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Old 15th September 2022, 20:50   #1
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Latin NCAP: Honda WR-V scores 1 star rating

Made-in-Brazil Honda WR-V has scored 1 star rating in the Latin NCAP. The version tested was with 2 airbags.

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Old 15th September 2022, 22:27   #2
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Not Indian and different assessment protocols, but very disappointing from Honda nevertheless. Remember reading that the Brazilian WR-V lost optional curtain airbags with the facelift. In India it never had them and doesn't even have ESC (without which it would have zeroed in 2022 Latin NCAP), three-point seatbelts for all seats and ISOFIX, quite shocking especially given its price. Seems to have done acceptably in all three physical crash tests though, and has a total score barely enough for five stars with Latin NCAP's 2016-19 protocols (would be 4 stars for lack of curtain airbags though).

Also interesting to note the difference in frontal impact performance compared to the 2015 Fit (Jazz) Latin NCAP tested: Honda either removed lap pretensioning or didn't bother demonstrating its effectiveness.

Hope Honda has the New City tested in response. Six airbags and good safety assist tech, and it's exported from India to Mexico. There are clues that suggest Latin NCAP could be testing its competitors the Nissan Versa and VW Virtus.
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Not Indian and different assessment protocols, but very disappointing from Honda nevertheless.
Haven't had the time to dig into the details, but on just the percentage scores and overall star ratings - isnt it interesting that the WRV fared better than the recently tested Tucson with 2 airbags?

Tucson scored a 0 in comparison. And just look at that child protection score!

What would be your take on that?

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1 star seems decent for an entry level car in the recent Latin NCAP tests - with most entrants scoring a 0.
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Seems to have done acceptably in all three physical crash tests though, and has a total score barely enough for five stars with Latin NCAP's 2016-19 protocols
Has Latin NCAP's criteria gone towards too much emphasis on active safety and neglecting passive safety performance?
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And just look at that child protection score!
Isofix is not a standard equipment in Tucson while it is standard in WRV. That's why the big difference in child protection scores.
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Haven't had the time to dig into the details, but on just the percentage scores and overall star ratings - isnt it interesting that the WRV fared better than the recently tested Tucson with 2 airbags?
That's true. With the latest Latin NCAP protocols, not zeroing is quite a feat.

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And just look at that child protection score!
Looks like Hyundai chose not to select child seats again, because even if they did, the result would be zero stars because of a poor safety assist score. Also didn't have three-point seatbelts for all seats (Brazilian WR-V does). It is a shame for Hyundai's flagship to be missing such equipment but they did improve.

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1 star seems decent for an entry level car in the recent Latin NCAP tests - with most entrants scoring a 0.
I suppose it is. It matches the Yaris. But I would have expected Honda to keep up with the times - they were bullish on using Latin NCAP results to sell their cars in the past. The Amaze is also in a similarly bad position for the GNCAP's new protocols in India and Africa.

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Isofix is not a standard equipment in Tucson while it is standard in WRV. That's why the big difference in child protection scores.
The Tucson had ISOFIX anchorages. It didn't have three-point seatbelts in all seats and Hyundai didn't select child restraints for the test.

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Has Latin NCAP's criteria gone towards too much emphasis on active safety and neglecting passive safety performance?
You need to do well in all four areas to do well. The star rating is determined by the lowest of the maximum allowed using scores in each box, like it has been in Euro NCAP since 2009 (see link).

Honda's statement for anyone interested:
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Safety is one of Honda's pillars. As in all models of the brand, it is also a priority in the WR-V. The model meets all legal regulations in Latin America and has several standard safety equipment in all versions, such as stability and traction assistant (VSA), ABS brakes with electronic braking distribution (EBD), slope start assistant (HSA), emergency lights system (ESS), in addition to the exclusive progressive deformation structure ACE™️ (Advanced Compatibility Engineering), ensuring maximum protection in any collision situations. The LX version has two front airbags, the EX also offers the side airbags and the EXL also brings the side airbags of the curtain type.

With all these items, the WR-V achieved superior performance to most models in the compact segment tested according to the new Latin NCAP standard, applied since the end of 2020, which substantially increased the requirement of safety attributes for vehicles. Honda continues to work continuously to further increase the level of safety of its cars, always aiming at maximum quality for the customer.
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Re: Latin NCAP: Honda WR-V scores 1 star rating

With every car getting 0 and 1, it becomes difficult to evaluate safety of cars. NCAP should take a leaf from school/college exam marks and give a score out of 100. For eg: NCAP already has these percentages for each category:

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If they assign equal weightage to each category, this particular car's safety score should be 48 out of 100 (not zero out of 5). A little bit of complexity can be introduced by assigning different weightages to each safety category.
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Re: Latin NCAP: Honda WR-V scores 1 star rating

True, they can introduce some complexity to provide relevance for different needs. E.g., if I don't need child safety, I would like to know the safety rating for a car. Don't leave the general public to do the calculations, which the sales team can misrepresent.

Also, too much focus on active safety makes it difficult to judge for India, where our infrastructure is not there to consume ADAS. Maybe they could add 2-3 versions with the total score being the star rating.
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Re: Latin NCAP: Honda WR-V scores 1 star rating

Just a comparison of Global NCAP Honda City 4th Gen Vs Latin NCAP WRV. These pictures show WRV outperforms the Honda City but Still scores 1 Star!

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Re: Latin NCAP: Honda WR-V scores 1 star rating

Honda City 4th Gen Global NCAP:

The bodyshell was rated as unstable and it was not capable of withstanding further loadings. The footwell area was rated as
unstable.

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WRV Latin NCAP:

Footwell area was rated as stable. The bodyshell was rated as stable.

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Just a comparison of Global NCAP Honda City 4th Gen Vs Latin NCAP WRV. These pictures show WRV outperforms the Honda City but Still scores 1 Star!

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WRV in comparison, seems to have performed equally well as that of the Maruti Vitara Brezza and better than Nissan Magnite & Renault Kiger.
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Latin NCAP holds press day, exhibits test cars from 2021 and 2022.
Interview: Autoblog Uruguay

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