[PrasannaDhana]

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

slowing down was atleast 1-2 seconds late and honking would've been unnecessary, if the situation was anticipated early.

Oh you are saying we must slow down on the fast lane when a two wheeler is merging onto the highway from a service road?

No offense, we can theoretically talk anything. I don't think one can anticipate stupidity earlier than that has been done on the video. That honking saved him. He wouldn't even have noticed the car if I hadn't honked.

[Meph1st0]

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

slowing down was atleast 1-2 seconds late and honking would've been unnecessary, if the situation was anticipated early.

Honking loudly is necessary in such situations to signal the moron that what he did was wrong (though however small the possibility of him understanding is). Else he would never realize the the mistake he committed and next time he could feature in the Accidents thread.

[chaitanyakrish]

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

Oh

If we have to change the outcome the next time, we need to change the way we observe and anticipate. The biker changed lanes because of the stopped bus, which ideally shouldn't stop near exits or highway merge points. We need to anticipate the move and its not a complicated scenario.

Originally Posted by Meph1st0

Honking loudly is necessary in such situations

There are millions of morons on our road. If we let this guy know ( assuming he understood, which is rare ), there will be another such biker after a few meters. We cannot react and teach everyone on the road, its the duty of the enforcement and our duty is to prevent a crash.

[RGK]

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

Didn't I?

Yes, you noticed it early, but u did slowed down bit late.

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

slowing down was atleast 1-2 seconds late and honking would've been unnecessary,

Exactly, but honking saved him.

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

Oh you are saying we must slow down on the fast lane when a two wheeler is merging onto the highway from a service road?

As per the book, the biker has to slow down but to avoid unnecessary consequences, you did the right thing

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

If we have to change the outcome the next time, we need to change the way we observe and anticipate. The biker changed lanes because of the stopped bus, which ideally shouldn't stop near exits or highway merge points. We need to anticipate the move and its not a complicated scenario.

In India, we drive cautiously relying solely on anticipation. The root cause is because of the wrong position of the bus stop. The biker should have anticipated than the fast lane driver.

Mostly, the result is determined by the experience, alertness and quick reactions in that moment.

[GeeTee TSI]

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

Dark black tints and probably hearing loss too. I engaged reverse and moved back right in time.

https://Youtu.be/cHlAJb22fIc?si=SuWrQArNfqqE0eM_

If wishes were horses my car (yours actually) should magically transform into a massive truck; with the mindless, reversing car crashing into it losing its rear windscreen and taillights in the process.
Back to reality, brilliant reflex action of hitting reverse and executing it safely.

[locusjag]

Originally Posted by Meph1st0

Honking loudly is necessary in such situations to signal the moron that what he did was wrong (though however small the possibility of him understanding is). Else he would never realize the the mistake he committed and next time he could feature in the Accidents thread.

You just can't be sure anymore. Honking loudly these days elicits visceral hatred from other road users (2 wheelers included), even when they've been in the wrong.

More practical advice would be to just brake, save the idiots' lives and move on silently. Let these idiots die under someone else's wheels. There is simply no learning loop here - there's only "it's my way, me, me and only me". And when such unstoppable forces inevitably meet immovable objects (read: big trucks, etc.), they go on to meet their maker.

If I had been in Mr.Prasanna's shoes, I would've let go of the accelerator upon seeing this moving object creeping up from the left margin and I would've effortlessly let the idiot do his thing without touching the brake. My driving speed on our highways is only a paltry 70 to 80 Kmph to start with, which would make this sort of outcome possible. I fully understand that my style of driving would bore most of us and I'm not here to pontificate that I'm the best driver out there. I'm merely a clock that has long since stopped running and now would be the only one of two times that I'm right during an entire day

[krishnakumar]

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

A classic CBDR situation, which is avoidable, if anyone of the road users recognizes it. More details about that are shared in this post.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/road-...uce-risks.html (Understanding your Vision Limits as a driver / rider to reduce risks)

Thanks for sharing this. Never knew the concept of CBDR and it totally makes sense once I went through your thread.

And this particular usecase is a quintessential CBDR - the biker is glued to the exact same bearing which actually enables a much longer reaction time than otherwise (i.e if the concept of CBDR is not applied which would be just when the other vehicle is in front of us).

The action would also be very simple, just lift off the throttle as locusjag pointed out and the bearing would automatically change removing our vehicle from the collision path. There will be negligible drop in average speed as well.

I am curious to see how many CBDR cases pop up the next time I take my car out on a long drive.

[Thad E Ginathom]

I haven't heard it abbreviated as such, but this constant-bearing thing is something that sailors learn. If you approaching another vessel, and the bearing doesn't change, you will collide. When pottering along at three or four knots, these situations can take a long time to suddenly become a close encounter, which makes it even more important to take early notice and constantly monitor.

[chaitanyakrish]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

but this constant-bearing thing is something that sailors learn. If you approaching another vessel, and the bearing doesn't change, you will collide.

Yes, its used in naval and aviation industries a lot but the concept can be applied on the road as well.

Most A pillar blindspot crashes near intersections would mostly attribute to CBDR, as both drivers are caught by surprise.

https://jalopnik.com/the-deadly-phen...-ed-1821999343

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

Yes, its used in naval and aviation industries a lot but the concept can be applied on the road as well.

Of course! It applies to any moving objects. Even pedestrians.

[Anotherone666]

Tailgating is a sign of bad driver. Drivers who constantly follow other cars without maintaining appropriate distance specially in heavy traffic area cause accidents. If I observe any car in front of me that is tailgating another vehicle I reduce my speed and let him go ahead so that I am no longer in danger zone and have peace of mind while driving.

Furthermore, drivers who listen to music at very high volume. The level of volume at which sound (bass) comes out of the vehicle even if their windows are completely rolled up that is also a sign on bad driver.

[Mustang Sammy]

The below vehicle was weaving through slow moving traffic, jumping traffic lights and cutting other vehicles off.

To be fair, he has enough markers for motorists to know to stay far away. Here are the ones I identified:

1. Black Scorpio
2. Illegally tinted windows
3. Extra bumper with the word “SCORPIO” emblazoned on it
4. Sticker of a famous historical figure in combination with above 3 markers.

[Mustang Sammy]

Another far too common occurrence on our roads. People backing down flyovers after they realize they should have taken the side road.
This time it’s a truck doing it at 7:30am, but all vehicle types are guilty of this dangerous and inconsiderate behavior.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by Mustang Sammy

People backing down flyovers after they realize they should have taken the side road.

Saw this on Adyar flyover the other evening. Granted, he was right at the beginning of the flyover, but still, it is hardly a slow-traffic place.

Taken a wrong turning on highway/flyover-type roads? Suck up the consequences. I remember one lane mistake on my part that cost me 30km!

[jigar1791@gmail]

Anyone has seen road rage in between trucks?

How about this -
https://x.com/rsguy_india/status/183...tDR_Iz1pyjm23w

Looks scary, isn’t it?

Imagine a smaller vehicle coming in between the trucks’ dangerous manoeuvres, scared to even think of it