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Originally Posted by AutoIndian
(Post 2653883)
The deceased has been identified as Salma Abbas Vakharia (66) while the injured are Abbas Vakharia (73), Huzaifa Vakharia (40), Meshram Sanai (35) and Shivkumar Kardilkar (31), all residents of Dhankawadi. Police said that Huzaifa was at the wheel and Salma, his mother, was in the passenger seat while father Abbas and their two employees were sitting in the rear seat. Huzaifa is a building construction contractor. In the picture below you can imagine how severe the head-on impact would have been. The feather lite Wagon-R hitting a truck head-on with tonnes of load on it (virtually an immovable concrete wall), the front of the car completely smashed. Perhaps a car with air-bags would have helped reduce the human damage. Attachment 874852 The second picture below showing how the truck intended to cross the E-way through the illegal break in the median & the broken E-way compound wall on the right top corner of the picture |
Originally Posted by F150
(Post 2653890)
the cabin seems to be intact, how were the injuries lethal ? |
Originally Posted by mayankk
(Post 2653846)
clap: say what? "no sir, this leak is for air. I, Nitrogen, will not go through here!Never." I wonder how people come to believe such stuff! |
Originally Posted by torquecurve
(Post 2653414)
I have recently had a lot of discussions with my friends who claim to have 'Nitrogen' in their tyres and so do not need to check it regularly as it does not leak. I believe this is also a reason for tyre bursts. Also, PLEASE check your tyre pressures when the tyres are 'cold'. Ideally within 2 kms of driving in the early morning. ... A guage costs about a 100-200 bucks. Check it before you start on every monday. If required go to the 'nearest' tyre shop pay 10 bucks and get the air filled, remember to use your own guage. |
Originally Posted by honeybee
(Post 2653900)
Good points! Though nitrogen may be cooler than the ordinary air, it's beyond understanding how it cannot leak the same way as the air. Perhaps we should ask these users if the nitrogen will not escape if the tyre punctured. The other problem with filling nitrogen seems to be not every tyre shop is equipped with nitrogen filling. And so people may tend to avoid filling up normal air in a tyre inflated with nitrogen. About a tyre guage, it's difficult to procure one that's reliable. I have been asking almost all the tyre shops (branded tyre sellers as well as roadside shops) for a reliable gauge but few are ready to procure one, while each of them do seem to use either analog or digital guages. Anyways, I believe continuing this discussion on the Accident Pics thread may not be right. |
Originally Posted by mayankk
(Post 2653846)
clap: say what? "no sir, this leak is for air. I, Nitrogen, will not go through here!Never." I wonder how people come to believe such stuff! |
Originally Posted by torquecurve
(Post 2653414)
I have recently had a lot of discussions with my friends who claim to have 'Nitrogen' in their tyres and so do not need to check it regularly as it does not leak. I believe this is also a reason for tyre bursts. Underinflation results in the tyre heating up very quickly. A properly inflated tyre will have lower temperature which means it is safer. To prove this, I checked the tyres of my friends car, who fills 'only nitrogen' and checks every 3 months. It was more than a month since he last checked. I used my pressure guage (which is tested against 3 other guages to ensure it shows right pressure). My tyre was at 32 psi. His was a dangerous 25 psi (Santro). At high speeds this can be dangerous for sure. Also, PLEASE check your tyre pressures when the tyres are 'cold'. Ideally within 2 kms of driving in the early morning. Most of us check tyre pressure at the pump on non calibrated machines. A guage costs about a 100-200 bucks. Check it before you start on every monday. If required go to the 'nearest' tyre shop pay 10 bucks and get the air filled, remember to use your own guage. |
Originally Posted by AutoIndian
(Post 2653883)
News: Courtesy Pune Mirror: On Friday there was this horrible accident on Mumbai-Pune Expressway. Gahunje Stadium developers’ game of hide-and-seek with authorities — illegally breaching the E-way so their trucks can take short cut to construction site — claimed life of woman driving on the correct side ] |
