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Old 13th October 2020, 21:02   #3511
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I recently bought a Rynox Stealth Evo riding jacket. Since this is my first piece of riding gear, I really dont know a reference. How would you compare Rynox products to other high end brands like Alpine etc.

Also, got Rynox Urban X riding gloves for Rs. 3500. There are simply too heavy to use to for commuting. Does anybody know any good quality lighter gloves? Maybe something half-finger.

Reading through this thread I see that the general consensus is commuting with riding jackets. But then, dont you always have to carry the jacket with you when you're not riding? Isn't that inconvenient?
The Rynox Stealth Evo jacket is their top of the line riding jacket, but not the ideal one if you're looking to 'city commute' considering it's not an all out 'mesh jacket' (like their Tornado range). The pocket vents won't be sufficient in the Delhi heat. But it's still a great value for money product with features that would definitely be useful in touring and all day highway rides.

Instead of the Urban X, you should have gone for the air GT range - its lighter and much more flexible for everyday riding. Though as neil.jericho rightly mentioned - the more you 'break in' with your glove, the more lightweight and comfortable it becomes. I use the ViaTerra full gauntlet gloves which are a bit bulky and cumbersome to put on in the initial days but with more usage it now almost feels part of my hand! Avoid half-finger ones at all cost.

Personal view with regards to riding gear is - the more you use them, the more it gets comfortable; symbiotic relationship of sorts. And you'll find your own unique solution to carry/store them on an everyday basis.
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For rain jackets 'over the top' - Viaterra has come up with a great rain jacket called M200 Rain Jacket Pro (please check the specs on their website).
Checked this out. Fair price and I will keep this in my cart.

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Complete paisa vasool till you upgrade yourself to proper riding jackets/pants/boots.
Which pants would you recommend that's a fair mix of comfort and protection?
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Old 14th October 2020, 11:37   #3513
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Once you get adjusted to using your Urban X gloves, you wont be able to ride without it. Also please do remember, with more protection comes more bulkiness / heaviness that you are experiencing first hand (no pun intended!).
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Instead of the Urban X, you should have gone for the air GT range - its lighter and much more flexible for everyday riding. Though as neil.jericho rightly mentioned - the more you 'break in' with your glove, the more lightweight and comfortable it becomes. I use the ViaTerra full gauntlet gloves which are a bit bulky and cumbersome to put on in the initial days but with more usage it now almost feels part of my hand! Avoid half-finger ones at all cost.
Regarding the Urbax X gloves, it felt fine when I thoroughly tried it at the store. But during riding, I feel that it severely reduces the range of motion of my thumb in particular. Is this a sort of a thing that I could get used to? Or will the gloves slowly adjust? How long does is usually take to break in a glove?

Also, product description says the glove is mobile touch screen friendly but it is not. It is really annoying when I'm at a long signal and I take out my phone, but the phone just doesnt register my taps. Is this how "touchscreen friendly" glove are?

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The Rynox Stealth Evo jacket is their top of the line riding jacket, but not the ideal one if you're looking to 'city commute' considering it's not an all out 'mesh jacket' (like their Tornado range). The pocket vents won't be sufficient in the Delhi heat. But it's still a great value for money product with features that would definitely be useful in touring and all day highway rides.

Personal view with regards to riding gear is - the more you use them, the more it gets comfortable; symbiotic relationship of sorts. And you'll find your own unique solution to carry/store them on an everyday basis.
Its funny, website description says "light and nimble" for the Stealth Evo, which was one of the reasons why I bought it. At the time of purchase, I also felt it looked pretty killer, and just a great jacket overall. But then I wore it on two occasions and I realised, it screams "Hey look at me I'm a rider wearing a riding jacket."

I get it that I have to fit in the riding gear into my lifestyle the way I see fit, organically. It's just such a new world to me, one that I'm not used to nor have any exposure to (I dont have any biker friends as such too ), but still, one that I'm thrilled to be a part of. One of the reasons for that is the amazing community that is Team BHP.

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Re: The Riding Gear thread

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Regarding the Urbax X gloves, it felt fine when I thoroughly tried it at the store. But during riding, I feel that it severely reduces the range of motion of my thumb in particular. Is this a sort of a thing that I could get used to? Or will the gloves slowly adjust? How long does is usually take to break in a glove?

Also, product description says the glove is mobile touch screen friendly but it is not. It is really annoying when I'm at a long signal and I take out my phone, but the phone just doesnt register my taps. Is this how "touchscreen friendly" glove are?
Different gloves take different amounts of times to break in. This can probably be down to the thickness of the leather, the stitching and overall construction. One trick is to walk around the house wearing it and using it for some of your day to day activities to break the gloves in, while you are off the motorcycle. This works well for new riding boots also.

The touchscreen friendly / compatibility of gloves is a bit of a question mark for me as well. My A* SP2 gloves are advertised as having a "Touchscreen compatible fingertip" but I find it easier to just remove the gloves and use my hands instead to deal with the phone.

