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Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad
(Post 5291088)
The question being asked is whose fault is this?
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My first thought was that it is not an accident but an intentionally caused road rage incident.
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Originally Posted by MaheshY1
(Post 5291325)
While some form of penalty is also justified for the Seltos driver, snatching the DL or putting them in jail is not the solution.
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Look at how that vehicle was being driven, even as it was coming down the flyover. That driver has no place on the roads - they need to be taken off asap, hopefully permanently. I'd argue for some jail time too for causing that accident.
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Originally Posted by N.A.GTC
(Post 5291906)
What I mean is, if a car (here SX4) is drifting out of its lane, the proper response from those following/overtaking it (here the Kia) needs to be to brake, not to try to squeeze through the decreasing gap.
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Unfortunately, this very logical and basic step is never followed and one of the most common reason for accidents.
If the driver finds his lane to be blocked for access, the reaction is an immediate swerve onto the other lane, without even look at the rear view mirror.
The reaction time for drivers on the other lanes is next to NIL in such cases, causing it to be a deadly scenario. High time lane discipline gets enforced.
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Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad
(Post 5291088)
The question being asked is whose fault is this?
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The problem is lot of people drive a four-wheeler with a mind set of two-wheeler. Try to skew and squeeze into a non existent gap (for a four-wheeler), form a third line in-between two cars minding their own lane.
At least I see the Seltos doing the same thing here.
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Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad
(Post 5291088)
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From the clip, it is Seltos and it seemed that the driver was in hurry. However, to see whether SX4 was purposely not allowing the Seltos to overtake, we need to see videos from previous square. It could be both and just not Seltos. Traffic police should fine the offender(s) for rash driving.
This is my first post on my favourite forum, Team-BHP. :) Excuse me for any mistakes. It's like a monkey dancing in front of Hanuman.
The biker is riding with a single hand, mostly on the phone. He is perhaps saved by the gap.
The white car (Creta?)'s direction is towards right median and he has no indicator turned on to show his intention to fellow drivers, again the biker behind is saved due to gap between bike and car.
The unlucky biker is too close in fast moving traffic with people picking lanes randomly. Finally it's the fault of the Seltos driver, he missed the basic MSM routine before changing lanes.
I'm a newbie, please correct me, if i am wrong :)
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Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad
(Post 5291088)
The question being asked is whose fault is this?
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Reminds of something read during schooldays, titled “Whose Job Is It, Anyway?” (available in many websites, so not posting any particular link).
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This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody. There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
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People coming from the flyover are drifting lanes thinking others will brake, but the others also drift lanes as if cascading the effect. Those coming from below the flyover drift lanes in the opposite direction.
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Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad
(Post 5291088)
The question being asked is whose fault is this?
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It seems that there is a curve just after where this accident happened. Why was that Indica, or what ever car that was, moving towards the left? There is no apparent reason to do that. It crowded the Seltos and the dude driving the Seltos said, "I dont move for anyone!" and promptly took the biker out.
The white car and the Seltos are both to blame for this accident.
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Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad
(Post 5291119)
I was thinking the same. He is definitely at fault, but then I also looked at the lane markings! Truly hilarious way to mark roads. They separate, diverge and converge within 100 meters. lol:
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Originally Posted by anandhsub
(Post 5291206)
Whats with those lane markings? Have never seen markings split up like train tracks on roads. It seems deliberate and not some wrong alignment of new markings with old ones.
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Originally Posted by vnabhi
(Post 5291215)
And on top of it, the confusing lane markers have contributed to the accident.
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Originally Posted by MaheshY1
(Post 5291325)
Fair assessment. It looks like the divider is also taking a sharp turn judging by some reflective white paint in the bottom of the screen.
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Originally Posted by sunikkat
(Post 5291841)
But cream of it all is the markings on the road - its like get down from the flyover, solve the marking riddle and then drive on, if you are able to rl:
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Agree with all of you about the comments on the lane markings. Ludicrous to say the least.
