re: Who needs a safe car - an expert or a novice? Quote:
Originally Posted by nakul0888 I somehow don't get the point of this thread.
If in a family, if the guy is making most of the money, isn't it fair that he gets to have the more expensive car. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Consider this example, a guy has a budget to buy a known safe car and poorly built car. He can't stretch beyond this budget. He can
1) buy himself better car, gift his wife inferior car.
2) buy two inferior cars, and save some money.
3) gift the wife the better car, get himself inferior car
No. 2 is obviously a poor choice. Both are in unsafe cars. But there won't be any guilty feelings between the two.
No.1 is the one I agree with. The higher earning partner gets the better car. Be it wife or husband. They earned it, they work harder, they make more money, they are paying for it. Fair deal I would say.
No. 3 can be justified in a " I am sacrificing everything for my loved one " kind of thinking.
Personally I don't agree with it. If you are making most of the money in your house, you deserve to treat yourself to the stuff you want if you got the cash for it. But you should not neglect your partner. You should get him/her something "reasonable" too in case you don't have infinite money like Ambanis, which most people don't. This " reasonability" will differ from people to people. But there is no obligation on the higher earning partners to treat to the other the exact same amount of goodies that they are getting since they simply don't have the budget for it. If the other person disagrees with this even though he/she is being treated fairly then they are the ones who are being unreasonable.
In the aforementioned example the safest option for the wife since her husband CANNOT afford two good cars would be taking the public transport. I don't see any other reasonable way. No.3 would be unreasonable towards the husband in my opinion. |
I agree with JediKnight that valuing a person based on their earning capacity is quite shallow. There is an alternative, if you think about it a bit. You've mentioned option 2 as two inferior cars assuming that the two cars would have to be inferior to be equally priced. Well, one can get two VX MT Brios (ABS, Dual Airbags) for under 14L on road while I know of people that have spent a total of around 15L on two hatches - one top model at 10 and the other base model at 5.
Anyone considering two cars can afford two cars. Which ones they buy though reflects their order of priority. Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajeevraj The other factor is what the other party is comfortable with. For example my wife is not very comfortable driving our vento...
Does not make me look very good. | I know and appreciate your situation.
My argument has always been that even if the car gets damaged, it can be repaired or even replaced. A human being isn't replaceable, and I'd rather my family members stay undamaged as far as possible. Quote:
Originally Posted by JediKnight ABS actually increases braking distance in loose gravel/mud/sand.
ABS vehicle tend to be more difficult to control in such conditions.
ABS works best when the surface has high traction like tarmac.
But it is still good to have ABS because you likely to do high speeds on tarmac. |
The latest iterations of ABS have been tuned to react differently on sand/dirt/gravel/snow. The pulses "intelligently" become slower to allow build up of material in front of the wheels, thus negating the negative impact of ABS on such surfaces (double negative, sorry). Quote:
Originally Posted by JediKnight I think valuing a human being on "earning capacity" is very shallow.
I give priority to family over myself. I guess i am type 3 you mentioned. | Quote:
Originally Posted by nakul0888 When did I make a valuation out of anybody. What I described is fair. If you work hard you deserve to treat yourself. There is nothing wrong in that. You can live for your family and yourself too.
Besides in a family what the husband owns is also his wife's and his kids. Everybody knows that. Then why are some people shaming others for driving better cars than their wives. It's ridiculous.
You took what I said tooooo seriously and went tooooooo deep with it. |
Not really. You've said that the earning member should get a better vehicle. That's like saying the spouse doesn't deserve a better car because they don't earn. That's a very chauvinistic view of things. If the situation was reversed, and if a man were unemployed would he accept a basic vehicle while his wife drove a better car? (Leaving this open for each to answer honestly to themselves).
I'm not sure how else to explain things without sounding holier-than-thou, but this is a topic I feel strongly about. Another example from my more distant family. Husband drives to work in a Verna - 30 to 45 minute commute. Wife changes two buses to work, an hour+ each way.
The reason I feel strongly about this is because this attitude generally filters down to life in general. Wife works, but does the house work too. Cooks and packs two lunches in the morning, and does some housework in the evening. Husband "treats" wife to an occasional evening out - so she doesn't have to cook - and congratulates himself for being such a caring husband!
On a side note, my apologies if this topic was not the thread starter's intention. It just fits together in my mind. There is also no intentional finger pointing, I just want to highlight a flaw in our thinking in general. Also, I appreciate the contrary opinions even though I disagree strongly with some, because it is difficult to put ones' opinions out knowing that there will be opposing views.
Last edited by VeluM : 18th August 2015 at 21:04.
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