Team-BHP > Road Safety
Register New Topics New Posts Top Thanked Team-BHP FAQ


Reply
  Search this Thread
56,554,821 views
Old 20th December 2024, 12:46   #41566
Distinguished - BHPian
 
sagarpadaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 4,455
Thanked: 6,796 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by cuthbertcalc View Post
It was a lesson learnt with AMT cars. “ALWAYS SWITCH OFF THE ENGINE for any requirement even if it takes a few minutes for you to fulfil it and resume driving”
This is a implementation gap from Hyundai. Even if the car is in Drive, if the handbrake is engaged, the car should not crawl forward. This is how it is in my AMT Tiago. Even if a single notch is engaged on the handbrake, the car does not move forward. Same if the driver door is not closed/locked and if the gear level is in Drive, the car does not automatically move unless I press the accelerator.
sagarpadaki is offline   (9) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 11:44   #41567
Newbie
 
SID131's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2024
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 10
Thanked: 60 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Really unfortunate of what happened in Jaipur. But if the government does not step in to curb illegal parkings on the road more such accidents is bound to occur. The Jaipur incident due to its magnitude of mayhem, became a national news. Unreported small incidents occurs everyday specially on State highways where Trucks layover on the highway blocking the sides of the already narrow roads. In West Bengal this is rampant, as this is a thriving income opportunity for local syndicates, political goons and police. This is a kind of chicken and egg story going on for decades....Absence of Truck Stops constrains the Truck drivers to layover on open roads > Considerable income opportunity for local political parties > Absence of Government will to curb illegal parkings and provide alternatives for vehicle parking.
SID131 is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 15:02   #41568
BHPian
 
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Pune
Posts: 228
Thanked: 976 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by tbppjpr View Post
Very unfortunate disaster took place in Jaipur due to a LPG tanker blast causing fire in many cars, trucks busses and a sleeper coach with passengers. Many painful deaths are reported.

Praying for those fighting for life in the hospital.
Indeed its disaster however you won’t see any change in situation and the lives lost are immaterial for complete administration and politicians. No one can imagine horrific deaths and pain people have gone through where even the plastic inside the vehicles in 300 meter radius have melted.

Though partial ring road was made for Jaipur however they didn’t made clover leaf intersection of it with this major national highway so if one has to take ring road, U turn has to be taken where this happened.

Last edited by Axe77 : 22nd December 2024 at 08:55. Reason: Deleted last para. No political statements please, thank you.
FiatDiesel is offline   (11) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 16:29   #41569
BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Bombay
Posts: 300
Thanked: 1,516 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by tbppjpr View Post
Very unfortunate disaster took place in Jaipur due to a LPG tanker blast causing fire in many cars, trucks busses and a sleeper coach with passengers. Many painful deaths are reported.
Oh, this is terrible. We crossed that highway later that day and were wondering what had happened. We were told that the two tankers carrying gas had collided but there was no fire or such, and that highway closure was a precautionary measure. Clearly not.
ach1lles is offline  
Old 21st December 2024, 16:35   #41570
BHPian
 
chaitanyakrish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 481
Thanked: 3,209 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

A container truck fell over a Volvo Car near Nelamngala,Bangalore. All 6 passengers in the car are no more.

Accidents in India | Pics & Videos-screenshot-20241221-163337.png

This is a reminder that, Safe Roads+Safe Drivers+Safe Cars are essential for road safety.

https://newsable.asianetnews.com/kar...tch-snt-sou7lf
chaitanyakrish is offline   (17) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 16:58   #41571
BHPian
 
