[gsratta]

I have voted for dzire diesel, over amaze, as i find the looks of amaze not appealing at all, i find the interior, particularly the dash, of even alto, more aesthetic than the amaze, such pathetic is the dashboard in amaze, it is my personal opinion. The reliability of the dzire has been tried and tested, I drove the older model swift vdi, 2,25000 km and no major parts were replaced, other than routine service, and front shock absorber bush replacement, not even the clutch plate, though most of my driving has been on highways. Now I have the new dzire for the past one year, a lot improved over the previous model, looks, ride, nvh, interiors are miles ahead of the amaze, (took a test drive), I do not like the so called auto majors-e-g- Toyota(etios), Honda(amaze) providing such poor designs in their low cost cars. My vote goes to dzire diesel. I dont think amaze will be able to dethrone dzire in sales charts, We will see it in the coming months.

[aniketi]

Are there production constrains for Honda already? Why they are not prepared themselves for this? Reason i am saying this is, some where i heard that Amaze has crossed 10000 bookings, good for them. But its not very big number. My brother went to check for it yesterday. He found car good but delivery time is too steep. For Petrol they are saying 3 months & for Diesel its 4+ months. If they have received booking of 10 K then it should be cleared within 1 month. Looks like they are not able to produce large number of cars for now at least. That's very bad for them & customers. This way they will loose so many customers to Dzire or other cars as not all like to wait for their cars. If Honda wants to win the race to No 1 title, i think they need to make sure that they produce 15-20 K cars per month. Else they will loose battle & Maruti will be laughing at it. Lets see what Honda has in store for us

[girishglg]

On the production front last heard Honda has a capacity of around 10000 vehicles overall for all its models. In this nearly half would be dedicated for the Amaze.

This means they can churn out 5000 ever month of Amaze alone. Now considering that booking has crossed over 10000, as per last month's sales figures they had shipped over 2500 cars to their dealers pre launch.

Even if they had around 10000 cars pre produced to meet the initial demand, the wait time should be anywhere around a month or two or the booking have crossed over 25000 else 3-4 months wait time is not possible.

So either or a combination of these scenarios are true -

1. They do not 5000 capacity for Amaze
2. They have not produced around 10000 units pre launch
3. The booking has cross over 20000 at least
4. The dealer is quoting absurd wait time may be for his own gains

Not sure which one is the situation in reality but if this situation persists then they will lose a lot of clientile especially when Maruti is sitting on the other side of the fence with a whopping 20000 monthly production capacity and ready delivery Dzires and may be some goodies in offer as well.

[CoolBlueBiker]

The hatchback version of Honda Amaze, the Honda Brio is having kerb weight of just 20 kilos less than Amaze, does this mean they have compromised on the build quality of Honda Amaze? How can sedan version of Brio be just 20 kilo's more?

[Baddychat]

Voted for the Diesel MT and the Petrol AT.

Yes I know that the MJD is India's national engine and is great to drive but diesel engine technology has improved.

If I were to buy the Amaze with the diesel motor it would primarily be used as the urban workhorse. This engine from Honda provides good urban drivability, should be cheap to run and maintain. That essentially ticks all the boxes for a good city car.

Coming to the other option I voted for, the Petrol AT makes a lot of sense especially the S(O) AT variant which is priced at 6.6 L approximately. In the compact sedan segment this should be the best auto tranny by a mile.

Also from girish's post #63 on this thread, I agree that Honda does not have the production capacity yet to match Maruti and they probably never will be able to clock the 20k figures with the Amaze simply because of Maruti's reach through their extensive dealer network. All Honda can expect is to cause a dent to Dzire's sales in urban areas primarily and to a lesser extent in Tier-I and II cities. I had inquired about the waiting periods for the Amaze and they quoted 2 months for the Petrol and 3 for the Diesel which is still half of what the Dzire was commanding when it was launched in its current avatar.

[Arch-Angel]

Would go to the dzire if i made a decision by my mind. Dont know how well the diesel motor performs in the long run. the petrol AT box looks great though.

[Optimus7]

I voted the last option. I don't like the exterior of the dzire and the interior of the Amaze. I personally don't like the concept of sub 4 meter sedans. Even most of the premium hatches are at the border of the 4 meter length.

[niladri83]

Voted for the Amaze Diesel MT. After seeing the specs and reading the TBHP review I am simply amazed. This again reiterates that HONDA has enviable engines in each of the segments below ~25 lacs. (Skoda-VW comes close in that department as well.)

Originally Posted by Baddychat

Honda does not have the production capacity yet to match Maruti and they probably never will be able to clock the 20k figures with the Amaze simply because of Maruti's reach through their extensive dealer network. All Honda can expect is to cause a dent to Dzire's sales in urban areas primarily and to a lesser extent in Tier-I and II cities.

