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Old 30th January 2025, 20:48   #1156
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Re: Road Rage - Understanding, Avoidance and De-escalating Situation

Look at this one-



Typical Indian driving scene. Each one looking to surge ahead, each one filling gaps, bikes hoping cars will 'accommodate' etc etc etc.

Car driver decides to go against the tide and decides not to accommodate a bike .

A small collision later, no one knows whom to blame .
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Old 5th February 2025, 10:06   #1157
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Rahul's footwork slightly went wrong maybe?!
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Old 5th February 2025, 10:32   #1158
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https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=S_kdxqZxcbM

Rahul's footwork slightly went wrong maybe?!
He's a thorough gentleman, and there's no sign of road rage from either party. So why is it in this thread?
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Old 7th February 2025, 15:05   #1159
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In Panipat, rowdy youths blocked the way of an ambulance; The vehicle was carrying a mother and child; they proceeded to assault, the staff locked the ambulance

https://www.bhaskar.com/local/haryan...134395497.html
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In Panipat, rowdy youths blocked the way of an ambulance...
Blocking an emergency vehicle should be treated as a serious criminal offence, not a simple civic traffic one. Minutes can make a life & death difference sometimes with ambulances, fire services, rescue vehicles etc.

Based on that video evidence, the idiots should be charged with endangering the life of the ambulance's occupants (on top of the usual drunk driving charges that apply). The patient(s) could've been in a time-sensitive critical condition, and threatening/intimidating an emergency service vehicle operator on active duty should be a whole different criminal offence on its own.
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Car driver decides to go against the tide and decides not to accommodate a bike .

A small collision later, no one knows whom to blame .
Observe closely, you will see that the car driver is also provoking this. He could have applied the brakes to avoid hitting him when he came too close. Unless he is new to driving, it was easily avoidable.
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Had an interesting experience recently, could have gone bad, but ended up ok, mostly because of luck. Hopefully I will learn from it.

Was picking up my wife from the Metro station, on the bike, heading back home when I saw an auto going the wrong way on a 2-lane road with a divider! Gave him a 'what the heck' hand gesture as I passed him. (Yes, I should not have.) The thug swerved a bit, nothing close but his intent was obviously to try and intimidate me as we passed each other. Both of us stopped a few meters away. He was swearing and gesturing, so was I (Again, yes, I should not have, I should have just ridden on.)

But I was pissed about the swerve and decided to stand my ground. The thug auto driver came back to where we were and got out of the auto. I parked my bike and got off too. I'm pretty sure that if I could not speak in Kannada, things would have gotten physical, but since I was giving back in (im)proper 'Bangalore Kannada', he already started to back-off. Anyway I was prepared to defend myself if he started swinging, I had my helmet and riding gloves to protect me.

But what the idiot didn't realize was that several people had already seen everything. And he was blocking traffic. One gent in an official-looking Merc with a driver got off and started abusing the auto driver in even 'better' Bangalore Kannada! He said he would complain to the control room as well. Another few people from the crowd started recording the auto driver and his license plate. Sensing the crowd was on my side, the thug drove away (this time going the right way!)

I realize it could easily have gone the other way. This guy looked like a real thug and he could easily have had a knife or a crowbar. I should have been more mature and responsible, especially since my wife was with me. I was stupid to even engage with someone breaking the law. If I wanted to make a difference, I should have just taken a pic and uploaded it.

Hopefully, lesson learned. It could easily have been a much more expensive lesson for me. (And I got it properly from my wife later too!)

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Had an interesting experience recently, could have gone bad, but ended up ok, mostly because of luck. Hopefully I will learn from it.

Hopefully, lesson learned. It could easily have been a much more expensive lesson for me. (And I got it properly from my wife later too!)

It’s often us - the working or middle class who eventually bears the brunt of everything that goes wrong—or could potentially go wrong—on our roads.

Yes, our blood boils. Yes, there are moments when we are pushed to the brink to step out of our vehicles, ready to give the other party a piece of our mind—or maybe even a couple of fists.
Yes, we often find ourselves distrusting the law and order system, unsure of whether it will help or protect us in a time of need.
Yes, we want to stand our ground and challenge the opposite party involved.

