Originally Posted by anjan_c2007 (Post 1732522)

Feel these Japanese and Korean cars are the worst when it comes to withstanding impacts.Even the Indian built Tata cars are way ahead of these ductile cars from the Far East as far as the build quality goes.

Originally Posted by wildon (Post 1731829)

Witnessed this accident between Karwar - Hubli highway near a place called SUNKAL. It was happened on 12th Feb around 12 in the afternoon, i heard a loud noise ahead of me. It was a horrific scene.

3 is believed to be dead on the spot as no one was attempted to take out the bodies including a dump local police person. After i made some noises he allowed me to check . I checked the pulse of the mother and a small kid and there was no sign of life. I was not able to find or check the father who was driving as the metal plates were jammed on to him.

Behind this car (lancer) one more car were accompanying them (Ambassador) in which the grand dad (i believe) and the second son of the victims were travelling. I called up the ambulance they were saying it has to come from Hubli.

The sad thing was no one was willing to help including the Police person.

The mom and kid were sitting at front without wearing the seat belt. and i strongly believes a seat belt could have saved the lady as her head slammed in to the dash board.

I'm only attaching two pictures as other shots are so disturbing as the victims were still on the car.

Originally Posted by csentil (Post 1732662)

Any car (Japanese, Korean, German, American...) when involved in an accident at 110 kmph is not going to survive the crash especially against a bus!!! Please remember that Lady Diana died in a car crash and she was in a Benz!!!

One of the features of most cars is to absorb the energy from the crash and dissipate it on the body of the car. So the car will buckle, break, crumple rather than passing on the energy to the passengers.

Originally Posted by csentil (Post 1732662)

Any car (Japanese, Korean, German, American...) when involved in an accident at 110 kmph is not going to survive the crash especially against a bus!!! Please remember that Lady Diana died in a car crash and she was in a Benz!!! .

Originally Posted by wildon (Post 1731829)

Witnessed this accident between Karwar - Hubli highway ... 3 is believed to be dead on the spot ...

I checked the pulse of the mother and a small kid and there was no sign of life. I was not able to find or check the father who was driving as the metal plates were jammed on to him.

Behind this car (lancer) one more car were accompanying them (Ambassador) in which the grand dad (i believe) and the second son of the victims were travelling.
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Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez (Post 1733195)

Oh dear. Every single panel on that 800 is damaged. Rollover?

Originally Posted by sidindica (Post 1734044)

I don't know but its becoming a habit for me to see a Verna CRDI in a mangled heap every second or third day. Why?

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Originally Posted by AyAn! (Post 1731969)

The lives of the passengers are in their own hands,not the government's.It not possible for the government to make each and every driver/passenger buckle up against their own will.The best they can do is increase awareness.
The rest is in our hands.

Originally Posted by khoj (Post 1732004)

The rules are already in place, but as long as our attitudes do not change we will have people who will go along with your view point.

At the end of the day it is the people on the road who end up injured, dead or losing their loved ones and to the government it is just one person less amongst a 100 crore = does not matter.

Originally Posted by YC.BALENO.CHD (Post 1732072)

+1.
How can we put blame on government for our casual behaviour? For how long can government teach people about their own safety? We have had enough of "wear helmet" and "wear seatbelts" campaigns. I guess every driver in India knows that wearing seatbelt is for his/her own safety, so even if he does not knows about the laws that should not keep him from wearing seatbelts.
Also, DLs are issued to 'adults'. Citizens who are deemed to responsible enough to vote and to enjoy all the civic ammenities. So, should government expect behaviour akin to high school kids from such adults?
Is government merely a nanny who should teach us adults about our own safety? At the end, it is us who are involved in a mishap and 99 times out of 100 its due to our fault. Our on-road behaviour should be put to blame more often than blaming the government for poor roads. Laws are all in place, its on to us to put them to good use. As for the 'government', even that body consists of citizens like us its not as if the laws are written in the Holy Bible.
If it is 'people' as government that can construct such laws then it is the same 'people' who are bound to follow them.
Merely making laws and enforcing them is not the need of the hour rather its high time for all the road users to realise that their lives are at risk and they should protect them rather than leaving it all to the government.

Take this case as an example, if a person has enough money to travel in a Lancer (which is a 'big' car in India), can any of us vouch for the fact that he or his family was unaware of the utility of seatbelts? Sure, whatever happened was tragic and its not that am not sad for the grief stuck family, but in the end if they would had not be so casual towards their own safety perhaps one of them may have been alive at the moment.

Sorry for the long post, got carried away but I stand by the fact that government should not be blamed for such mishaps atleast after some extent. When, government can identify us as adults and responsible enough to drive, its not wrong in considering us matured enough to care about our own safety if not of other road users.


Regards.

Originally Posted by sj_koova (Post 1732089)

Absolutely wrong statement friend.
If an individual can't take responsibility of himself, how can he blame government.
Considering India's population, I don't think government will be concerned at all.
And there is certainly a practical difficulty in countries like India to ensure everyone follows rule.

Feel sad for the occupants of the Lancer. May not be their mistake at all.

Originally Posted by Spitfire (Post 1732095)

Guys, I think akshay_b was being a bit sarcastic, he doesnt mean it.

RIP to the Lancer guys and dude it needs guts to feel the pulse of victims in such accidents. Good that you tried to help, may your tirbe grow.

Originally Posted by sbraj (Post 1732855)

wildon, it takes a lot of courage to do what you did. :thumbs up

I just pray that the second son who survived gets enough strength to face the situation. How old is he?