I totally agree with you that if Honda extends it dealership network Amaze has the potential to kill DZire, for now I think it will have to settle for second place in terms of monthly sales.

[fireblade007]

The only question about Amaze is how reliable the engine is. Till now they produced only petrol engines in India.From what I have heard this engine is a new block from Honda. If it can handle the poor fuel quality of India for atleast about 1.5 lakh kms then Amaze would be a better choice than the Dezire. Hope they will improve the NVH levels and interiors within one year. The poor looking interiors are a real let down. Honda has a more premium brand image than suzuki in India. They shouldn't have disappointed their potential customers with the interiors.

[volkman10]

Maruti Dzire Has Sold 5.3 Lakh Units; Sitting on 40,000 Bookings!
Competition has squared up from all sides with new launches in this segment and despite all that Dzire continues to defy all logics!

http://motorbash.com/maruti-dzire-ha...0000-bookings/

[CPJ]

Voted for Honda Amaze Diesel MT. I think Honda have come up with a product that would satisfy most of the needs of Indian buyers be it the well proportionate looks, roomy interiors and not to forget the diesel motors fuel economy of 25.8 kpl. The only things that needs to be seen is the long term reliability of the diesel motor.

[ag408]

I had a TD of the Amaze and it checked all boxes for me, especially when compared to the Dzire. The interiors are spacious - 3 adults can comfortably be seated in the back, the drive is comfortable and the Diesel engine performs very well indeed. To add to this, there is enough boot space to tuck in your luggage on long drives - a point that the Dzire scores very badly on. An added point was that wifey was very impressed with the styling lines on the Amaze - the Amaze looks a complete car indeed.

What doesn't go for the Amaze is the spartan dashboard looks and the cost cutting that is evident in so many places. If only they could have avoided such glaring mistakes like exposing the wires inside the boot lid!

If you are a first time Sedan user and are looking at a budgeted buy, the Amaze is a natural choice, IMO. For the enthusiasts though, there are options galore!

[humyum]

I took a Test drive of the Amaze Diesel some days back and here are my observations

1) The NVH is high, the constant srrrrrrrrrrr sound from the exhaust beneath and the engine noise were a put off and this is coming from an owner of a 2008, 74 thousand run Swift Diesel owner, so you can imagine. I find my Swift quiter and more peppier, the 100PS must be on diet.

2) The handling can be best termed as Okay, the steering after 100 was not that confidence inspiring. In my car I have to check the speedo to know its 100.

3) Interiors were bland, cost cutting visible all over

4) The engine is not rev friendly, 3000 rpm and I ll tell you 'Shift bro', I can happily rev away the swift to 3500 to 3700 rpm when I am in an enthusiastic mood.

5) Top speed limited to 140 ? WHAT ? Honda have lost the plot, like seriously. When on an empty highway, I don't want no electronic Gizmo telling me to take it easy, 100 PS and 140 top speed sheesh, Be ready for K series Altos and Wagon R's asking you to move over on an empty highway.

6) 14 inch alloys look small for the wheel arch, does not work in the looks department, neither do the big tail lights, the front looks cute though.

Drove a 2013 Swift Dzire a day back and WOW, A simple test drive of both back to back is enough to shun the Honda out of the contention list.

I think Maruti has nothing to worry about, infact, Maruti should themselves keep a test drive Amaze Diesel in their showroom next to the Dzire Diesel for the customers to know hands on what is what

[Schoudhury]

Originally Posted by humyum

I think Maruti has nothing to worry about, infact, Maruti should themselves keep a test drive Amaze Diesel in their showroom next to the Dzire Diesel for the customers to know hands on what is what

How is the build quality of the Amaze compared to the Dzire ?
We have a Dzire in our apartment, and i checked the boot of the car once and it was not at all inspiring . The material used is not good .
Any bang @ the rear of the car, gonna be very risky for the passengers in the car which i feel is very dangerous

[namit]

For exterior looks its the Amaze and besides that nothing else amazes me about the amaze

My personal opinion though

Honestly its hard to digest how we ourselves create hype of something out of nothing .. I mean how can u compare a newly built non proven and that too a diesel engine from a petrol expert continent manufacturer ... Well let Honda prove themselves in Diesel whereas Fiat and other european manufacturers are experts in diesel technology dont forget fiat multijet is a world engine of the year 2005 and it won on various parameters including low maintenance

No offense but i am amazed more by our auto journos hype in favour of amaze . I think they too are inclined towards the honda brand And realize what aam janta will prefer so hence the amaze

One thing to clarify i am not starting an argument here but expressing myself