saikishor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: TS07||KA53
Posts: 904
Thanked: 4,686 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Never thought I would be posting on this thread again, but guess that is what life is. So here's the story:
I was on the ORR exit near the Gachibowli circle. My car's speed was approximately 60-70kph. I was slowing down gradually and I started to apply brakes. And then wham. I hit a car in front of me. After a second I realised I got tailgated. I stopped at the side to check what happened. The car in front of me was a Swift. And, I realised one of my old schoolmate was in that swift, after he got down. He, his dad and mom were there in the car and his dad was driving. Behind me I saw a Kia seltos stop, realised that was the car that banged into mine. The driver of the seltos told his slides got stuck in brakes, his feet were paining and all such nonsense. The talks started. My friend's dad and the guy started talking, while I quickly opened boodmo to see what parts and I figured out I would need atleast 15k for the repairs. I was ready to compromise, if the guy gave me an assurance of payment for repairs. He said he would call back in 2-3 hours. I asked for assurance, he said he gave his aadhar and mobile number, and couldnt give anything more than that. I was somewhat convinced and was ready to let go. I was horribly wrong. Read on.

My friend's dad was not ready to compromise, and he called the cops. Cops being cops behaved rudely and were of no help to us. We decided to go to the Gachibowli police station. We went there, and started to talk infront of cops. The cops at the police station were somewhat helpful. They understood that the mistake was that of the Kia seltos guy. The seltos guy was first ok to pay for damages, but after he came to the police station, he was like since now we are at PS things will be different, I have my contacts, I will only pay 2-3k etc etc. We wrote a complaint by that time but didnt submit it yet.

I asked my dad to come to the PS and he came in the meantime. My dad and me spoke to the seltos guy again. We cane to an agreement of 25k compensation i.e, 15k for my car and 10k for the swift. The guy told his nonsense like he sacrificed his gold recently for his father's panic attacks etc etc. He finally agreed for 25k, and said he would like to take a call. He went out of the PS, and thst was the end. I mean, before this he went out 2-3 times for calls but came back. This time he just fled. I called him multiple times. The first 2-3 calls I received this number is switched off message. 5 minutes later i got a message that the person is available to contact. Now when I call him I get this message saying the number does not exist. That was it. I lost it. I filed a compliant. The first ever police complaint of my life.

Moral: My judgement skills have always been poor and this is a further testament to that. I trust people easily, and guess I should somehow change from now.

The guy was just not accepting that he was at speed when he hit my car. He first fled the scene after we told him we are going to the police station. He fled with his car. He arrived 30 minutes later, saying his car's radiator was leaking and he was getting it towed. The car has a temporary registration, but I am 100% sure it is not a new car. When I opened the door, I saw a 95xx or 95xxx odo reading. The guy's aadhar had a 1999 DoB year, but when the cops asked him since how many years he was driving, he said from 12 years.

This incident truly broke my heart. 2024 was not really a nice year to me and this is the icing on the cake. My Beat has suffered a lot. For now, I see the following damages: rear left tail lamp broken, rear bumper broken, rear dikky door dented, front bumper broken, bonnet damaged, radiator/fan assembly bent. Heck the bonnet does not close now.

I have to see how much it will cost to get my Beat back into shape. I will also seriously consider a dashcam. I was under the impression that a dashcam was not really necessary for the minor dings that happen in city.

Attaching photos of the same. The Kia Seltos driver is the guy in a grey shirt with glasses. Feel he is a scamster at this point. He apparently does PR work for the Telangana Congress politician Uttam Kumar Reddy. Beware of such guys.


Edit: Just typed his temporary registration in TS echallan portal and saw the same plate on a black Harrier. No wonder why he didnt bring his car to the PS and fled the scene. Such horrible guys getting driving license and being allowed to drive is a shame honestly.

Drive safe peeps.
Saikishor

EDIT: Further update on this incident linked linked here
Attached Thumbnails
Accidents in India | Pics & Videos-pxl_20241221_124908612.jpg  

Accidents in India | Pics & Videos-pxl_20241221_124828080.jpg  

Accidents in India | Pics & Videos-pxl_20241221_125236269.jpg  

Accidents in India | Pics & Videos-pxl_20241221_125218280.jpg  


Last edited by Axe77 : 23rd December 2024 at 08:20.
saikishor is online now   (25) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 17:01   #41572
Senior - BHPian
 
deathwalkr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Trivandrum
Posts: 1,423
Thanked: 5,051 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish View Post
A container truck fell over a Volvo Car near Nelamngala,Bangalore. All 6 passengers in the car are no more.
This pic speaks volumes about the tragedy :(

