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Originally Posted by markmytravel Suhaas, find my comments in bold below. We are not blaming Merc for the incident but for their negligence because life is precious and they or any of their dealers/service stations cannot take it easy. It is very much possible that service assistants are not trained and may have screwed up the security systems while servicing or the Merc is really shipping cars with faulty features. We just want the incident to be probed in detail and culprits (if any) should be punished. |
Mark,
I'm deeply saddened by your loss. It really is very tragic and completely uncalled for. I completely understand the pain you're going through. We have lost a few family members in the past few years, and it has been very hard for us to deal with, as it was very sudden.
However, you must understand, that my views and opinions have NO bias at all. What I'm trying to say is one cannot blame the car, for an accident that looked to have been caused by human error/error in judgement.
Now I do understand that a loss is hard to deal with, but are comments such as these justifiable? These comments might be from close family members, and it is, understandably, anger that's driving them to do this, but I'd like to know, is this the solution to the issue at hand?
I'm going to quote a few comments from the video:
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Ban Mercedes Benz... Company is the KILLER... They have to pay for the loss....
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we all hate mercedes-the killer car.......
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BAN MERCEDES BENZ......IT KILLED OUR BROTHER!!!!!
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mercedez sucks!!! they have killed my bro???? if the airbags wud have opened, this wudnt have happened
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No one can bring my brother back...
how can the air bags not open???... Mercedes has killed our brother...
BAN MERCEDES..THE KILLING MACHINE
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And that's not all, if you notice the suggestions on the right hand side, you'll see about 10 similar videos (essentially, videos of news feeds on TV), all with similar comments. What are they trying to achieve? Bad publicity will be forgotten in a matter of days. If they really want to make an impact, they must approach Mercedes and discuss the matter with attorneys present.
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Originally Posted by markmytravel So you are suggesting the airbags will only work when the target hits the bulls eye. Given the state of the vehicle, one can see the damage has been considerable so if the airbags did not open on such an impact, I don't see what else it will take. |
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Originally Posted by markmytravel I thought security systems are designed to work under disasters only and if you are suggesting they malfunctioned during a disaster that's where the problem is. At the time of buying, everyone claims their safety systems are world class so let Mercedes come up with a statement that airbags may malfunction in case of accident so buyer's can make their decisions. |
As far as I know, the steering-airbag will work only when the front bumper receives significant impact.
Yes, security systems are designed to work in the event of a disaster. Now if you look at the remains of the Mercedes in question, you will see that half of the driver's side has been ripped off. Now, when something like this happens, you can't expect electronically operated safety features to work. I mean, the shell of the car has been ripped off, and the shell is what keeps the occupants safe. The shell is what houses the safety equipment. So parts of the shell have been so severely damaged, there is little that electronics can do to save lives.
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Originally Posted by markmytravel Definitely many other factors and possibly others had more impact than the airbag. No one is denying the fact that the biggest reason is fate and bad luck and then the truck. But even if airbags not deploying played 0.1% part, the culprits should be punished because we are talking about life here. |
I agree, wholeheartedly!
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Originally Posted by markmytravel Accident's happen everywhere and it has nothing to do with India or any other nation, so let's stop blaming India and Indian road conditions for every accident that happens. No one wants to get into an accident for fun, it just happens by mistake and mistakes can happen anywhere and by anyone. |
No, Sir. Accidents do not happen everywhere. Accidents happen due to carelessness, bad luck and the inability to respect your surroundings. If you're careful and defensive in your approach, the chances of meeting with an accident are far far lesser. I will take the liberty to quote a statement that I'd made in my previous post:
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Originally Posted by suhaas307 They might have superior car control and what not, but by pushing the car to the limits, you're not only shortening the time you get to react to a sudden change of scene, you're creating chances for accidents to take place. |
Recently, there was a massive accident in Japan, involving over 10 exotic cars. All of them were presumably doing 200 km/h. The leader of the pack lost control after trying to over-correct a maneuver, and it caused a chain reaction, where all these exotic and luxury cars crashed into each other. Some of the cars have been mangled to pieces, but no lives were lost. Some of them suffered bruises and cuts.
if something like this were to have happened in India, I don't think some of hem would have made it out alive. It is because our roads are not designed for such driving in the first place. I'm sure these guys are safe drivers, but all it takes is one miscalculated move to throw everything out of control.
Yes, there have been instances where even safe drivers, who respect all rules and regulations, are unfortunately caught in the wrong place and at the wrong time. This is probably what happened to the Mercedes driver.
It is Indian road conditions that have contributed to such an accident. If the truck wasn't in the wrong lane and hadn't swerved, it would have been a different story.
Sir, you need to understand, that Indian driving conditions are hostile, and very unfavorable. There are scores of lives that are lost every day. India has the largest number of casualties due to road accidents. The number of lives lost on Indian roads are far greater than anywhere else in the World.
You probably know the attitude of the Indian driver, by now. But here is a short video that will help you understand what drivers on Indian roads think like:
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Originally Posted by markmytravel I really appreciate and respect your driving education but just feel that you are trying to show off your knowledge here. And even if a driver follows all the points you have mentioned above, there is no guarantee he will not get into an accident. So assuming the deceased was not following all the rules is not correct.
The point our family is raising here is if the airbags and safety features didn't activate in such a severe damage, who is to be blamed. We don't want to wait for someone to loose his life when meeting an accident at 30-40 speed because the air bag didn't activate. No one wants another family to loose their son, because the said safety features didn't work in an ordinary accident.
Mods: I am sorry to have been using such a language, so please feel free to delete this comment if you feel so. But its just my feeling and nothing personal against anyone. |
Your post is bordering on being offensive. But I'm not going to take offense to it.
I am 22 years old. I do not have the knowledge and experience that I'd otherwise love to have. I honestly have nothing to show off. Team BHP has given me a platform to exercise and put forth my views and opinions. And you're calling me a show-off, for that?
For one thing, I never mentioned that you will be completely safe and no harm will come your way if you practice these points. Accidents can happen at any time and can catch you by surprise. That's why, it's called an 'accident'. But if one practices these guidelines, the chances of meeting with an accident would be a lot less, is what I'm trying to say.