[GrammarNazi]

Originally Posted by wooka

Sorry there,
Our country's situation. Is pitiful. 1% vehicles 11% of (recorded) deaths / accidents... What was the Stat sorry?

Originally Posted by Shreyans_Jain

What’s stopping these faulty airbags from being used in Indian cars now? If a manufacturer had been willing to compromise ethics and deliberately use faulty airbags post the 6 airbags rule, they will do so anyway. That’s a separate issue altogether.

While car makers may not really actually care for peoples lives, I wouldn't imagine they'd be so malicious to wantonly go out of their way to change their long pre-scheduled Govt prescribed twin front airbag purchase to some cheap defective airbags that were scammily certified & recently put into the market by questionable entities.

Originally Posted by audioholic

... When BSNCAP kicks in the customers are anyway informed well about their purchase, and its their call to buy an unsafe car or not. If Maruti continues to manufacture unsafe cars, let them do so. They will get poor ratings and in spite of that if someone wants to buy its their call.

As long as the mindset of the people change in our country, everything else will. Just stuffing a poorly built car with six airbags isnt going to change anything. BSNCAP will ensure that even an Alto will get its safety ratings clear based on what Maruti has to offer as standard equipment and then its the consumers choice.

I wish the minister showed this generosity, indulgence & freedom of letting the consumers choose Diesel too, instead of threatening to heavily tax diesels into unviability & forcing ethanol mixed fuels & EVs down our cars throats.

Maybe he should've rather threatened to impose an additional 10% GST cess on cars that fare poorly in B-NCAP.

[Naetik30]

Originally Posted by ishekk

Adding airbags increases the costs and makes entry level cars unaffordable. Going by the safety logic, we should ban all the two wheelers as they are far more unsafe then any entry level car.

We will never go anywhere as a society with 'whataboutery'. Especially a developing nation like India should go all in for human life.

Sorry to see such comments even on Team-bhp.

[GTE]

I wish the minister showed this generosity, indulgence & freedom of letting the consumers choose Diesel too,

Gift him a diesel manufacturing unit & see the result.

[helios9406]

Originally Posted by rakesh_r

The Indian Government now takes a U-Turn on its 6 airbag mandate.

While this a blow to personal safety of passengers, it means that the pressure tactics of automobile industry has worked.

This might also mean that small cars like Tata Nano which also has lower price as USP might be on anvil.

Sadly, affordability has won over safety.

[abhiijithbhatn]

Things to consider before calling the recent policy U-turn on car safety features a "stupid" move:

-Will it make cars more expensive?
-Is a family of four riding in a BMW GS 1250 safer than in an Alto in any situation or condition?
-Will it increase India's dependence on foreign IP products and services?
-Is India manufacturing all of the electronic hardware and sensor components needed for microsecond analysis, except for the physical hardware?
-Could an emerging Indian consumer who is dreaming of buying a car be pushed back into the lower middle class because of the new safety requirements?

ABS was made mandatory when ABS lobby told it would save lives. But it hasn't proved in real life.
Ref - https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/811182
"This report concludes that four-wheel ABS has essentially zero net effect on fatal crashes, but significantly reduces nonfatal crash involvements"

[ishekk]

Originally Posted by Naetik30

We will never go anywhere as a society with 'whataboutery'. Especially a developing nation like India should go all in for human life.

Sorry to see such comments even on Team-bhp.

Instead of writing general commentary can you please answer specifically that based on safety logic, why all 2 wheelers shouldn't be banned as they are inherently unsafe?

[SJ1211]

Horrendous, worst and disgraceful decision! We were and we will be the nation of tin cans! Congratulations Maruti! Yes you won! Not that other manufacturers are saints but at least they tried with 6 airbags as standard. Maruti from the beginning knew that they would be able to influence the government, so they never made 6 airbags as standard. Never expected this from Mr. G! Utter disappointment. Let people die and we will live like a king

I am pretty sure Maruti will influence Govt to lower the taxes on Hybrids and then Govt will come and say - EVs for our country are unsustainable, we will in the meantime work on Hybrids! Wow! Maruti.. you are scaling new lows! Please remove airbags from your cars and give 100kmpl mileage.

[Naetik30]

Originally Posted by ishekk

Instead of writing general commentary can you please answer specifically that based on safety logic, why all 2 wheelers shouldn't be banned as they are inherently unsafe?

Sir, I guess you didnt understand 'whataboutery'. Though I do not want to engage in this discussion anymore, I will stop with this final reply -

1. Yes. All two wheelers are worse with safety. Completely agree with you. But that has no relevance to the topic of airbags in cars. If we relate every improvement to something else - that is the called 'whataboutery'. We can definitely work towards making two wheelers a safer or banning them on a different thread. But has no say in deciding on the air bags.

Lets say, a thief gets caught. His defense cannot be that 'there was another thief as well at the same spot the same day'. FYI. The thief gets punished. End of story.

2. Here is a list - windshield, headlights, indicators, break lights, doors, all seats other than driver seat, entire dashboard, all body panels, mud guards, etc. All the above can be removed from a car - by extending the logic of cost savings on a car. But I am sure none of us will want it.

And again. I rest my case.

[Phantom 510]

Like they say, Wrong people at right places!

[GeeTee TSI]

If we look at the rural India, people (still) travel on trucks and 'atop' buses; it will be a long time when such means of travel are eradicated (perhaps never). Two wheeler riders will coexist with car drivers and much as it pains me to say this, so will 'family of four' transport on a two wheeler.

However, automotive safety (much like flight safety standards) are to be benchmarked to the best in the world and it makes no sense to water it down in the interest of 'inclusivity'. Surely emission norms can also be argued on this absurd logic!

Many of us have owned or travelled in cars which had no rear seatbelts (not uncommon till early 2000's). If we continue to lag behind in relative terms to take the price sensitive customer along, it's nothing but a disservice to that very customer.

[rajshenoy]

Really sad and bit immature too from the ministry.

This leads to safety(6 airbags) only restricted to the top variants and it is a clear sign of lobbying.

Many of us look for VFM mid spec variants of cars and personally I am waiting for couple of options purely because they do not come up with 6 air bags in mid variants.