What a way to go. I am always paranoid when vehicles bigger than me are on my side.
Attached Thumbnails
Accidents in India | Pics & Videos-gft5mpzxwaajmqy.jpeg  

deathwalkr is offline   (20) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 18:56   #41573
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Ahmedabad
Posts: 45
Thanked: 160 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by deathwalkr View Post
This pic speaks volumes about the tragedy :(

What a way to go. I am always paranoid when vehicles bigger than me are on my side.
I too get paranoid and alerted at the same time whenever I overtake a bus/truck from the side or even when I am behind them, I try to maintain more than required distance for an emergency brake. This is a such a painful image which just makes you sad and frustrated. What's even more annoying is how people online kept milking the myth that nobody dies in a Volvo XC90, It is the safest car. I heard this sentence from one of my colleague who is an automobile engineer himself in front of others. Such a tragic death :(
tofudriver is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 19:34   #41574
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Hayek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bombay
Posts: 2,032
Thanked: 16,969 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by saikishor View Post
He finally agreed for 25k, and said he would like to take a call. He went out of the PS, and thst was the end. I mean, before this he went out 2-3 times for calls but came back. This time he just fled
Glad all of you are safe and hope you can get your car back to shipshape. However, you have no right to ask the person for “compensation” even if it was entirely his fault. You can claim insurance or try to make a third party claim from the registered owner of the temp plate (could be a dealership which can use the same plate on multiple cars) - but the second option would take years to settle and hence does not make sense for relatively minor damage.
Hayek is offline   (14) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 19:35   #41575
BHPian
 
saikishor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: TS07||KA53
Posts: 904
Thanked: 4,686 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayek View Post
Glad all of you are safe and hope you can get your car back to shipshape. However, you have no right to ask the person for “compensation” even if it was entirely his fault. You can claim insurance or try to make a third party claim from the registered owner of the temp plate (could be a dealership which can use the same plate on multiple cars) - but the second option would take years to settle and hence does not make sense for relatively minor damage.
My car has suffered major damages, and hence I had to ask for compensation. Even if not entirely, atleast partially to which he agreed first but then fled. I doubt if that car has a valid registration, forget about insurance.
saikishor is online now   (2) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 19:59   #41576
BHPian
 
ashkamath's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Vasco-Goa
Posts: 955
Thanked: 3,562 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayek View Post
However, you have no right to ask the person for “compensation” even if it was entirely his fault. You can claim insurance or try to make a third party claim from the registered owner of the temp plate (could be a dealership which can use the same plate on multiple cars) - but the second option would take years to settle and hence does not make sense for relatively minor damage.
Nope, claiming from own insurance policy adversely affect the claim history of the car owner and he also has to forfeit the No claim bonus.

So, incurring a personal financial loss (losing NCB) for no fault is not acceptable. Hence, I believe I have all the right to claim compensation from the offender (either directly settled by the offender or paid through his insurance company as third party claim)

So, a feasible option is,

if another car hits and damages your car, you can claim compensation from the at-fault driver's insurance policy by filing a "third-party claim" with their insurance company; this means you are claiming damages from a party other than yourself, which is the driver who hit your car.

Key points to remember:
Gather information:
Get the other driver's insurance details, including the company name and policy number, after the accident.

Report the accident:
Inform your own insurance company about the accident, and if necessary, file a police report.

Prove fault:
To successfully claim, you need to demonstrate that the other driver was at fault for the accident.

Claim process:
Contact the other driver's insurance company and submit the necessary documents like repair estimates and police report to initiate the claim process.

