Re: Attention: New Maruti Suzuki Swift Brake Issue Quote:
Originally Posted by noopster Dear Lord, not that "put it in neutral before braking" debate again. There is a thread dedicated to that, please post there, guys. Kiran has a serious problem that seems to be shared across a lot of new Swift owners and these digressions will only take away from the main topic of discussion.
Incidentally, I have never driven a diesel car for any sustained period of time but from my limited experience, didn't notice any significant difference in the braking technique vis-a-vis petrol cars (which I've driven for nearly 20 years now). So what was that comment about him "braking like a petrol owner"? |
Dear Lord,
Why don't you try it practically in a swift diesel (pref prev gen) before you reply?
I am a swift owner with 73k driven - I am giving him a solution which works rather well in my experience at daily triple digit (or close enough) speeds.
Are you implying that because it is not something you have experienced, or because it doesn't intuitively agree with your experience - it is not an attempt to help him? Dear Lord! Please read!
I am just sharing what works for me every single day in the hope that he can use it right away. So what is your comment about? Dismissing it outright. Spare me. Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnrajdeep I shift to neutral or a lower gear when I feel the engine resist the braking which happens mostly due to the high torque and almost always at about 1000 rpm. |
Therefore, if you were to regularly drive in the turbo zone (again high torque) on the expressway - then we are in agreement. Quote:
Originally Posted by theexperthand May be it is because of my lack of experience, I have never felt the need of shifting to neutral while breaking. I have tried shifting to neutral and break, while costing to a stop, but some how, i feel more comfortable breaking in gear than in neutral.
I have done couple of long drives (including ghat sections) on couple of different petrol cars, but never felt any difference in breaking between petrol and diesel cars (90% of driving experience is on diesel cars, starting with our old Ambassador).
I think irrespective of the car being a diesel or petrol, breaks should provide adequate stopping power. There is no point in blaming different 'techniques' because 90% of these cars will be driven by common man (ie - non-petrol\diesel heads) and when they press break pedal, they will expect the car to come to a stop.
As @noopster have pointed out, "Kiran has a serious problem that seems to be shared across a lot of new Swift owners and these digressions will only take away from the main topic of discussion." |
Anoop, I agree on your basic premise - braking should be simpler for the common folk. However, again, why do you think my technique cannot be useful for Kiran?
Let me give u another data point - a female friend (non techie common driver) who TD'ed my swift complained about the absolutely shoddy braking compared to her santro. Thereafter I demo'ed my driving style - and now she drives her Ikon TDCi in a very similar fashion. Quote:
Originally Posted by suman Its a shame to hear about the poor braking in the lower variants of the new Swift, hope MSIL address this quickly. That kind of experience on a highway can be downright scary .
And now, before I forget all that I have learnt over three & a half decades of driving & braking in both Petrol & Diesel cars, I better get out of this thread! |
I would much rather that you either post a practical rebuttal than obliquely dismiss it without giving any logic. You're welcome for a demo anytime - maybe this way, you will actually attend one of our Gurgaon meets! Quote:
Originally Posted by govigov let us not get side tracked on "how" to brake.
is there any statistical data available for 100-0 time and distance for the gen 3 swift in any of the magazines? (w/o ABS and vis a vis time in Z spec).
+1 to suman, i might soon forget all the breaking techniques learnt so far! |
Snide comments aside, why is sharing my practical experience, a sidetrack? I am giving my experience that has worked in the previous generation of the same car and you are obliquely dismissing it like suman. Spare me the preaching.
As always, any disbelievers can always hitch a ride with me in Gurgaon anytime and I will gladly demonstrate it. Which is why I asked Spadix to post here! |