[magikrider]

Originally Posted by Mohan Mathew A

To Magikrider

I had the same confusion as you whether to go for the 1.5 TDi or the 1.6 TDI. My 2 cents, if you are not keen on the DSG (i had to let go of it because i wanted the car immediately and there was a waiting for the DSG highline) i would suggest the 1.6 TDI for the simple reason that there is quite a bit of discount on it and you can get a good deal. 1.6 TDI clutch is heavy, i am not sure how lighter is the clutch of 1.5 TDI, but if there is not much of a difference you should opt for the 1.6 TDI because with the cash saved you can do quite a few things. First in my list is to upgrade the HU to a proper touch screen one with Navigation and camera
Also i got a test drive of the DSG from VW North (Borivali) not Andheri

Well the 1.6 TDI is not available anymore. checked with VW downtown and also VW Outlet in Andheri west. The 1.6 stock has exhausted. I was thinking of getting the 1.6 and adding a tuning box to it!

Now I might either go for the 1.5 MT or DSG. haven't decided yet. also want the 2015 make now so I have some time.

[AUTO_ZING]

Friends I would like to know the long term ownership costs of Vento TDI 1.6. My extended warranty is about to expire, so its time to shop for data. What to expect in case of a complete Engine Overhaul, I am more concerned about the Engine. If you have information about spares for the Engine such as

• Half Engine Assesmbly
• Turbo
• Injectors
• Common Rail
• Clutch Assembly - Clutch Plate, Bearing, Pressure Plate, Flywheel

Any information from fellow members is welcome

[magikrider]

Hi Everyone,

August make Vento 1.6 TDI is available. The choice of colors are White, Silver and Shadow blue. I am thinking either White or Shadow blue but am thinking the Shadow blue might not age as gracefully as the white and also it might get dull a couple of years down the line and the scratches might also be more visible on a darker shade. I have a Opulent Purple XUV and have experienced this on my car so. Even the swirl marks formed by the washer's cloth are visible under sunlight. On the other hand I think the white color might also look a bit dull and boring when aged.

Suggestions are welcome. Need to decide immediately. Thanks

[Rajeevraj]

Originally Posted by magikrider

Hi Everyone,

August make Vento 1.6 TDI is available. The choice of colors are White, Silver and Shadow blue. I am thinking either White or Shadow blue but am thinking the Shadow blue might not age as gracefully as the white and also it might get dull a couple of years down the line and the scratches might also be more visible on a darker shade. I have a Opulent Purple XUV and have experienced this on my car so. Even the swirl marks formed by the washer's cloth are visible under sunlight. On the other hand I think the white color might also look a bit dull and boring when aged.

Suggestions are welcome. Need to decide immediately. Thanks

My vote is for the shadow blue. It looks great on the Vento. It will me more of a high maintenance color, but that should be manageable. In addition atleast here in Bangalore there are a lot of Black and Yellow board Vento's used by the hotels. They are all white. So that is another reason I did not opt for white (My first choice was shadow blue and since it was not available the choices I got were white or black)

[DineshKanna]

Originally Posted by dsr_rpm

There have been a few cases regarding issues with steering columns and they do have to return the old parts when a part is changed in warranty.

Do they retun the part to the customer or sent to the manufacturer?[/quote]

Even i had the same issue with my steering column which was changed under warranty. The dealer charged for the wheel alignment and the old column was not returned since it was changed under warranty.

[el lobo 6061]

Originally Posted by magikrider

August make Vento 1.6 TDI is available. The choice of colors are White, Silver and Shadow blue. I am thinking either White or Shadow blue but am thinking the Shadow blue might not age as gracefully as the white and also it might get dull a couple of years down the line and the scratches might also be more visible on a darker shade.

Going by your state of mind, I would suggest:
1. White : Easy to maintain, heats up less, swirls & scratches don't show up.
2. Shadow Blue : It rewards if you maintain it. Shadow Blue & Pearl Black look superb till its kept swirl free. In Mumbai you can get your car swirl free by going to any 3M Car Care center.

