - he is naturally fat.

Whether someone is muscular or not is also seen easily by eyes (especially after training for 6-12 months) ...
If a person trains like hell, and still doesn't have significant visible results to show - he is naturally non muscular.

Bulky is a misleading term. People love to believe they are "bulking up" when in reality they are only getting fat. They perhaps try to emulate their weightlifter/powerlifter/bodybuilder gurus, but they forget the daily/weekly dose of syringes and pills that goes in along with an actual "bulking" phase.
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Old 9th June 2015, 19:22   #3934
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Has anyone tried logging their workouts in the BodySpace app from bodybuilding.com? I started the Blood and Guts Intensity program last week and logged my workouts for the first time ever and at the end of one week, it sent me a nice summary of muscles worked, weights lifted and what was great and what was not. That was a nice surprise for me
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But we don't want fine69 to abandon the cliched path!
Perhaps he may read what I write and decide to stray?
I can be the guinea pig if its something interesting!

For now, I'm not really following any rule. I'm doing 3 sets (8-10 reps) of some of the hard exercises and upto 7-8 sets (10-15 reps) of the not so hard exercises.

Once I start feeling the burn a little I stop, else I take rest from 30 seconds to a minute and start another set again.

One question, how does this muscle formation work really. I mean do I have to eat like a pig or can I continue with my normal diet and will still be doing justice to the weight training part?

Current routine that I'm following 6 days a week (kind of) -
Swimming - 1hr daily
Weight training using dumbbells only - 40-45 mins daily (Mon - Chest/Triceps, Tue - Back/Biceps, Wed - Legs/Shoulders....repeat)

Current diet -
Breakfast - 1 big sandwich - 2 brown bread slices (basically less of maida than the others, we all know how brown these slices really are), 5-6 chicken salamis or grilled chicken patty, onion, tomato, some dressing or ketchup and 2 boiled eggs.
Lunch - ~100 gm chicken or 2 boiled eggs with rice & dal (rice & dal is cafeteria food), salad & curd
Evening - Fruits or Nuts
Dinner - 2-3 roti with whatever's cooked at home (roti with ghee )
About 300-400ml of milk just before I sleep

I overdid my workout last Friday and got fever. Fever subsided by Sunday but I took rest on Mon/Tue also. Problem with me is that I don't know when to stop and end up injuring myself (e.g. meniscus tear in both knees, shoulder tear which doctors have not been able to locate but it pains like hell and some fluid in ankle which also requires surgery).
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Has anyone tried logging their workouts in the BodySpace app from bodybuilding.com? I started the Blood and Guts Intensity program last week and logged my workouts for the first time ever and at the end of one week, it sent me a nice summary of muscles worked, weights lifted and what was great and what was not. That was a nice surprise for me
It is great if you continue to do it religiously. Keeping track of your fitness regime is absolutely vital, because that is the only way to measure progress! Plus keeps you motivated as well, if you lack that. So please continue with it and you won't regret!
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Quick question - Can I do all of (except preacher) using this bench?
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@fine69: skip the leg extensions too if you can. it's got too many risks.
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@fine69: skip the leg extensions too if you can. it's got too many risks.
Could you elaborate please
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Just curious... how are these various bench presses better than push-ups and pull-ups?
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Just curious... how are these various bench presses better than push-ups and pull-ups?
1. You can bench press more than your push up weight. Not everyone has a spare little human lying around to sit on your back while you do pushups.
2. Same thing for pull ups. Although i dont think this one in particular does anything specific for your back or shoulders.
3. But with this one, you can work your legs too!
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Quick question - Can I do all of this (except preacher) using this bench?
The bench shown in the video is different from the one in the site. In any case go to any one of the twin Ghulati stores in Karol Bagh and take the one locally built. Buy the one which has apart from other things two handles for chest dips. These you can use to support rod for squats.

And yes you can even do even preacher curl using this bench. Just keep the slab at its most incline point, go behind the bench and do preacher curls.

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@fine69: skip the leg extensions too if you can. it's got too many risks.
Can you please explain?

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Just curious... how are these various bench presses better than push-ups and pull-ups?
You can increase or decrease weights according to your plan, your mood, your whims and fancies... Different protocols lead to different goals.

As far as pull ups are concerned the closest variation in weight training is barbell/dumbbell rows. For strict pull ups you can take a weight belt.
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1. You can bench press more than your push up weight. Not everyone has a spare little human lying around to sit on your back while you do pushups.
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You can increase or decrease weights according to your plan, your mood, your whims and fancies... Different protocols lead to different goals.
There are so many ways to increase or decrease resistance while doing pushups. It also greatly reduces the chances for injury, which is very important as you get old.

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2. Same thing for pull ups. Although i dont think this one in particular does anything specific for your back or shoulders.
Pullup does nothing to back and shoulders? My own experience says otherwise. But don't take my word.

http://www.muscleandfitness.com/work...ck-development

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As far as pull ups are concerned the closest variation in weight training is barbell/dumbbell rows. For strict pull ups you can take a weight belt.
No, not even close. Do some pullups and you will know it.
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There are so many ways to increase or decrease resistance while doing pushups. It also greatly reduces the chances for injury, which is very important as you get old.
I have been weight training for quite some time and I haven't had any injury. And I know quite a few people who have had serious injury doing body weight routines. Injury depends on lots of things and it is not the protocol that is to blame.


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No, not even close. Do some pullups and you will know it.
They both target the same area of muscles. Yes, I do pull ups (not chin ups) in strict form. And rowing has helped me improve my pull ups. At least that's what I think!
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I have been weight training for quite some time and I haven't had any injury.
No injuries? That is very surprising. How long have you been working out?

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They both target the same area of muscles. Yes, I do pull ups (not chin ups) in strict form. And rowing has helped me improve my pull ups. At least that's what I think!
What is your weight?
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