[vinu_h]

Originally Posted by msdivy

Usually, there is a penalty for losing the parking ticket. Why do you call the parking attendants as 'thugs'?
Imagine the case where a car thief picks a car from the parking lot and tries to drive away, what should the parking attendant do?

Because they were behaving like one, which is why the traffic police chap sided with me.

The time stamps on the platform ticket and train arrival time were < 10 minutes and the sorry part of it all, the parking tokens collected at the exit did not have car number mentioned on it. It was a red/yellow paper token with a day and time stamp; which means you can drive out in a different car than you came in in.

Take away is, in case you lose yours get another before you exit.

[condor]

Speaking of parking in Bangalore city station, the one near the rear entrance ( PF 8 / 9 ) is PATHETIC !! Have not seen a more badly designed unit. Worse, inside there are no markings for entry or exit - or passage.

[dass]

Is it safe the park the car there for an overnight journey? I need to travel to Chennai and will be back the next day, so thinking of taking the car and parking it there instead of depending on public transport.

[kutoos]

Friends,

Have a query on KSR Bangalore City station. We will be enrouting through KSR after diwali break. The plan is we arrive by double decker at 1 PM, our next connection is at 8.20 (Udyan Exp).

Was Planning to do a bit of local sight seeing during the few hours we have, but i want to know if there is a reliablecloak room facility available at KSR.

Also what would be an ideal place to visit and get back to the station well in time to retrieve the luggage and board.

Cheers

[mazda4life]

Originally Posted by kutoos

Friends,

Have a query on KSR Bangalore City station. We will be enrouting through KSR after diwali break. The plan is we arrive by double decker at 1 PM, our next connection is at 8.20 (Udyan Exp).Cheers

There should be one on Platform 1 , have not used it though. Regards to sight seeing, you can cross the road and catch the metro purple line to roam around the Bangalore CBD including MG Road, Vidhanasoudha, Museum and again take the same metro back to Majestic to catch Udyan Exp. Or if you are interested in Old Bangalore, take a autorickshaw from the pre-paid stall and visit Gandhibazar, Basavangudi, Lalbagh etc and have sumptuous food at MTR

[Punto_Ntorq Guy]

Originally Posted by tharian

Probably as per design, it was supposed to telescope.



Short hood was what was preferred anytime, just that there needs to be a 'triangle' or a turntable nearby to the station where the loco's could be turned around for short hood orientation.
I remember the Bangalore Rajdhani, before it got an electric loco used to travel around 10 kms one way after reaching Bangalore City, everyday to a triangle nearby, just to turn around so that the short hood was facing forwards when heading towards Delhi later in the day. It has a higher speed to keep which was possible with the short hood forward.

Famous DEE (Delhi Sarai Rohilla)Garibrath (NR rake) which ran via ADI (Ahmedabad), JP (Jaipur) had TKD WDM 3a SHF as its link, This train Ran 130 KMPH along WR. Same engine is turned using Turn Table in BAMY (Bandra Marshalling Yard) and used as SHFagain.


SBC Rajdhani's KZJ WDM gets reversed using YPR-Channasandra-BYPL- KGI- SBC Triangle. Not using Turntable.

Similar Arrangements are there (triangle) in Chennai Area too

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by Punto_Ntorq Guy

SBC Rajdhani's KZJ WDM gets reversed using YPR-Channasandra-BYPL- KGI- SBC Triangle. Not using Turntable.

Can you elaborate on this please. I tried to sketch this route using GMaps, I could not figure out the sequence of stations that the loco would traverse from SBC in LHF config and return back to SBC in SHF config

[tharian]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

Can you elaborate on this please. I tried to sketch this route using GMaps, I could not figure out the sequence of stations that the loco would traverse from SBC in LHF config and return back to SBC in SHF config

Actually there is no Yelahanka or Kengeri stations in the picture. The location of the triangle is https://goo.gl/maps/RPMStMgVKVf31ube8 or at times;

https://maps.app.goo.gl/fUXr7oZtem7cUFuQA?g_st=ic

The train reaches Bangalore City on the Yelhanka-Yeshwantpur -Malleswaram line, reverses at city to go onto the Chennai mainline which then is LHF, reverses at the triangle and returns to City station again as LHF and gets attached to the rake to head back towards Yelahanka which then becomes SHF.
I have illustrated below in a basic diagram for easier understanding.

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by tharian

Actually there is no Yelahanka or Kengeri stations in the picture. The location of the triangle is https://goo.gl/maps/RPMStMgVKVf31ube8

The train reaches Bangalore City on the Yelhanka-Yeshwantpur -Malleswaram line, reverses at city to go onto the Chennai mainline which then is LHF, reverses at the triangle and returns to City station again as LHF and gets attached to the rake to head back towards Yelahanka which then becomes SHF.
I have illustrated below in a basic diagram for easier understanding.

Thanks for the explanation.

Do all locomotives that arrive in SBC as SHF do this circuit to achieve the transition from LHF to SHF or only locomotives of prestige trains?

[tharian]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

Thanks for the explanation.

Do all locomotives that arrive in SBC as SHF do this circuit to achieve the transition from LHF to SHF or only locomotives of prestige trains?

It was just Rajdhani's Loco that did this.

