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23rd April 2013, 17:57 | #31 | |
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The Sinhaghad road is very wide but has 3 signals (not too long except the last one at Santosh Hall) before you get onto the Bypass. But you would have spent good time crossing Pimpri Chinchwad areas anyhow. Karve Road option also works for you but again its a very busy road with singals that may increase time. Best thing about the Chakan option is that once you are on the bypass, even with just one traffic signal at Hinjewadi (and the diversions due to 6 laning), you will be able to cover good distance and with ease and quickly get out of the city all the way to Katraj Tunnels. Last edited by paragsachania : 23rd April 2013 at 18:09. | |
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Yes the Dehu road option is shorter compared to the Talegaon route. Secondly, the Chakan-Talegaon road is single lane and witnesses very heavy truck traffic due to high concentration of industries around. Most of the trucks going towards Mumbai (either via NH4 or Expressway) take this route. Last year, I used this on a Saturday evening to reach Expressway for Mumbai from Aurangabad. With so many trucks all the way, overtaking is almost impossible. We also witnessed a huge jam nearing Talegaon due to a minor accident also. Considering this the Dehu road option is better IMHO. Last edited by paragsachania : 23rd April 2013 at 18:47. | |
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11th May 2013, 19:04 | #34 |
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| Re: Bypassing Pune on Bangalore-Shirdi route
Thanks for the help. I went by the Talegaon Chakan road and then followed the Dehu - Alandi Road finally joining Mumbai-Pune Bypass road. Took around around 1hour 15 mins to cover the distance from Chakan to the Katraj Tunnel. This was around 10 am on weekday. |
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| Re: Bypassing Pune on Bangalore-Shirdi route I will land in Pune Airport on 4th September, Friday 2:45PM and my darshan is booked in Shirdi at 9:00PM. I will be taking a zoom car from Dorabjees's, Aiport Road. Will I be able to reach on time for darshan? Can someone please sugegst a best route from Pune Airport to Shirdi avoiding Pune traffic. |
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So you should not really spend much time to exit Pune as you will start from Dorabjee's. Assuming that your flight lands on time (14:45) you would be out in 30 minutes max (15:15) and reach Dorabjee's at 15:30 and start for Shirdi from here at 15:45, you need to budget at least 4 hours from here for Shirdi which would mean you will reach at 19:45. I guess you should manage this even with little bit of delay too. Remember that from Dorabjee's you need to continue on the same road away from the Airport and at the next Major Signal (Nagar Road Intersection), turn left here and it's one road all the way till Nagar town and you will not have to enter Nagar town to make it to Shirdi road. Last edited by paragsachania : 24th August 2015 at 18:35. | |
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13th June 2016, 14:58 | #37 |
Senior - BHPian | Re: Bypassing Pune on Bangalore-Shirdi route @Parag, I suggest you to add the way points (Dropped pins) of Google maps to this thread. It immensly helped us when travelling from Bangalore via Pune towards Shirdi. Onward journey took us around 1.5 hrs to cross Pune coz of the Saturday afternoon traffic, but return was just 40 minutes coz of the exact directions provided by You. |
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| Re: Bypassing Pune on Bangalore-Shirdi route Update on an alternative route for bypassing Pune (partly different route )- NOTE :- The standard route i. e New Katraj tunnel--Vadgaon Plata exit--Sinhagad--Saras baug--Tilak road--Swargate--Shankarshet-Magarpatta--Kharadi bypass--Wagholi--Chandan Nagar junction--Nagar road--Wagholi (as described by Parag and is popular in this thread, rightly so) still holds good. I am just giving an alternate perspective for some apparent reasons. I will be talking about the route between NH4 and Swargate junction, officially known as "Satara road" in Pune. My version of partly alternate route in Pune -- Exit from NH4 at Shindewadi octroi(now city bus stand/depot)--turn right below highway at underpass--take old Katraj tunnel old Katraj ghat--Katraj traffic signal--Satara road--Swargate--Shankarshet road--Camp--Magarpatta city--Kharadi bypass--Chandan nagar junction--Nagar road--Wagholi--exit Pune. So, as you can notice, the route is same from Shankarshet onwards wrt the standard route. 