But, and this applies universally, we’re usually on our way to work OR with our family with us, OR simply put… we’re decent enough to not even consider making eye contact with the other party involved.

In my younger years, I was quick to stand my ground—whether it was dealing with wrong-side drivers/riders, rule-breaking bikers, or the general bullying from auto-rickshaw drivers.

I have always kept an iron rod, about two feet long, in my car—just in case if I need to defend myself or my family from an unfortunate situation on the road.

However, with time and an increased sense of responsibility towards my family, I have learned to avoid engaging with the opposite party in such confrontations. It hasn’t been easy, but it’s been a lesson in practice and patience.

Still, on those rare occasions, my blood does boil, but I let it go.

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(And I got it properly from my wife later too!)
This is the most dangerous part of the ordeal. Hence my moto in life is, when the wife is around be a good boy !! 28 years of being married is testament to that statement!

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I realize it could easily have gone the other way...
You never know what sets people off these days.

I was returning home after a late night airport drop-off this weekend. While taking an underpass underneath the ORR near Mysore Rd, two young fellows on a scooter coming in blind from the wrong side nearly crashed into my cab. All I did was make eye contact and raise my eyebrows (more in surprise than being confrontational), and the guy riding pillion was ready to throw hands.

Thankfully, my known cabbie had the sense to just drive off (and is a well-built hulk if things comes to it), but neither of us common folk wanted to indulge the rowdy kind.

'Saar, I could take both if it came to it, but they're probably drunk and will sleep tomorrow off after this. We both need to work tomorrow, and I can't afford damage to my car'.


Hard to disagree.

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Hard to disagree.
Absolutely. It is not our job anyway to police these thugs. I just wish the actual cops whose job it is would do theirs! Instead of victimizing the general public and street vendors.

But then again we know who really backs a lot of these thugs, especially rowdy auto drivers- the same people who are supposed to make our laws!

Frustrating.

But again, we need to be smarter as individuals and not risk life and limb on the road.

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If the authorities that are meant to maintain the law and order cant do anything, we shouldn’t let lawlessness prevail but stand our ground. If everyone starts turning a blind eye sadly there would be no hope.
I agree, but then again, if I was a 6-footer and built like a lifter, and with some karate skills it would be more realistic to take a stand like this. As it stands, I'm a skinny, middle-aged guy with glasses and the last time I had a physical fight was 20 years ago in college! So I guess I need to be more careful about starting something I can't finish. What we need in Bangalore is Batman! Or for cops to just do their damn job! Today the law-abiding fear the cops or getting involved with anything to do with visiting a station, those who break the law don't. Damn sad state of affairs.

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Absolutely. It is not our job anyway to police these thugs. I just wish the actual cops whose job it is would do theirs! Instead of victimizing the general public and street vendors.
Good that you stood your ground.

Cops not doing their jobs is leading to this vicious circle which emboldens these thugs.

If the authorities that are meant to maintain the law and order cant do anything, we shouldn’t let lawlessness prevail but stand our ground. If everyone starts turning a blind eye sadly there would be no hope. Agree to the point that you shouldn’t put others (aka family ) at risk.
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What we need in Bangalore is Batman!
Just yesterday Better Half was grumbling Bangalore is turning into Gotham

- From cracking infra, garbage on every empty space, non-existing walk-ways, to harassment of common Joe for every possible reason.
Cherry on cake is when home minister starts to say "Such incidents happen in Big Cities". I am sure he had Gotham in his mind while uttering such words
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The below video is a decent summary and analysis of the recent road rage incident between the IAF / DRDO officer and the local scooter fellow. It also showcases the cctv footage made available. What is missing is the actual verbal spat that started this (allegedly instigated by the local as raised in the FIR) and the car’s dashcam footage.

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Call centre employee arrested for assault on IAF official in Bengaluru road rage incident.
What's up with this one? I am seeing multiple videos on social media, but not getting the complete picture. So looks like the police have taken up a case, and first arrest is already made. Call centre employee was pretty badly beaten up, and now faces a police case as well.
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