Lastly I would suggest, why no go in for 1.5 TDi DSG. Reason being
1. Mumbai horrible traffic
2. Trend towards automatic
3. 1500cc saves on insurance costs
4. Dual barrel headlamps
5. Latest updated model.

[CRV2010]

Originally Posted by DineshKanna

Do they retun the part to the customer or sent to the manufacturer?

Even i had the same issue with my steering column which was changed under warranty. The dealer charged for the wheel alignment and the old column was not returned since it was changed under warranty.

Why was your steering column changed ?

I am getting Kat Kat sound when I rotate the steering but service centre guys says its normal.

[magikrider]

Originally Posted by Rajeevraj

My vote is for the shadow blue. It looks great on the Vento. It will me more of a high maintenance color, but that should be manageable. In addition atleast here in Bangalore there are a lot of Black and Yellow board Vento's used by the hotels. They are all white. So that is another reason I did not opt for white (My first choice was shadow blue and since it was not available the choices I got were white or black)

Well The Shadow Blue is not an option now as its a March model. Have opted for the Silver as was just a little late for the White one. It was sold just that morning!

Originally Posted by el lobo 6061

Going by your state of mind, I would suggest:
1. White : Easy to maintain, heats up less, swirls & scratches don't show up.
2. Shadow Blue : It rewards if you maintain it. Shadow Blue & Pearl Black look superb till its kept swirl free. In Mumbai you can get your car swirl free by going to any 3M Car Care center.

Lastly I would suggest, why no go in for 1.5 TDi DSG. Reason being
1. Mumbai horrible traffic
2. Trend towards automatic
3. 1500cc saves on insurance costs
4. Dual barrel headlamps
5. Latest updated model.

The 1.5 TDI DSG isn't as much fun to drive compared to the 1.6 TDI MT. Also I might hire a driver sometime down the line and DSG would be a risky proposition then. Its actually little laggy and lacks the punch of the MT 1.6 TDI plus pretty expensive. It isn't as much fun as the 1.2 TSI even. The famous Torque kickback of the Vento is nowhere felt. I think the DSG would be best enjoyed on the cars from a segment above like on the Jetta/Octavia. So I am opting for the 1.6 TDI. and I guess 4-4.5 month old VW car should not be a problem. Don't care much about the double barrel headlamps and other minor updates much. The true fun lies in the Engine performance and the drivability of a car.

[DineshKanna]

Originally Posted by CRV2010

Why was your steering column changed ?

I am getting Kat Kat sound when I rotate the steering but service centre guys says its normal.

No that is not normal. For me this issue was there starting from day 1, i informed this issue in my first service and the service guy told me that there is no problem but i get the steering noise when i travel in bad road. I had to prove that there is a problem in the steering column to the service guy but asking him to test it several times. Finally he found out that there is an issue with the steering column. Now when i rotate there is no noise. Since it was under warranty i was saved from paying an hefty price.

I recommend you to visit your service station and ask a senior mechanic to test your vehicle and get this rectified.

[magikrider]

Ok Guys I took a visit of the dealers stockyard to check the two 1.6 TDI Ventos he had to offer. lets name them A and B for reference sake. So externally both cars looked fine and no sign of damage anywhere or anything suspicious. Both the cars are august make and both arrived at the dealer's stockyard on 10th November from the plant. came to know this from the stockyard's register which keeps the record of all the cars arrival date (muster card as he referred). So they have not faced the monsoon in the open thankfully. both looked and felt like brand new and there wasn't any sign of anything fishy whatsoever.

However when I started the cars to check the engine, The car A sounded little more loud and clattery in comparison. The car B seemed better in this regard. But the car B had a little notchy gearbox or shall I say little hard when tried to shift to the 5th gear and also could feel a little more drivetrain on the clutch. I am thinking that the gearbox felt little hard because its new and shall get better with use maybe. I checked the gearbox while the car was stationary. Though don't know about the drivetrain feel on the clutch. Though it didn't feel as bad as the New Rapid 1.5 TDI test drive car in which I had taken a test drive.

I somehow felt that the car B seemed better overall except the little more clutch drivetrain and the little hard 5th gear (though this was checked when the car was stationary mind you). Car A sounded little more louder when idle and also at start, which I think might be something that can not be easily rectified maybe. Somehow It didn't feel right. Though the gearbox felt little smoother and there was less drivetrain felt on the clutch of the car A.