1. Some part of 8 kms long Old Katraj Ghat (old Katraj tunnel route) which is a 2 lane, has been reasphalted last month. It is done over that stretch which had lot of potholes earlier. Rest of the road, as of last month, remains the old one with average surface and all potholes patched up. Old Katraj Ghat can be termed as average to good. 2. Katraj--Swargate road or Satara road -- This is a 6 kms long, 6 lane wide road with BRTS. 2 flyovers on this road. Shankarrao maharaj flyover of 1.2 kms long has been open to traffic since last year. It bypasses the messy Dhankawadi Balaji Nagar and KK market junction. 1 traffic signal bypassed. Next flyover is the Y-shape flyover at Jedhe chowk, Swargate or simply Swargate junction. This was the most horrible junction wrt traffic snarls until 20 days back. Thanks to the 1.78kms Y-shape flyover that was opened to public 2 weeks back, bypasses this messy junction. 2 traffic signals bypassed. Gets you directly ahead of PMPML Depot on Shankarshet road. Both of these flyovers have provided a big relief for traffic on this road. You will still encounter about 3 more traffic signals on non flyover section. Great change and relief ever since these flyovers were thrown open to public. The standard route New Katraj tunnel--Sinhagad--Swargate has about 7-8 traffic signals to deal with and no flyovers anywhere. While the Satara road Y-shape flyover bypasses the Swargate junction, taking Sinhagad route will take you through the traffic signal at this junction. You need to do some lefts and rights taking standard route, but old Katraj Ghat would mean, one exit from NH4, straight and all the way and only one right to get past Swargate. Standard route is also about 3kms longer compared to my version BUT the NH4 /GQ bypass, now 6 lane from earlier 4 lane, till Vadgaon Phata exit is/was the sole game changer. Add to it, the pleasure of driving through 1.3km long, fully illuminated twin Katraj new tunnels (4laned) . Panoramic first beautiful views of Pune city, as you get pass these tunnels and hills and the tall viaduct. This is kinda majestic and a hip entry to Pune. Old Katraj tunnel which is just about 300metres,non-illuminated,narrow 2 lane has its old world charm. Nice ghat road, and once you exit the tunnel, you get some nice views of Pune from here too. Like I said, this is the old fashioned style of getting into Pune from south. Timing wise, both the routes take more or less same time, thanks to flyovers on Satara road. BUT, 2 lane old Katraj Ghat vs 6 lane GQ bypass is a matter of contention here. Future perspective -- Grade separator is going to be built at Swargate junction shortly, messing up the traffic, so my version of route can come handy then. For now, STICK TO the standard route (Parag's version). Please, Don't mistake me to be nitpicking the standard route. What he has described all these days still holds VERY GOOD. Also, I guess no one will be interested to know how Pune looks from different angles after driving 825 kms from Bangalore. My intention was to only update regarding the flyovers and put up a different perspective. Say in rare case, Sinhagad road has deadly traffic jams, keep my route handy. If in future, the grade separator work creates a lot of mess at Swargate junction, we can update ourselves for which can be a convenient route. Attaching two images, first one is Shankar rao maharaj flyover and second is Swargate Y-shape flyover Pic credits - - resp. Owners |
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In my opinion, Traffic on 8kms long Old Katraj Ghat is always moderate and acceptable to me for the standards of a route that enters a major metropolis. There is moving traffic always except at the base of the ghat which very rarely gets jammed. Until few days back, there were these annoying potholes and the road in between was very rough that was quite a deterrent and slowed down the traffic. Other day I saw, that particular section was relaid with fresh tarmac. 12-15 mins max for a bike, 15-20 mins max for a car and 20-25 for a bus, if I have to rate it for a normal peak hour traffic. Yes, you can say, in case one happens to crawl here for any reason, it can get compensated over the two flyovers later on. The catch here is that one can just fly over the 6 lane bypass till Vadgaon phata exit, if he intends to take Sinhagad road. So, there are actually two matters for argument here -- 1. If the 8 kms long old Katraj Ghat takes max 15-20 mins for a car, it takes just about 8-9 mins max over the 6 lane bypass till Vadgaon phata exit, considering same origin point i.e Shindewadi octroi. 