Re: 9 of 10 safest cars in India are from Mahindra & Tata Quote:
Originally Posted by saikarthik I sincerely hope we can make this kind of list. |
I wish we could, but it is impossible. You cannot use crash test ratings for a car tested for any other market with certainty, not even by comparing offset test scores. Our best hope for this would be if a Bharat NCAP is ever set up, which should be able to test a lot more cars than Global NCAP does at present, or if Global NCAP gets a lot more funding from another source (unlikely), or if the manufacturers somehow participate in the voluntary program (very unlikely).
Ratings for cars that have not been tested for India can be viewed as international car news but they should definitely not be used for India regardless of the segment or manufacturer or their history. Yes, you can personally make an educated guess but the moment you say it on a public forum you have to take full responsibility for your claim and the last thing we want to do on a forum like this is potentially mislead consumers.
What we could do instead is perform a static evaluation of the safety features offered by different cars beyond mandatory equipment. For example, somewhat like this thread this thread (True 5 seaters: Affordable cars with five 3-point seatbelts & headrests).
We could have a thread that discusses the availability of the following safety equipment and more on different vehicle models (and also whether it is standard, stand-alone optional, or optional but bundled with other features). It could help consumers looking for specific safety features in their next car without having to scout for individual brochures, and it will also help them identify what equipment is missing (a brochure on the other hand will simply avoid mentioning it). Since manufacturers often update safety equipment I think it would also be wise to mention the time of review.
For each model, we could specify the availability of the following (we need to accept all suggestions before starting, we cannot keep changing the criteria because that would be unfair. It would also be best to exclude proprietary safety systems): - An India-specific NCAP rating if available
- side front torso airbags
- side head airbags (combination or curtain)
- Electronic Stability Control
- 3-point seatbelts in all forward-facing seats
- Head restraints in all forward facing seats
- Seatbelt pretensioners
- ISOFIX anchorages
- i-Size approved ISOFIX anchorages
- Which child restraints the manufacturer recommends for different age groups (if they make a recommendation they usually specify it in the owner's manual)
- Option of disconnecting the front passenger airbag either using a switch or at the dealer level (for those who are forced to install a child restraint on the front passenger seat)
- Forward collision warning
- AEB - car-to-car
- AEB that detects vulnerable road users (pedestrians and cyclists)
- Lane support systems - lane departure warning and lane keep assist
- Rear cross-traffic alert
- Multi-collision brakes
- Pedestrian protection equipment like pop-up hoods (currently available only on higher-end cars)
- Advanced e-Call
- A front centre airbag
- A driver's knee airbag
- Side rear torso airbags
Just as an example:
Škoda Kushaq - reviewed November 2021 - NCAP rating - not available
- Side front torso airbags - optional, bundled
- Side head airbags - optional, bundled (curtain type)
- Electronic Stability Control - standard
- 3-point seatbelts in all forward-facing seats - standard
- Head restraints in all forward facing seats - standard, adjustable
- Seatbelt pretensioners - standard (front, rear)
- ISOFIX anchorages - standard
- i-Size approved ISOFIX anchorages - yes
- Recommended Child Restraints (ECE R44 weight based classification):
"Group 0+: Britax-Römer Baby Safe Plus (i-Size)
Group I: Britax-Römer Duo Plus (Top Tether)
Group II/III: Britax-Römer Kidfix"
Seating positions on Page 29 of Owner's Manual - Option of disconnecting the front passenger airbag - (product brochure and owner's manual have opposing views and I would appreciate it if an owner could help)
- Forward collision warning - NO
- AEB - car-to-car - NO
- AEB that detects vulnerable road users (pedestrians and cyclists) - NO
- Lane support systems - lane departure warning and lane keep assist - NO
- Rear cross-traffic alert - NO
- Multi-collision brakes - standard
- Pop-up hood - NO
Maruti Suzuki Swift - reviewed November 2021 - NCAP rating - Global NCAP (Tested 2018)
Adult Occupant: 2 stars
Child Occupant: 2 stars - Side front torso airbags - NO
- Side head airbags - NO
- Electronic Stability Control - optional, bundled with automated gearbox
- 3-point seatbelts in all forward-facing seats - NO
- Head restraints in all forward facing seats - NO
- ISOFIX anchorages - standard
- i-Size approved ISOFIX anchorages - yes
- Recommended Child Restraints:
"Maruti Suzuki recommends use of Maruti Suzuki Genuine accessory of “Child seat, ISOFIX”"
Seating positions on page 2-41 of owner's manual. - Option of disconnecting the front passenger airbag:
"Do not install a child restraint system on the front passenger's seat." - Forward collision warning - NO
- AEB - car-to-car - NO
- AEB that detects vulnerable road users (pedestrians and cyclists) - NO
- Lane support systems - lane departure warning and lane keep assist - NO
- Rear cross-traffic alert - NO
- Multi-collision brakes - NO
- Pop-up hood - NO
Last edited by ron178 : 15th November 2021 at 10:45.
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