So I have at present selected the car B. I took a small round in both the cars also at the stockyard.

Maybe I am just being paranoid or being a little too picky as both cars seemed fine and brand new and fine enough. But nevertheless what do you guys think? Can do with some expert opinions.

Though Rest all looked fine. There wasn't any smoke or leaks anywhere and everything seemed all right. The rubber seals on the door and wiper blades also looked and felt soft and perfectly fine and not hard. no signs of anything wrong and seemed like a good deal with the kind of discount I was offered. Plus I much prefer the 1.6 TDI over the 1.5 TDI. The Old round steering and steering controls also feel better to use I think. Double barrel headlamps aren't such a big deal. Apart from that I think nothing is important. So overall I think its a much better deal compared to the 1.5 TDI.

BTW both the cars are sold. One silver was already sold and I paid the deposit for the other yesterday. But I was given the chance to check them both and select whichever I want as the other customer didn't have any preference I think or cared so much. After all not all are as finicky or picky as us Bhpians are about cars!



P.S. - I had taken along a sheet of paper with points from the article about How to buy a new car with an old manufacturing date from Team-Bhp for reference.

[el lobo 6061]

Originally Posted by magikrider

The car B seemed better in this regard. But the car B had a little notchy gearbox or shall I say little hard when tried to shift to the 5th gear and also could feel a little more drivetrain on the clutch. I am thinking that the gearbox felt little hard because its new and shall get better with use maybe. I checked the gearbox while the car was stationary.

I can tell from experience. When a Vento 1.6 TDi is kept stationary for more than a month, the gear box feels slightly hard. Drive it for few kms and gets back to butter smooth.

Congratulations for your VeeDub.

[magikrider]

Originally Posted by el lobo 6061

I can tell from experience. When a Vento 1.6 TDi is kept stationary for more than a month, the gear box feels slightly hard. Drive it for few kms and gets back to butter smooth.

Congratulations for your VeeDub.

Thanks a lot dude

Yeah I thought so too that with usage the gearbox should get smoother and sorted. But what about the drivetrain feel on the clutch? Is there s way we can make it less somehow? Coz its felt more on some cars (VW/Skoda) more than others.

[murajith]

Originally Posted by magikrider

But what about the drivetrain feel on the clutch?

Not very sure if I understood the 'drivetrain feel on the clutch'. But, if you were talking about the vibration on the clutch when in neutral or around the time you engage the gear, it might be as el lobo 6061 said, the vehicle have been stationary for a quite some time, the engine might not have warmed up (its around the winter time as well) and even lubricants might take some time to warm up.
I have felt that Vento (relative to Accent crdi I had) takes a little more time to warm up to its form...at times 5-10mins. If you get a chance again, it might be better to see how the engine/clutch/transmission is after 5-6min of idling.

But if you are talking about drivetrain feel as in, some feel of rotation of shafts, release spring squeak/noise or so... I haven't felt anything of that sort in my car. You may want to check in detail for transmission line.

[Mohan Mathew A]

Originally Posted by magikrider

One silver was already sold and I paid the deposit for the other yesterday.

Congratulations magikrider. Good that you decided on the 1.6. What is the discount that you managed. Mine too is Reflux Silver. When are you taking delivery?. Pls PM me the details if you don't want to mention it here

[CRV2010]

Originally Posted by DineshKanna

No that is not normal. For me this issue was there starting from day 1, i informed this issue in my first service and the service guy told me that there is no problem but i get the steering noise when i travel in bad road. I had to prove that there is a problem in the steering column to the service guy but asking him to test it several times. Finally he found out that there is an issue with the steering column. Now when i rotate there is no noise. Since it was under warranty i was saved from paying an hefty price.

I recommend you to visit your service station and ask a senior mechanic to test your vehicle and get this rectified.

I have been raising this issue everytime when I visit the service centre however they refuse it saying no issue. I can feel the Kat Kat sound + slight vibrations in the steering. Thanks, I will take this issue again this week.