[sgiitk]

Project launched:

1. Time cut to 22 months.
2. There will be mandi's ass along. Hopefully there will be roads fro tractors to get there without using the E-way, and also fencing will be well maintained.
3. Speeds of 120kph only.
4. Route - Agra, Ferozabad, Mainpuri, Etawah, Oraiya, Kannauj, Kanpuir-Unnao-Lucknow).
5. Two toll plazas.
6. Two rest houses along with petrol pumps, service centres, and restaurants each on both sides.

Total distance 302km. Estimated time - Lucknow-Agra four hours.

[joybhowmik]

Originally Posted by sgiitk

Project launched:

Total distance 302km. Estimated time - Lucknow-Agra four hours.

And another in the making?
Source TOI

Plan for expressway from Lucknow to Ballia; 6-lane highway to pass Azamgarh, reach Bihar border

According to a draft of the state government, the proposed 382 km six-lane expressway, the longest in the country (until now Lucknow-Agra expressway is the longest), will pass through Azamgarh, Mulayam's parliamentary constituency, to reach Ballia, on the UP-Bihar border.
Sources said the expressway may bypass Sultanpur which lies between Lucknow and Azamgarh. It may, however, touch Kagazipur which is between Azamgarh and Ballia.
The state government had asked a consultant to study the feasibility of the project and provide a final draft along with the alignment of the expressway by July.

[sgiitk]

Yes, Ballia to make it easier for our sultan (Mulayam) to meet his Samadhi (Lalu). A totally Balliatic (5tup1d=Balliatic in local parlance) idea. Economics can go to kingdom come. These are the new nawabs.

[maddy42]

Will this help ease traffic from the east to the north? Just asking as now looks like the entire UP east to west would be easier to travel as long as your near any of these roads.

Interesting that UP govts have gotten into expressway politics though.
Real estate play maybe?

Coming from a state like Karnataka hope our politicos are listening!
We have Blr and thats about it and the state cannot develop a proper alternate.
The Mysore blr road is overcrowded.
Blr to North Karnataka road is thanks to the golden quadrilateral.
Nice road is around bangalore and thats it.

Rest are all bhagwan bharose state roads!

Maddy

[sgiitk]

Originally Posted by maddy42

1. Will this help ease traffic from the east to the north? Just asking as now looks like the entire UP east to west would be easier to travel as long as your near any of these roads.

2. Interesting that UP govts have gotten into expressway politics though.
Real estate play maybe?

1. Maybe, esp help smugglers from Nepal.
2. Could be. Maya has the Gaurs (of YE fame), and Mulayam possibly Singh.

[joybhowmik]

Originally Posted by sgiitk

Route - Agra, Ferozabad, Mainpuri, Etawah, Oraiya, Kannauj, Kanpuir-Unnao-Lucknow).

Originally Posted by sgiitk

Economics can go to kingdom come.

Quite so
A glance at the Google Map version reveals the multiple zig zags in the first leg from Agra to Lucknow.

The second leg's alignment (from Lucknow to Ballia) is an approximation of the alignment if a reasonable man were to do it. No arguments about the why's of Lucknow to Ballia - that may be a family matter after all.

However, as is likely, reasonability would be sacrificed at the alter of electionomics. So, won't be surprised if this alignment too ends up being a joke.

[alpha1]

Originally Posted by joybhowmik

Quite so
A glance at the Google Map version reveals the multiple zig zags in the first leg from Agra to Lucknow.

The second leg's alignment (from Lucknow to Ballia) is an approximation of the alignment if a reasonable man were to do it. No arguments about the why's of Lucknow to Ballia - that may be a family matter after all.

However, as is likely, reasonability would be sacrificed at the alter of electionomics. So, won't be surprised if this alignment too ends up being a joke.

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There is a possibility that mutiple zigs zags are in place to accommodate the towns with higher economic output (which require fast transport, the last mile connectivity to smaller towns and villages achieved through National Highways and State Highways)?

You know an empty expressways would be the most stupid investment of money. (To be honest the stretch from Noida to Agra is already very very empty most of the times)

[sgiitk]

C@Alpha1; More likely they are the family constituencies. Kannauj & Mainpuri for sure.

[joybhowmik]

Originally Posted by sgiitk

C@Alpha1; More likely they are the family constituencies. Kannauj & Mainpuri for sure.

Yes - likely what the prof has said.

Originally Posted by alpha1

There is a possibility that mutiple zigs zags are in place to accommodate the towns with higher economic output (which require fast transport, the last mile connectivity to smaller towns and villages achieved through National Highways and State Highways)?

You know an empty expressways would be the most stupid investment of money.

In terms of the best economics - what works (or has worked in multiple countries) is a tree like framework - where the main trunk is the expressway and feeders (state roads) off it connecting to such centers of population. It works until the center grows and touches the expressway itself. E.g. I-95 in USA which has now been engulfed by New York, Boston, Washington D.C. or closer home how the GT road has become a local road.

One does not normally snake the expressway itself through the centers themselves, unless the reason is more than economic. In fact, zig zags will make for greater travel time and more fuel consumption.

[sgiitk]

Originally Posted by joybhowmik

One does not normally snake the expressway itself through the centers themselves, unless the reason is more than economic. In fact, zig zags will make for greater travel time and more fuel consumption.

Who cares about economics? Maybe at a future date these kinks will be ironed out with more direct links. We are looking in an age of satraps who are happier with .... driven vehicles.

[maddy42]

Originally Posted by joybhowmik

Yes - likely what the prof has said.



In terms of the best economics - what works (or has worked in multiple countries) is a tree like framework - where the main trunk is the expressway and feeders (state roads) off it connecting to such centers of population. It works until the center grows and touches the expressway itself. E.g. I-95 in USA which has now been engulfed by New York, Boston, Washington D.C. or closer home how the GT road has become a local road.

One does not normally snake the expressway itself through the centers themselves, unless the reason is more than economic. In fact, zig zags will make for greater travel time and more fuel consumption.

There is idealists and there are politicians. The number of stories of regional or even big leaders flexing muscles to get the designs of infra projects changed is numerous. Until then we will get this.

Maddy

[skdking]

Friends,

Pl read this.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...3&goto=newpost

The ground work is going on at good pace, it seems.

[sgiitk]

Now all culverts etc. are being made 8-lane. The highway will be six lane expandable to eight at short notice.

[skdking]

Originally Posted by sgiitk

Now all culverts etc. are being made 8-lane. The highway will be six lane expandable to eight at short notice.

Prof,

Any more info please keep sharing it here.

Thanks.

[skdking]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

Thanks for the link, clears up a lot of things! And no expertise there, was kinda free in office so just joined the dots on the map.



Here is another version based on skdking's post. Google could not find the village 'Neval'. I do see a Purey Neval (Gonda) but that is further away from Lucknow.
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Hello Dry Ice,

Now the ongoing work can be seen clearly on Google Maps, especially near Agra, Fatehabad and Vill Araul near Kannauj.

Can you draw a latest alignment sketch of ALE?

Sorry for seeking to exploit your expertise.

Thanks.