BUT, since when have road users in our country paid heed to these markings on the road anyway? Even if they where perfectly fine and apt, you will still see cars and bikes drift across them without a care in the world! :)
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Originally Posted by Yusha
(Post 5293031)
It seems that there is a curve just after where this accident happened. Why was that Indica, or what ever car that was, moving towards the left? There is no apparent reason to do that.
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Watching that clip it appears to me something is seriously wrong with the alignment of that road. Look at the point the flyover lands and then at the bottom of the screen
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Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad
(Post 5291088)
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Between 9 and12 seconds of the video, the scene unfolds very clearly.
- The SX4 seems to be in a hurry, cutting lanes on the flyover, deliberately aligning to the lane marker and not to the middle of the lane. Bad driving habit and likely confusion due to the rangoli on the road.
- The Seltos is obviously in a rush, and takes a bad judgement call on the gap it has to overtake the bike while squeezing aside the SX4.
- There are 2 Innovas that are merging in to the highway. Both are doing it at an aggressive angle, not paying heed to what's coming at them from the side & back.
- The bike seems oblivious to both the lanes and the traffic behind and beside it.
There are lot of things going wrong at once and could have been much worse.
However, my question is this - If the Seltos hadn't done what it did, would the accident happened? Likely not.
So, I am going to put the blame on this incident on the reckless driving and bad judgement of the Seltos driver.
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Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad
(Post 5292091)
Chennai.
Policeman needs better protection and equipment before they try to stop a speeding vehicle.
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Hope no major injury to the cop. While I agree that there should be a safer way to pull over vehicles. This is also a strong reason why automation should be brought in to trap violations like jumping signal/overspeeding etc.
Only in the exceptional cases where some intervention is needed a proper checkpoint is created with barricades to slow down the flow, like is done during election time.
On the Bangalore-Hyd highway, I see multiple places till Nandi hills, where the cop tries to get on to the highway (almost on the middle lane of an NH !). It is surprising that no one has gotten hit till now. Now, this is with an interceptor with speed gun flagging the violators. Unless the cops wanted to settle the bill "unofficially", I see no reason why the cop needs to risk his life.
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Originally Posted by whitewing
(Post 5293187)
Hope no major injury to the cop. While I agree that there should be a safer way to pull over vehicles. This is also a strong reason why automation should be brought in to trap violations like jumping signal/overspeeding etc.
Only in the exceptional cases where some intervention is needed a proper checkpoint is created with barricades to slow down the flow, like is done during election time.
On the Bangalore-Hyd highway, I see multiple places till Nandi hills, where the cop tries to get on to the highway (almost on the middle lane of an NH !). It is surprising that no one has gotten hit till now. Now, this is with an interceptor with speed gun flagging the violators. Unless the cops wanted to settle the bill "unofficially", I see no reason why the cop needs to risk his life.
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I have been pulled over and fined by the same interceptors. Now that I know, I keep a watch after Devanhalli while going to Bangalore.
Another video of overconfident driving at high speed from Lonavala:
https://youtu.be/y5OMwjLz_hQ
One from Surat, I don't know what happened here!
https://youtu.be/ca2OmMqNCwg
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Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad
(Post 5293198)
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My guess:
the driver accelerated while steering -> slight oversteer (RWD)-> overcorrection by driver -> BLD kicks in -> car goes straight as soon as it grips -> Quick jump over median -> slow roll.
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Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad
(Post 5293198)
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Classic example of high GC atrocities that are passed off as SUVs on our shores. With that tall boy stance and raised GC that car had no excuse to take THAT sharp turn at high speeds. Atleast if it was a true blue SUV there might have been better/bigger tyres/brakes and AWD TC etc. to atleast put up a fight. But try telling this to a moron under the impression that he is invincible just because he has got the latest SUV(atrocity) sold in the market :Frustrati
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