[h@r$h@l]

A friend just uploaded this pic on FB. Seems the driver lost control while parking or probably hit the Acc instead of Brakes.

A good way to beat the Q at a Sale



Regards,

[n_naik]

Saw this swift today when i visited the maruti workshop for getting my car serviced.

This is a zxi variant swift. The passenger cabin is almost intact inspite of such a terrible crash.

[hrman]

Originally Posted by n_naik

Saw this swift today when i visited the maruti workshop for getting my car serviced.

This is a zxi variant swift. The passenger cabin is almost intact inspite of such a terrible crash.

Wow!! The steering has become horizontal almost looks like an Omni's steering. Hope that the passengers were safe

[sourabhzen]

Five of a family burnt alive near Faridabad after a crash. It indeed is very sad.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/f...e-otherstories.

God give strength to relatives.

[jesrani]

Originally Posted by sourabhzen

Five of a family burnt alive near Faridabad after a crash. It indeed is very sad.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/f...e-otherstories.

God give strength to relatives.

Was just about to post this article. Very sad news indeed.

However it is a bit disturbing to read that the CNG cylinder (in the car I assume) leaked and there was an immediate blaze. I had never thought this can happen in CNG, I thought it was safe.

[sourabhzen]

Originally Posted by jesrani

However it is a bit disturbing to read that the CNG cylinder (in the car I assume) leaked and there was an immediate blaze. I had never thought this can happen in CNG, I thought it was safe.

TOI reported this to be a LPG car. If its true then it is sad again to know how people can risk lives of themselves as well as their dear ones in order to save some money.

[damanshaheed]

Originally Posted by jesrani

Was just about to post this article. Very sad news indeed.

However it is a bit disturbing to read that the CNG cylinder (in the car I assume) leaked and there was an immediate blaze. I had never thought this can happen in CNG, I thought it was safe.

according to the TOI report the fire was not immediate, but ignited after about 30 minutes. due to lack of emergency services, the people present on the spot could not take out the victims as the central locking jammed. fire services arrived at the scene 40 minutes later. real sad turn of events, considering a gas cutter could have save all five lives.

R.I.P.

[speedsatya]

Originally Posted by damanshaheed

according to the TOI report the fire was not immediate, but ignited after about 30 minutes. due to lack of emergency services, the people present on the spot could not take out the victims as the central locking jammed. fire services arrived at the scene 40 minutes later. real sad turn of events, considering a gas cutter could have save all five lives.

R.I.P.

Why would leaking gas take 30 mins to ignite . Could also be leaking fuel.

[jesrani]

Originally Posted by sourabhzen

TOI reported this to be a LPG car. If its true then it is sad again to know how people can risk lives of themselves as well as their dear ones in order to save some money.

Makes more sense. Always thought LPG can ignite more easily than CNG. If it is indeed the case, hope NDTV makes the correction on their website.

Originally Posted by damanshaheed

according to the TOI report the fire was not immediate, but ignited after about 30 minutes. due to lack of emergency services, the people present on the spot could not take out the victims as the central locking jammed. fire services arrived at the scene 40 minutes later. real sad turn of events, considering a gas cutter could have save all five lives.

R.I.P.

It is also alarming to note that "central locking jammed"? How to avoid this. Normally I open one of the locks, preferably on my side (driver's) after the auto central lock is effected. In case of the collision would this lock stay open or get locked automatically? Like airbags getting deployed in case of an accident, locks also should open on impact.

[carwatcher]

Why are T-BHPians failing to mention again and again that the car involved is Santro. I understand that newspapers have vested interests in doing so but why here.
WRT central locking mechanism jamming in Santro, Wagon-R and other popular car models is as common as it gets. Even in brand new cars these accidents (fire-Cenral lock jamming-owner dies) are numerous.
IMHO ARAI must make it mandatory to provide a hammer (same as for Fire prevention systems in the building) fixed on the front right door pocket.

[sourabhzen]

Originally Posted by carwatcher

Why are T-BHPians failing to mention again and again that the car involved is Santro. I understand that newspapers have vested interests in doing so but why here.

IMHO ARAI must make it mandatory to provide a hammer (same as for Fire prevention systems in the building) fixed on the front right door pocket.

I think we were shocked by the nature of the deaths than the car involved.

I am terrified by the news and I like your suggestion of providing safety hammer as standard. However, I am looking for one on net since morning. I will order two of them by today positively for my safety. Till then I will like to trust the metal pin of the gear lock to serve the purpose. I am also considering fire extinguishers for the cars as they keep them in the cabs.

[carwatcher]

Originally Posted by sourabhzen

I think we were shocked by the nature of the deaths than the car involved.

This topic has been discussed in detail on Vehicles catching fire in India.
WRT fire extinguishers, they are of no use in a situation like this. If you want to use it in engine bay, you should be able to open the door first. Then comes the ability to douse such big fire.
So the summary of the discussion is that, despite so many technological advances, the conventional tool (and weapons) like hammer are more reliable just like in any hi-fi, sci-fi, 007, etc. movies where the villain after running out of bullets finally uses hammer, knife, etc. in the end. Same thing applies for car.

[n_naik]

Originally Posted by carwatcher

So the summary of the discussion is that, despite so many technological advances, the conventional tool (and weapons) like hammer are more reliable just like in any hi-fi, sci-fi, 007, etc. movies where the villain after running out of bullets finally uses hammer, knife, etc. in the end. Same thing applies for car.

When i got my car, i opted for the base version (Swift Lxi) pretty much for the same reason. The Mumbai rain havoc of 2005 July was still fresh in my memory. I had read about how central locking, power windows of many cars failed due to the flood water damaging the electricals of the car and people got stuck and many lost their lives etc etc.

So got myself a car which didnt have any of these. But after a couple of months, got only the central locking installed due to the insistence of my friends.
I feel, in the unlikely event of such a failure of electical controls, i might still stand a chance of escaping since i can lower my windows and get out of the car.

[damanshaheed]

Originally Posted by jesrani

It is also alarming to note that "central locking jammed"? How to avoid this. Normally I open one of the locks, preferably on my side (driver's) after the auto central lock is effected. In case of the collision would this lock stay open or get locked automatically? Like airbags getting deployed in case of an accident, locks also should open on impact.

Yes it indeed is alarming. There have been quite a few similar instances when victims have been burnt alive in their vehicles because the central locking jammed. I was thinking on your lines, but the downside is that if the doors get unlocked on impact, there is a greater chance of the passengers being thrown out of the vehicle on impact. I think a better thing to do, like we do in our rally cars, is to have a cut out switch for the electrical system. No current, no spark, no fire. although not foolproof, but definitely safer and does not cost much to do.

[vikram_d]

Originally Posted by n_naik

So got myself a car which didnt have any of these. But after a couple of months, got only the central locking installed due to the insistence of my friends.

The swift has a mechanical lock and not an electric one. The connection from the door handle to the locking mechanism is a mechanical one and this can only get jammed if the door has taken a hit. It cannot get jammed if the electrical power in the car fails.