2.The routes later on i. e Sinhagad road vs Satara road to reach Swargate. As on date, Satara road wins because of its two flyovers and lesser traffic signals to deal with. Also, it's just one straight and right turn for Shankarshet road. Swargate junction escaped ! My opinion that Sinhagad route still holds good, is only based on a perspective of someone who drives from Bangalore, as I am not sure how many are willing to exit the 6 lane and take the 2 lane ghat road for next 8 kms. Probably some would prefer to stick to 6 lane bypass, non-ghat road, no??. I am just reserving my comments until someone driving all the way from Bangalore would actually find the old Katraj Ghat--Satara road easier and stressfree to pass. Personally, I would just take off the old Katraj Ghat and the flyovers on Satara road knowing Pune and it's traffic well. I know I can get past Swargate faster via Satara road than the Sinhagad road. Agree with rest of all your thoughts. Ofcourse, when you drive next time to Pune/Shirdi from Bangalore taking this flyover route, your judgment will be better and much clearer for all other Bangalorean folks who would drive a whopping 830 kms. I would eagerly wait for your take on this. | |
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| An update about Bypassing Pune without getting any closer to Pune: Last week between Friday through Sunday, I drove Bangalore - Aurangabad - Bangalore. I was driving along with just one co-passenger (my father) and hence wanted to take plunge in experimenting with a detour, assess its worthiness and post a detailed update here. This update is for those interested to not enter Pune or halt at Pune while driving towards Ahmednagar, Shirdi or Aurangabad; All of these 3 places can also be via Points while you are headed elsewhere - Indore, Jalna, Dhule etc when heading North and wanting to avoid the Pune - Mumbai (or even Mumbai - Ahmedabad Belt) completely without touching the Western India route. I would like to provide detailed updates covering all aspects so that there are no recurring or redundant questions regarding any apprehensions that you may have. Based on your requirements, driving habits, nature of co passengers, time of the day, you can decide either to take this detour or completely ignore and stick to the usual route via Pune More about this route that bypasses Pune:
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How much time does this take? I wanted to compare this with the Pune route but due to change in my departure timing for my return trip from Aurangabad, I ended up taking the same route back. Interestingly, I took the same (well almost) time for both onward and return leg for this stretch : So budget anywhere between 2.50 Hours to 3:00 Hours to do this stretch and join back either of the ends (Satara or Shirur) and start cruising at Dual carriageway speeds. If you compare the 2.5 Hours against taking the usual Pune route, here is how it compares -
This translates to anywhere between 3.5 Hours (non Peak Pune) to 4.5 Hours (Peak Pune) to travel between the same Origin (Satara) and Destination (Shirur) that would take not more than 3 Hours at Max along the detour mentioned. When can I avoid this and still take the route via Pune:
When can I avoid Pune and take this detour:
Important: I am hoping that I have covered most of the aspects that each of us travelers must know regarding the Good and the bad between both the routes. Hence, before posting a query, I request you to go through all the points as It addresses most of it that you ask Here's a glimpse of a short stretch between Satara and Lonand from my Dashcam: Last edited by Zappo : 21st March 2017 at 13:44. |
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| Re: Bypassing Pune on Bangalore-Shirdi route Great update Parag, was waiting for this From the video, looks like a road worth doing 60-80. Maybe a tad too narrow for overtaking?! Or is it just these 'ghat' sections? One further question, where do you exit NH4 to get on this road? How much of Satara would you have to negotiate? Are there any safety issues? |
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| Re: Bypassing Pune on Bangalore-Shirdi route
Perfectly guessed. Not more than 80 at most of the places. However, you get some really empty straight stretches where you can do 100 and maintain it for not more than 30 seconds. Also, roads ahead of Supe get wider than the initial part. Quote:
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| Re: Bypassing Pune on Bangalore-Shirdi route Quote:
My plan was to leave Aurangabad on Sunday morning between 0400-0430 but going to sleep last night beyond 0000 hours only meant I had to sleep well to be able to drive all day next day. So I wake up at 1100 and start at 1200 noon and that is when we decided to take the same route back instead of getting stuck at various tin yet messy intersections right from Rajangaon all the way till Wagholi. Furthermore, I have found that Pune even on a Sunday noon is not enjoying the siesta after a heavy lunch and I find many many cars and 2 wheelers that dithered me to take this route on return as I would be passing this around 0400PM. | |
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