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Originally Posted by anekho
(Post 1778179)
woah! Besides, hopefully the engineering that has gone into this car will show in the long run and make up for the lack of features. Just my opinion, no offense intended! |
Originally Posted by worldcrawler
(Post 1777856)
I guess the average bookings of Petrol polo itself across dealers ( may be 40 of them ) is more than 60+. And in previous post I saw a dealer is having 100+ bookings. So, the initial response is damn good for a company like VW with merely 40 dealers but still selling close to 2500 cars ! It may not sustain for a long time but right now it's good for VW. We are talking about premium , VFM all this stuff ( including me in the top ) , but if they are able to sell more than 2000 cars even in first few months , that will change the game for VW and then we may have a surprise. * Please don't jump on me regarding the numbers as they are mere speculations. Oh my god ! so 7-8K is the official figure for each service ? Now this is what is "premium" :Shockked: How much oil a 3 pot engine consumes? Oh, I forgot it's premium oil( liquid engineering at it's best ). |
Originally Posted by worldcrawler
(Post 1778385)
May be a stupid question but what exactly is different in terms of engineering/technology which no other hatches offer here ? Their 3 pot engine ? Not sure what's the difference in emissions with other 4 pot engines . But if it's not significant then there is no value in this step. Only thing which I see superior to other offerings is probably the international platform ( not sure though ). Apart from that I don't see anything different or superior to other cars as the Indian Polo doesn't offer anything great as it's been built to a price and only time will tell where exactly they have reduced cost. Now talking about build quality in affordable hatches , I see only Palio , which after years of abuse externally doesn't show age( there may be other issues and spares problem ). Polo is yet to prove this ( although the international models proved this ) as the Indian one is built to a price and quite different from the international offering. |
Originally Posted by worldcrawler
(Post 1778385)
May be a stupid question but what exactly is different in terms of engineering/technology which no other hatches offer here ? Their 3 pot engine ? Not sure what's the difference in emissions with other 4 pot engines . But if it's not significant then there is no value in this step. The 3 pot engine is the same VW offers in Polo's basic variant in Europe. If they would have designed a new 1.2 for India, it would have costed them much more. Only thing which I see superior to other offerings is probably the international platform ( not sure though ). I have sit in a previous gen Polo and must say, the interiors felt almost same. Even in Europe, Polo is VW's basic offering compared to its other cars. Its like A-Star to suzuki. Parts have surely have been localised but VW's purchasing stategies with suppliers were very stringent here in India to keep the quality as high as possible. I know it inside out, cant explain them due to other reasons! Can just state that I work for an organisation that do research on automotive component suppliers across the globe. Apart from that I don't see anything different or superior to other cars as the Indian Polo doesn't offer anything great as it's been built to a price and only time will tell where exactly they have reduced cost. I would beg to differ..... Now talking about build quality in affordable hatches , I see only Palio , which after years of abuse externally doesn't show age( there may be other issues and spares problem ). Polo is yet to prove this ( although the international models proved this ) as the Indian one is built to a price and quite different from the international offering. A car like Punto is built to price, many BHPians have already reported rust on the body (my 800 still doest have it after 10 years, Good Morning) and interior quality is something I hated, the first time I sat in the car. Polo's built quality and interior quality is tad bit than the Swift or the Punto. Interiors are better than figo or Beat too. Although, I have personally never liked Hyundai's car, I must admit that I20's interior quality is better than the Polo. Kudos to Hyundai for that. Furthermore, i20 looks good as well but thats because Europe's Vauxhall Corsa looks good as well. |
Originally Posted by rupinder
(Post 1778401)
today i saw a red polo which was registered in ludhiana .it was looking good. another grouse that the buyers of polo who go for brand name and image have is that there is no indication on the car whether a particular car is trendline,comfortline or highline.you have to judge yourself seeing the features .when i was at the showroom a person was complaining about it .now how are they supposed to show their neighbours that they have bought the highend version. go figure |
Originally Posted by fiat_tarun
(Post 1777905)
Well the Honda Jazz's sales no's for the first 2 months or so were around the 2-2.5k mark and then started the big plunge. A new product will always receive a good initial response (especially the POLO after all the publicity). Whether sales will remain good will depend on the feedback of the initial owners. The biggest problem like is mentioned is the dealer network. The whole of karnataka has only 3 dealers in bangalore.. |
Originally Posted by joe1980
(Post 1778155)
I guess a Polo here in Germany costs roughly about 15, 000 Euros. The vehicle is assembled here in Europe (Well, these might not be exactly true but to some extent). I really do not know the rules and norms for manufacturing a car in India. But I certainly do know that the cost of manufacturing in India is far far less than in Europe. This being the case, why should this vehicle cost so much in India? In simple terms it looks like "Indian Made - European priced" but rather I would expect "Indian Made - Indian Priced" |
Originally Posted by rupinder
(Post 1778401)
today i saw a red polo which was registered in ludhiana .it was looking good. another grouse that the buyers of polo who go for brand name and image have is that there is no indication on the car whether a particular car is trendline,comfortline or highline.you have to judge yourself seeing the features .when i was at the showroom a person was complaining about it .now how are they supposed to show their neighbours that they have bought the highend version. go figure |
Originally Posted by gaurav_chopra04
(Post 1778427)
Please find my replies in Bold A car like Punto is built to price, many BHPians have already reported rust on the body (my 800 still doest have it after 10 years, Good Morning) and interior quality is something I hated, the first time I sat in the car. Polo's built quality and interior quality is tad bit than the Swift or the Punto. |
Originally Posted by arun1100
(Post 1778667)
Can you give me the LINK please. Where TBhpians have reported their PUNTO rusting. Take your time to find the link. |
Originally Posted by vid6639
(Post 1777458)
It is the lack of basic features which don't cost much. They don't have vanity mirrors, there is no seat back pocket, there is no light in the boot, there is no rear defogger or wiper. I don't mind not having climate control or no audio as anyways it will be of poor quality. But why remove the basic stuff like vanity mirrors, illuminated boot light or rear defogger and wiper. In a premium hatch atleast don't leave that big gaping gap in rear windshield meant for wiper. |
Originally Posted by gaurav_chopra04
(Post 1778427)
Furthermore, i20 looks good as well but thats because Europe's Vauxhall Corsa looks good as well. |
Originally Posted by gaurav_chopra04
(Post 1778768)
Definitely Sir, I will look for them in detail and post them in the evening but here's what I found within five minutes of my search. In office at the moment, will search for more in the evening when I reach home. Please note, I love Fiat's MJD. I loved the palio and still love the punto too. But thats only the drive and looks. The old indicas were prone to rust too (we had one at home), but this is Fiat and I believe there is a difference. Fiat does make some good cars, no doubt about that but I personally have not liked their quality here in India. The second gen punto that my frined had in UK, definately had much better quality. No offence to those who own a Fiat, due respect to every one, their cars are absolute VFM, very competitively priced and good too. Please note, I dont want to start any other Fiat VS other's war here. There are plenty any ways. I have never bothered to be a part of the debates on Fiat. Only once did I posted my views when I visited the Tata- Fiat showroom. These were just my views from a little bit I know. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post1379784 Mr. amoghchaphalkar was being given a car with rusted parts, he noticed it during the pdi. He was almost on the verge of cancelling the car. He later got a new car. But the car he was being offered initially would have definitely been given to some other customer! http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...-customer.html rust on the beading and beading changed under warrenty http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...t-linea-5.html Here’s one for Linea too. |
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