Originally Posted by RIC.BURNS I think we should get our facts right. Filling Nitrogen is not that bad as you guys describe. It definitely has its own advantages over air, the molecules of Nitrogen are larger than oxygen thus providing a more stable inflation. more stable under temperature fluctuations hence maintaining a more consistent inflation pressure and it has less moisture (no combination of water vapor+oxygen) and hence less corrosive. I have personal experiences, my swift used to stand in sunlight all day and with just air it lost around couple of psi almost every week but with nitrogen i have found myself surprised many times. I have last checked my punto after a month, guess what it remains same pressure. Be it nitrogen or air you have to maintain a constant tyre pressure, that is the only way to keep the car safe and stable at speeds wrt to tyres. check this out Nitrogen vs Air In Tires - Why Nitrogen in Tires - Popular Mechanics |
Originally Posted by AutoIndian
(Post 2653883)
News: Courtesy Pune Mirror: On Friday there was this horrible accident on Mumbai-Pune Expressway. Gahunje Stadium developers’ game of hide-and-seek with authorities — illegally breaching the E-way so their trucks can take short cut to construction site — claimed life of woman driving on the correct side |
Originally Posted by a_myth
(Post 2654036)
I still cant understand how authorities cant still understand the basics of highway safety even after so many accidents. It is very clear from the photographs that the truck driver was to be blamed for the whole incident. Also, the highway authorities turning a nelson eye to the illegal route taken by the construction contractor ..................... 1. Highway users come from all parts of the society. Bullock carts, tractors, overloaded passenger jeeps and the usual traffic share the same roads. Problem is when some ignorant idiots use the one way route as shot cuts to save fuel and drive onto oncoming traffic. THIS MUST STOP AT ALL COSTS................. |
Originally Posted by AutoIndian
(Post 2653883)
News: Courtesy Pune Mirror:... ...Yet the car could not stop within desired distance, it being loaded with 5 passengers didn't help either |
Originally Posted by a_myth
(Post 2654036)
I still cant understand how authorities cant still understand the basics of highway safety... ...3. Indians in general are ignorant about the safety features of their vehicles. Highway driving demands a lot from the driver and also from the vehicle. It is evident from the photos, that a car with high crash safety rating+ABS+Airbags could have fared better... I dont know how many innocent people will have to be sacrificed before the concerned authorities and we Indians in general wake up. |
Originally Posted by harit
(Post 2654139)
This post is important, but who is listening?... Cheers harit |
Originally Posted by rajeev k
(Post 2654148)
Yes driving against oncoming traffic in Highways leave aside... ...Though roads have improved by leaps and bounds the behaviour of a lot of drivers have deteriorated manifold. |
Originally Posted by RIC.BURNS
(Post 2653968)
I think we should get our facts right. Filling Nitrogen is not that bad as you guys describe. |
Originally Posted by suhaas307
(Post 2654245)
2) It's high-time car companies stop short-changing the Indian customer and offer airbags and ABS as standard-equipment on all cars, irrespective of the price of the car and the segment. People might be willing to save a few tens of thousands and acquire a car without these features, but it must be made mandatory, even if it's at a cost. After all, you can't put a price on people's lives! And that's what car-companies are doing. |
Originally Posted by suhaas307
(Post 2654245)
2) It's high-time car companies stop short-changing the Indian customer and offer airbags and ABS as standard-equipment on all cars, irrespective of the price of the car and the segment. People might be willing to save a few tens of thousands and acquire a car without these features, but it must be made mandatory, even if it's at a cost. After all, you can't put a price on people's lives! And that's what car-companies are doing. I wouldn't say that it's entirely their fault. It's the people who make the car companies what they are in the Indian market, today. They want what they want, and the companies are only happy to oblige. |
Originally Posted by a_myth
(Post 2654280)
... vehicles having features such as ABS, Airbags and EBD, etc in view of their safety standards are charged less towards YEARLY INSURANCE COVER. |
Originally Posted by a_myth
(Post 2654280)
On expressways, such vehicles should to allowed some concessions towards toll charges. |
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