[Punto_Ntorq Guy]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

Can you elaborate on this please. I tried to sketch this route using GMaps, I could not figure out the sequence of stations that the loco would traverse from SBC in LHF config and return back to SBC in SHF config

To Understand it is essential to understand SBC (Bangalore City Jn)'s Layout

In Bangalore not all platforms are connected to the different sides, PF 1,2,3 from Cantonment is as good as terminal PF's as lines don't proceed towards Mysore (Reason behind VB & Shatabti don't come in PF1. PF 4,5,6,7 from Cantonment side is connected to Kengeri/Nayandahalli/ Krishnadevaraya Side, (Reason for through trains from Chennai to Mysore runs via these PF). Both these lines are not connected to Malleswaram/ Yeswanthpur Side. PF 8,9, & 10 comes from MWM/YPR.

SBC Rajdhani uses YPR Side line & normally uses PF 8 or 9. Train in Diesel (on normal days) would have come with KZJ WDM3A in Short Hood Formation - SHF - Now SHF is pointing towards MYS. 2 ways of using triangle

A. Using Bangalore City -Yelahanka- Channsandra - Krishnarajapuram- Byappanahalli- Channasandra - Yelahanka - Bangalore City
So following will happen:
1. After Decoupling engine still in SHF mode (SHF will be facing MYS side/ Long hood Facing YPR Side) will move will go forward, Switches side and gets into relief line (now in LHF) and continues till Yelahanka (YNK) outer (now also in LHF)
2. At YNK Outer Switches sides towards Channsandra (CDSR) side and Travels till Krishnarajapuram (KJM) (Now in SHF)
3. Engine will go till BYPL (Byappanhalli) in LHF and reverse at BYPL and take YNK Bound line via CDSR till YNK. Till now will be in SHF.
3. Reverse at YNK and reach SBC. Will be LHF till SBC. (Now Long Hood Will face MYS Side/ Short Hood facing YPR side).

Like this engine can also go from SBC (in SHF) via to KGI (in SHF) change direction and travel till CDSR (in LHF) Change Direction & Go till KJM (in SHF). Again Reverse and go to KGI (in LHF) & Go to SBC in SHF.

B. Using Bangalore City - Malleswaram - Yeswanthpur- Hebbal - Banaswadi - Byappanhalli - Krishnarajapuram - Byappanhalli - Yeswanthpur - Bangalore
Engine facing sequence will be SHF facing MYS (LHF Facing YPR) -LHF (till BYPL)- SHF (till KJM)- LHF (till SBC) - SHF facing YPR(LHF Facing MYS)

Originally Posted by tharian

Actually there is no Yelahanka or Kengeri stations in the picture. The location of the triangle is https://goo.gl/maps/RPMStMgVKVf31ube8 or at times;

https://maps.app.goo.gl/fUXr7oZtem7cUFuQA?g_st=ic

The train reaches Bangalore City on the Yelhanka-Yeshwantpur -Malleswaram line, reverses at city to go onto the Chennai mainline.

To Reach MAS bound line from YPR bound line, Engine has to go till Janabarathi (SBC Outer) and take MAS bound line.

[vigsom]

Want to go off-roading in Bengaluru? Please head to the KSR Bengaluru Railway Station back gate parking for a wholesome experience. Along with rocks, irregular surfaces, wild growth and the kind, one will also experience delays in pulling one's car out, especially if one parks at the end. Getting out of the parking can also be a challenge in peak hours like early mornings. Thanks to this Hexa, our departure out was delayed by approx 25 mins. Please do share your tips and tricks to avoid this parking.

[jkrishnakj]

I always park at the main entrance VigSom. I’ve always managed to find a place there, at all times of the day/night. Even when I have to drop my very aged parents, it’s not a big deal since there is an escalator to the bridges and you can use the escalators to get down to platforms. I’ve never tried parking at the back side.

[ninjatalli]

+1 to @jkrishnakj.

Currently the front side of KSR is a bit of a mess with one gate entry undergoing maintenance work but always end up parking our car there. Very affordable (30Rs for 2 hours) and pickup/drop is a breeze from there.

[binaiks]

Originally Posted by Punto_Ntorq Guy

In Bangalore not all platforms are connected to the different sides, PF 1,2,3 from Cantonment is as good as terminal PF's as lines don't proceed towards Mysore (Reason behind VB & Shatabti don't come in PF1. PF 4,5,6,7 from Cantonment side is connected to Kengeri/Nayandahalli/ Krishnadevaraya Side, (Reason for through trains from Chennai to Mysore runs via these PF). Both these lines are not connected to Malleswaram/ Yeswanthpur Side. PF 8,9, & 10 comes from MWM/YPR.

A Small correction - PF 4 is NOT connected to the Mysuru line. Platform 5 to 10 are connected to the Mysuru line. PF 1-4 is connected only to the BNC line. Bengaluru Coaching Depot has a few pit lines right next to PF4, which segregates PF 1-4 from the rest of the station. PF 5-7 are connected to BNC line as well as MYS line. The reason why Shatabdi/VB is always taken on PF 7 is since that platform directly opens to the second entrance of SBC station.

PF 8-10 is connected to YPR line as well as MYS line. Plenty of trains from the YPR line go towards MYS now.

Originally Posted by Punto_Ntorq Guy

SBC Rajdhani uses YPR Side line & normally uses PF 8 or 9. Train in Diesel (on normal days) would have come with KZJ WDM3A in Short Hood Formation - SHF - Now SHF is pointing towards MYS. 2 ways of using triangle

A. Using Bangalore City -Yelahanka- Channsandra - Krishnarajapuram- Byappanahalli- Channasandra - Yelahanka - Bangalore City

No, They didn't have to do that. The loco simply goes till SBC LSS on the MYS line, and then reverses into the BNC Line (PF7). Heads straight to BYPL - does the BYPL-CSDR-KJM-BYPL triangle and returns LHF to SBC, and then works the Rajdhani SHF via MWM-YPR