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Originally Posted by SJM1214 (Post 4577753)
One more accident at the end of the same bridge. A Vitara Brezza sandwiched between an Innova and Bus.

From the plates, it seems like it is a self drive rental. Might just be a case of the driver not being familiar with the car perhaps.

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Originally Posted by porsche_guy (Post 4577818)
... Might just be a case of the driver not being familiar with the car perhaps.

No reason to get sandwiched between two other vehicles. In fact, no reason to have an accident.

A half-decent driver can drive any car any time. If some factor takes acclimatisation, eg being much larger or more powerful than we are used to, then we work within the constraint.

Rental car, worn out tires, potentially unfamiliar car for the driver. Dangerous combo.

Are there more details available? Was the driver belted? Unclear from the picture but there appears to be a bump on the windshield from the inside, though it gets mixed up with other damage below it. The driver airbag appears bloody too.

Saw this crashed truck, full of liquor and beer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c6Urjf2Acw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo6emBvNoCM

Tata Tiago's build quality has been talked widely. Now an owner has shot an email thanking Tata Motors for saving their lives.
This is what will differentiate them going forward, if they concentrate on the ASS; they will write history.

Gaadiwaadi.com reports :

https://gaadiwaadi.com/tata-tiagos-s...the-brand/amp/

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Originally Posted by porsche_guy (Post 4577818)
.....it seems like it is a self drive rental. Might just be a case of the driver not being familiar with the car perhaps...

This might sound like being judgemental, but I'm yet to come across a rental car on our roads that was being driven responsibly.
Easy access to rentals, low liability, vehicle unfamiliarity, someone else's vehicle and resulting lack of ownership and accountability all adds up to reckless driving.
On encountering any rental car, the instinctive reaction tends to be to stay clear and as far away as possible from these self drive vehicles.

Kudos to TATA motors for building such cars with attention to safety and build quality. But this type of news is somehow constantly coming up. Some of them here, here and here. I am sure other car owners who have been saved by their respective cars would be equally thankful to that manufacturer, but somehow those never seem to be reported. Either those owners are ungrateful or maybe I have simply missed those reports! stupid:

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Originally Posted by FrodoOfTheShire (Post 4577926)
Kudos to TATA motors for building such cars with attention to safety and build quality. But this type of news is somehow constantly coming up. Some of them here, here and here. I am sure other car owners who have been saved by their respective cars would be equally thankful to that manufacturer, but somehow those never seem to be reported. Either those owners are ungrateful or maybe I have simply missed those reports! stupid:

They sound eerily similar as well! Maybe some crawlers at work?

But anyway, kudos to the build quality. Maruti: "er ahem"

I hate to be that guy but it is extremely annoying when people use one accident as proof of a car's safety credentials. You want to test if a car is safe - run it through a standardized set of tests that you then apply to every other car. That's why we have NCAP.

While it's a happy ending that this particular customer survived the accident with no injuries, that's just his good luck and nothing more.

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Originally Posted by rajesh.palaria (Post 4577917)

The article looks more like a marketing write up!! What's the Tiago's engine specifications and ARAI mileage rating doing in it?

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Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom (Post 4577820)
No reason to get sandwiched between two other vehicles. In fact, no reason to have an accident.

A half-decent driver can drive any car any time. If some factor takes acclimatisation, eg being much larger or more powerful than we are used to, then we work within the constraint.

There can be many reasons right from brake failure to a tyre bursting as well. It is also possible that the driver might not be as familiar with the brakes in the car. Rentals in India tend to not be maintained well which further leads to this suspicion

Cheers!:)

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Originally Posted by Geo_Ipe (Post 4577940)
The article looks more like a marketing write up!! What's the Tiago's engine specifications and ARAI mileage rating doing in it?

That's something most sites do with these kind of articles. They have limited info so they have to have something to fill it up. Have seen plenty of similar instances, nothing to be suspicious about.

For example, I was reading an article a few weeks ago, about some problems in the cross-badging of the Corolla from Toyota, for Maruti, they had very limited info, which included general statements like "D-Segment is being replaced by C-SUV's" etc. etc. and the rest was filled in with the specifications of the Corolla, as it is now, from Toyota.

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Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez (Post 4577935)
I hate to be that guy but it is extremely annoying when people use one accident as proof of a car's safety credentials. You want to test if a car is safe - run it through a standardized set of tests that you then apply to every other car. That's why we have NCAP.

While it's a happy ending that this particular customer survived the accident with no injuries, that's just his good luck and nothing more.

I am curious about your point of view: If a car met with an accident in real life and the occupants came out unscathed, it's sheer luck and if a car was tested with NCAP and came out of the tests with good ratings, then it's safe - is this what you are saying?

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Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez (Post 4577935)
I hate to be that guy but it is extremely annoying when people use one accident as proof of a car's safety credentials. You want to test if a car is safe - run it through a standardized set of tests that you then apply to every other car. That's why we have NCAP.

While it's a happy ending that this particular customer survived the accident with no injuries, that's just his good luck and nothing more.

Yes, and Tata has consistently done better than any other Indian manufacturer on NCAP and certainly better than some international brands like Suzuki in India, so one can't begrudge them some positive publicity driven by incidents like this.

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Originally Posted by honeybee (Post 4577959)
I am curious about your point of view: If a car met with an accident in real life and the occupants came out unscathed, it's sheer luck and if a car was tested with NCAP and came out of the tests with good ratings, then it's safe - is this what you are saying?

I think what OP is trying to say is that one needs a standardised way of testing a car, like NCAP, to arrive at a conclusion regarding each car's safety. One incident on the road does not stamp a car as safe or unsafe since each incident will have multiple different factors and physics behind it. It is simply the difference between fact and hypothesis in Science terms. With ratings like the NCAP, you get a score for each component and how do they behave in coherence with each other.


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