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Its funny, website description says "light and nimble" for the Stealth Evo, which was one of the reasons why I bought it. At the time of purchase, I also felt it looked pretty killer, and just a great jacket overall. But then I wore it on two occasions and I realised, it screams "Hey look at me I'm a rider wearing a riding jacket."

I get it that I have to fit in the riding gear into my lifestyle the way I see fit, organically. It's just such a new world to me, one that I'm not used to nor have any exposure to (I dont have any biker friends as such too ), but still, one that I'm thrilled to be a part of. One of the reasons for that is the amazing community that is Team BHP.
The lightest jackets from Rynox are the Air GT3 and the Tornado. Whichever jacket you would have selected, you would still give the Im a rider wearing a riding jacket vibe. But once you get used to it, you wont be able to ride without it. I used to commute to work with a riding jacket and gloves and beyond a point, people stop noticing to be honest.
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Old 15th October 2020, 16:39   #3515
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I’m still waiting for viaterra to release their riding jacket!
Watch out for their build up on social media (Instagram), as of now it's called "Munro" and it has some options to choose from,
- Outer rain jacket, Pro or Normal
- Puffed winter jacket, with or without hood
- Armors Level2, Sas-tec or YF Protector
- Custom colors & personalization (expected)

Launching on 18th October, I suppose!

I assume prices will be 7,990 to 9,990 introductory
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Which pants would you recommend that's a fair mix of comfort and protection?
If we are talking water protection+comfort from rain, then the brand I mentioned "ZEEL" is something I use. I just checked their website and I guess they have two versions - Reversible and Taping suit (both with hood and neck protection).

When out for a weekend rider or highway runs, I normally wear the rain pants over my riding pant (and not the rain liner supplied by the brand) irrespective of drizzle or manic downpour. For commutes within the city, I usually wear it over a pair of denims. As mentioned before, has kept me dry throughout with no water seeping through neck or sleeves.

This is my 'budget' solution to the otherwise more robust riding jackets and pants which come with inner/outer rain liners; but sometimes are not the most ideal for commutes given the weight and added heat due to the protectors.

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I get it that I have to fit in the riding gear into my lifestyle the way I see fit, organically. It's just such a new world to me, one that I'm not used to nor have any exposure to (I dont have any biker friends as such too ), but still, one that I'm thrilled to be a part of. One of the reasons for that is the amazing community that is Team BHP.
Fair enough. So let me give you an example of one of my routines and maybe that might help you figure something of your own.

I commute mostly on my bike and many a times have to shuffle between 'formal meetings' in one corner of the city and 'coffee meetings' in the other corner. I have a white dri-fit full sleeve that I wear under my riding jacket. Why white? Because it blends in with formal shirts that I have to wear (without showing itself from the inside). Also the 'wicking property' makes it faster to dry off. Would suggest buying sports brand ones from decathlon or sport shops because low cost ones from Amazon tend to smell

I have a black denim riding pant that I use on most of these occasions - black making the 'riding pant' angle less conspicuous. I have an ASG 45L top box in which I carry my work stuff, laptop, spare t-shirt, a formal shirt, perfume/deo (for obvious reasons!) etc. The top box doubles up as a storage unit for the riding jacket, balaclava, gloves. I usually carry the helmet with me. Trick is to land up a little earlier than the destined time - so that you can change, relax and calm the mind after the hectic commute. I also have a fragrant moisture absorption pack that I got off Amazon inside the top box which helps in keeping the dampness level in check. And for the 'coffee meetings' - the tshirt over the dri fit just completes the 'young genZ look'

Though this has worked for me most of the time, it is not a 100% solution because sometimes one will need to improvise depending on the surroundings! The whole "Oh look at him wearing a riding jacket - biker vibes" is just mind-game that mostly happens in our heads more than others. Everybody is in a hurry to go somewhere anyway. And even if they are thinking and giving you stares - well, you definitely are doing something right!
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Hi fellow BHPians!

I'm a noodle to riding gear and have finally decided to buy some. I've got a pair gloves from RE itself, but it got wet once and started unraveling. I would like to buy a jacket sub 10K with waterproofing. I had found one which I liked and fit my requirements but it seems that I forgot to bookmark it.

I would also like to buy a good full face helmet. I haven't got a budget for it as yet, but I will have to start saving for that.

Please suggest something which you find that will be good.

Thanks a lot!
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I'm a noodle to riding gear and have finally decided to buy some. I've got a pair gloves from RE itself, but it got wet once and started unraveling. I would like to buy a jacket sub 10K with waterproofing. I had found one which I liked and fit my requirements but it seems that I forgot to bookmark it.
Do your research brother all the pages here has loads of information. Sub 10k and 'waterproof' doesn't simply exist, all you can get is 'water resistant'!

Check this CE Certified jacket from RE, Stormraider with D3O armors

Few posts earlier I've mentioned links to all riding gear manufacturers from India (most of them). Have fun browsing!
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Hi fellow BHPians!

I'm a noodle to riding gear and have finally decided to buy some. I've got a pair gloves from RE itself, but it got wet once and started unraveling. I would like to buy a jacket sub 10K with waterproofing. I had found one which I liked and fit my requirements but it seems that I forgot to bookmark it.