Last edited by ashkamath : 21st December 2024 at 20:05.
ashkamath is offline   (13) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 20:05   #41577
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Hayek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bombay
Posts: 2,032
Thanked: 16,969 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by saikishor View Post
My car has suffered major damages, and hence I had to ask for compensation. Even if not entirely, atleast partially to which he agreed first but then fled. I doubt if that car has a valid registration, forget about insurance.
But the point is you have no right to compensation from him - definitely not on a spot basis. The process mentioned in the next post is the way to do it - get the police to note down his license details and insurance details, make a third party claim, and wait for 5-10 years for the claim to be settled.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ashkamath View Post
if another car hits and damages your car, you can claim compensation from the at-fault driver's insurance policy by filing a "third-party claim" with their insurance company; this means you are claiming damages from a party other than yourself, which is the driver who hit your car.

Key points to remember:
Gather information:
Get the other driver's insurance details, including the company name and policy number, after the accident.

Last edited by Hayek : 21st December 2024 at 20:07.
Hayek is offline   (7) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 20:18   #41578
BHPian
 
ashkamath's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Vasco-Goa
Posts: 955
Thanked: 3,562 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayek View Post
But the point is you have no right to compensation from him - definitely not on a spot basis. The process mentioned in the next post is the way to do it - get the police to note down his license details and insurance details, make a third party claim, and wait for 5-10 years for the claim to be settled.
I am a Surveyor by profession with over 35 years experience and I can say with confidence that waiting for 5-10 years for claim settlement is far fetched. Times have changed. There's Motor vehicle tribunal, the insurance company ombudsman and the final authority, the IRDA. If the appropriate documents and proof is submitted, no insurance company will drag their feet in these matters. The claim process has to be expedited as per set time line guidelines.

Let me explain, as a Marine Hull Surveyor, when ever a Marine (boat) claim is assigned to me, I have to mandatorily submit a preliminary survey report within 7 days of my appointment and the final survey report within 1 month, provided the insured submits all the necessary documents to me. If there's a delay from my end, I have to answer the insurance company and provide the reason for delay and if my reason is not acceptable, then the company can remove me from their panel for incompetency and delay.

This is the message I received from the insurance company yesterday morning for a boat claim wherein the insured boat capsized in Zuari river in Goa on 13th December, and I surveyed the same on 15th December.

<Quote>
Marine Hull Claim 1205xxxxxccccc / 1205002xxxxxxx Interim Report to be submitted within 20/12/2024 is pending. Ignore if done-Team United India
<Unquote>

The insurance process is digitized now and streamlined. The process is quick and settlement/ repudiation is quick too. There's a lot of competition in Insurance industry that complacency is no longer tolerated nor accepted. I am just stating the above from my 35 years spent as surveyor. There's a vast difference as to how the claim process was earlier times and now.

Last edited by ashkamath : 21st December 2024 at 20:25.
ashkamath is offline   (49) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 21:33   #41579
BHPian
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: New Delhi / Singapore
Posts: 119
Thanked: 194 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish View Post
A container truck fell over a Volvo Car near Nelamngala,Bangalore. All 6 passengers in the car are no more.

Attachment 2701551

This is a reminder that, Safe Roads+Safe Drivers+Safe Cars are essential for road safety.

https://newsable.asianetnews.com/kar...tch-snt-sou7lf
With all the safety videos, crash tests, and the cult status of XC90 as a safe car, I’d have found the missing roof hard to believe without the pictures.

In fact I think there’s a video where they did tilt a truck on the car roof to show the pillar strength, but I’m just not able to find that particular one.

In this case at least, I’m not sure if the car could get any safer.
ricky_speed is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 21st December 2024, 22:13   #41580
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Thad E Ginathom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chennai
Posts: 11,435
Thanked: 29,974 Times
Re: Accidents in India | Pics & Videos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayek View Post
But the point is you have no right to compensation from him - definitely not on a spot basis. ...
Why not? If someone has caused damage to another, surely they have the right to demand payment. Surely, the existence of insurance does not preclude that, but provides a safety-net option.

My understanding, which might be wrong, is that many people prefer to settle on the spot, and nothing stops them doing so. One can always ask!
Thad E Ginathom is online now   (16) Thanks
Reply

Most Viewed


Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks