Team-BHP - Accidents in India

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Originally Posted by binand (Post 3791989)

This is news to me,
So how do they know if you are overspeeding?

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Originally Posted by Divya Sharan (Post 3792027)

Not sure about the blacklisting part, but you do get a 500 rupees penalty for over-speeding. The sad part is, one instance or many, the fine stays at 500. :Frustrati

Here is the LINK

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Originally Posted by rm_arjuna (Post 3791170)

yesterday while returning from my in-laws place which is around 160 kms from hyderabad ,felt so frustrated with fellow road users driving antics , tailgating , over taking inspite of binkers being on from both sides even when there is very little gap between cars , continous honking to give way . All these i observed are from smaller diesel cars i10 grand ,i20,swifts and polo's ,while i am at 100 in my scorpio which is the limit in these roads these cars are zooming around at breakneck speed trying to outrun each other .

That's India for you. If I ever leave India, the #1 reason will be the traffic and road manners.

This happened yesterday evening at about 6.25 p.m. on NH8 on the 'Dharuhera to Gurgaon' stretch. Couldn't get the details since the police did not let the vehicles stop. An ambulance had arrived by the time I got to the scene. Sad.

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Originally Posted by binand (Post 3791989)

This is news to me, so I looked it up.

So how do they know if you are overspeeding? They seem to have GPS hardware installed in the cars. Their privacy policy doesn't explicitly say that they track your speed, but what they have listed there seems to me is capable of doing it.

"Vehicles will contain hardware that gathers and transmits information about vehicle use" - "we track the location of your vehicle"

I have been incorrectly fined ₹500 once for overspeeding. Apparently the guy who booked the Zoomcar XUV after me decided to speedtest the car in a village neighboring Gurgaon to 144 kmph. I later got an automated email stating the time of speeding violation, the speed itself and latitude-longitude of the car at the time of the incidence. Probably indicates they detect speed from the GPS installed in the cars.

It took two phone calls from me to get them to reverse the fine after I explained my booking was already over at the time of overspeeding.

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Originally Posted by rav11stars (Post 3791664)

Around one year back, I traveled from Pune to my hometown via HYD. I felt more at ease on the two-lane Solapur-HYD road than the 4-lane HYD-BZA highway.
It was as if all hell broke loose. WagonRs trying to squeeze themselves between a 18-wheeler and my Punto, honking, irritating. Altos whizzing past by in zig-zag fashion.

Add to that I didn't think that state-run transport buses were so rash. I was a big fan of their drivers with all their's experience behind them. But it looks like it's all the past now. I was woken up to the reality when all sort of Super Luxurys, Indras and all sort of State Transport buses go so fast, so threateningly.

I can understand your feelings. I had driven a Wagon-R from HYD to Mumbai a week after Diwali in 2008, and the experience was exactly the same as you have described. The road is so narrow that either you keep crawling behind a slow moving truck or cross over to the wrong side for overtaking.

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Originally Posted by sudev (Post 3790054)

Is that blood on passengers door?

Could be. Could also be paan stains. Not verifiable without forensic examination.

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Originally Posted by purohitanuj (Post 3790087)

Was this Scorpio run under truck on NH8?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by phamilyman (Post 3790518)

...did you see the accident happen in front of your eyes?
Without a firsthand view...

Accident/crash reconstruction is an exact science. Eyewitnesses (like member purohitanuj above) also corroborate what happened.

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...distinguish a one-off mistake from "not knowing how to drive". Even the best of batsmen once in a blue moon, get out on the first ball they face in an innings.

Driving safely on public roads is not comparable with cricket (or for that matter, motorsports), where risks are knowingly taken. The standing mandate for driving on public roads in general is to minimize any risk to self and others. However, while driving on public roads, if one takes risks unknowingly, the conclusion stands that one does not know how to drive.

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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller (Post 3793751)

Depends. When we are assessing that over the internet, without having seen the said driver in action for atleast a few minutes (understood the context!), I doubt we can be so confident - infact I'd go so far as to say that its a grey area, with me biased towards a one-off mistake vs your bias that its almost certainly a persistent flaw.

I don't see it as black and white, esp in our chaotic environment. We may never know the truth - so maybe to each their own takeaways!

It is indeed more likely that the said person did "not know how to drive (defensively)", but I think there's a difference between a one-off error of judgement and systematic errors in judgement.

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Originally Posted by chandrda (Post 3791828)

. They started negotiating from 6 lakhs per body. Finally they Charged 6 lakhs for two and when the body was recovered, all the gold jewelry was missing.

This is so painful to read...never in my wildest of dreams I imagined human race would go down so much..- animals are more dignified. period!

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This is so painful to read...never in my wildest of dreams I imagined human race would go down so much..- animals are more dignified. period!

Its demand vs suppy. There is a movie in tamizh called Kazhugu which portrays the life of such workers.

I wish our we take neccessary steps to first not put ourselves or our family in danger.

Life jacket is a must when you know swimming in places like hoggenakkal and imagine my stance for those who dont know swimming.

Why would you risk 12,14 year olds life to take a ride in that clearly defined ride called death.

It makes no sense to me to put our kid s life in risk in such a scenario and worst case the parents didnt know swimming.

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Originally Posted by HR-06 (Post 3794345)

Came across these pics on FB. Judging from the upload date, the accident seems to have taken place in the month of march:

Sad. No active passive protective system would protect occupants in such case. Only a proper Under Run Protection Bar would have saved the day.

Looks like driver was sleeping behind the wheel.

I do not see any brakes marks. Looking at the depth "penetration" this is most likely cause.

Could ABS be the cause for this absence of brake marks even when driver applied brakes? Even if so I would have expected some angle to impact alignment as the driver tried steering "away" to save.

Street racing and biker stunts claims another victim in Bangalore.

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I would not be sad if the biker had died instead of the innocent victim.
These bikers are an absolute nuisance and are a danger on our already pathetic roads.

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Originally Posted by HR-06 (Post 3794345)

Came across these pics on FB. Judging from the upload date, the accident seems to have taken place in the month of march:

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Originally Posted by sudev (Post 3794464)

This was discussed in detail in this same thread in March. Here's the link to the post:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...ml#post3669573

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Originally Posted by Horizon81 (Post 3794561)

This was discussed in detail in this same thread in March. Here's the link to the post:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...ml#post3669573

I'm certainly not asking anybody to to go through 18,000-plus posts before adding to this thread, but I have an idea: when people notice a repeat, perhaps it could be reported to the mods who might take the decision to delete it?

Just an idea.

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Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom (Post 3794727)

Certainly Thad, if that's an option for reporting. This thread along with the tasteful/wierd and whacky mods' thread are the ones that see a large number of re-runs. This particular post caught my eye and just wanted to point to the earlier discussion.

:OT, but I just had to drag and drop the new post's image to google's image search to find the link to the earlier discussion.