I would also like to buy a good full face helmet. I haven't got a budget for it as yet, but I will have to start saving for that.

Please suggest something which you find that will be good.

Thanks a lot!
Like Surja said, sun 10k and water proof do not exist. Perhaps you could consider buying the best jacket in that budget and wearing a Nelson rigg raincheater on top. Or one from decathlon. They are both pretty effective and that would be the closest low budget option to get you the same end result.
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Do your research brother all the pages here has loads of information. Sub 10k and 'waterproof' doesn't simply exist, all you can get is 'water resistant'!

Check this CE Certified jacket from RE, Stormraider with D3O armors

Few posts earlier I've mentioned links to all riding gear manufacturers from India (most of them). Have fun browsing!
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Like Surja said, sun 10k and water proof do not exist. Perhaps you could consider buying the best jacket in that budget and wearing a Nelson rigg raincheater on top. Or one from decathlon. They are both pretty effective and that would be the closest low budget option to get you the same end result.
Thank you for your replies! After some digging I managed to find the one that I found the other day. The Vykon Inducation Jacket was the one that I had found. It says it has a removable waterproof liner inside. Please tell me if this would be a good buy.

Thank you so much!
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Hi fellow BHPians!

I'm a noodle to riding gear and have finally decided to buy some. I've got a pair gloves from RE itself, but it got wet once and started unraveling. I would like to buy a jacket sub 10K with waterproofing. I had found one which I liked and fit my requirements but it seems that I forgot to bookmark it.

I would also like to buy a good full face helmet. I haven't got a budget for it as yet, but I will have to start saving for that.

Please suggest something which you find that will be good.

Thanks a lot!
I was in your shoes about a year or so ago. First pick was the MT Thunder 3 helmet. Next up was Viaterra holeshot gloves. Bought the Rynox Air GT3 a month ago. Next up will be the Orazo picus boots. IMO you should go in the following order:
Helmet > gloves (you already have a pair so you can place this as an upgrade later) > boots > jacket.
All my stuff has been bought post research on TBHP! Just love this forum.
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My Rynox Urban jacket which cost just under Rs 7k kept me dry through a 300km ride in pretty heavy rain. I was sceptical about the detachable waterproof liner when I bought it but it has never let a drop of water through. The thermal liner kept me comfortable at 3 deg Celsius. Its not like you can't get a good jacket on a budget.
That being said, I don't know how it would fare if I took a slide. I doubt abrasion resistance is its strong point.
It would be advisable to get a jacket with a chest protector pocket and eventually swap out all the protectors for D3O level 2. Keep in mind that the chest and back protectors that come with the jacket are just foam pads and you will need to get these separately.

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Thank you for your replies! After some digging I managed to find the one that I found the other day. The Vykon Inducation Jacket was the one that I had found. It says it has a removable waterproof liner inside. Please tell me if this would be a good buy.

Thank you so much!

My apologies I stand corrected. I do not know of this brand (and that could just be my ignorance) but I know Rynox is a decent budget brand and someone suggested a model they have used.

On a related note, I might still suggest you consider the over rainwear. That is what I do at least. Buy the best quality riding jacket from a protection standpoint. Rain protection can easily be added on top cheaply via a good raincoat made for such purposes.
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My apologies I stand corrected. I do not know of this brand (and that could just be my ignorance) but I know Rynox is a decent budget brand and someone suggested a model they have used.

On a related note, I might still suggest you consider the over rainwear. That is what I do at least. Buy the best quality riding jacket from a protection standpoint. Rain protection can easily be added on top cheaply via a good raincoat made for such purposes.
Thanks, I shall look into your recommendations!

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I was in your shoes about a year or so ago. First pick was the MT Thunder 3 helmet. Next up was Viaterra holeshot gloves. Bought the Rynox Air GT3 a month ago. Next up will be the Orazo picus boots. IMO you should go in the following order:
Helmet > gloves (you already have a pair so you can place this as an upgrade later) > boots > jacket.
All my stuff has been bought post research on TBHP! Just love this forum.

Thanks! I'll look at some boots as well then.

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Thanks, I shall look into your recommendations!
Forgot to mention, some other advantages of over rainwear are:

1. Jacket does not get mucky and you just need to wash the rainwear post ride (jacket washing entails a more cumbersome process of removing internal guards etc);

2. Jacket generally suffers less mucky wear and tear - not that that is such a big issue. these are mostly made well for abuse.

3. If you use jacket pockets to store any stuff it'll benefit from the rainwear protection. An inner liner will keep "you dry" but the valuables in jacket pocket are still exposed to rain.

4. Rain wear is useful for layering up or down depending on the weather.

5. They are relatively cheap and cheerful so can be replaced more often as needed.

6. If its raining on and off on a ride, you can easily remove the rainwear and wear the jacket in a lighter form. Inner layer can be removed too i guess but more convenient removing a raincoat. On my recent ride from Pune to Goa this weekend, I wore the jacket till Kolhapur. Then it was really hot and wasn't raining either so simply removed and put it under my bunjee net.
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