Fiat Grande Punto : Test Drive & Review

nkrishnap · 27th March 2013, 18:42

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Originally Posted by lloydofcochin

These were the prices that I got from KHT & Prerana (Vecto now) when I enquired for Punto for my friend 2-3 weeks back.

KHT

Punto 90HP - 893000
Punto 75HP Emotion - 840000
Punto 75HP Dynamic - 765000
Punto 75HP Active - 690000

Prerana (Vecto)

Punto 90HP - 874805
Punto 75HP Emotion - 830780
Punto 75HP Dynamic - 757795
Punto 75HP Active - 681185

They offered a 16k discount for 2012 Cars in stock.

How come the quotes are so different between the two dealers. I have a few quotes where the KHT's on road price is higher, but no this extent.

Is the Vecto's price already accounts for the 16k discount? Even If accounted, there is significant differnt of 21xx bucks.

I guess now the discount is increased to 20 or 24k for the 2012 models.

lloydofcochin · 27th March 2013, 23:19

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Originally Posted by nkrishnap

How come the quotes are so different between the two dealers. I have a few quotes where the KHT's on road price is higher, but no this extent.

Is the Vecto's price already accounts for the 16k discount? Even If accounted, there is significant differnt of 21xx bucks.

I guess now the discount is increased to 20 or 24k for the 2012 models.

I told the Prerana guy that I have already got the quote from KHT and I need the best deal. The prices are for the 2013 models. 16k was the addl discount available for the 2012 models. The Prerana guy also promised some accessories like reverse parking sensors etc.

srinath34 · 28th March 2013, 07:13

Has anyone got any confirmation from the dealerships while enquiring for Punto/Linea that a new model refresh/facelift is coming on April 3rd.

Read the above news in Motorbeam. Link below

http://www.motorbeam.com/cars/fiat/2...rd-april-2013/

Looking forward to April 3rd now.

Cheers,

Srinath

S.MJet · 28th March 2013, 09:54

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Originally Posted by hiren.mistry

Autocar India has done a comparo of 90 HP diesels namely Hyundai i20, Tata Indica Vista and our Fiat Punto.
http://www.autocarindia.com/Feature/...unto-90hp.aspx

Guess which car comes out at the bottom!

Yes, I guessed it right!

BTW, I thought Punto is heaviest (kerb weight) hatch back available in India
Surprised to see Punto lightest of the three - 1144kg.
And i20 heaviest - 1212kg.
Vista - 1180kg

Arch-Angel · 28th March 2013, 11:09

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Originally Posted by S.MJet

Yes, I guessed it right!

BTW, I thought Punto is heaviest (kerb weight) hatch back available in India
Surprised to see Punto lightest of the three - 1144kg.
And i20 heaviest - 1212kg.
Vista - 1180kg

Makes me wonder why the ford tdci only makes 68 bhp from the same engine size. Old crdi tech?

hiren.mistry · 28th March 2013, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by S.MJet

Yes, I guessed it right!

BTW, I thought Punto is heaviest (kerb weight) hatch back available in India
Surprised to see Punto lightest of the three - 1144kg.
And i20 heaviest - 1212kg.
Vista - 1180kg

Can't say I disagree with the verdict. Barring the ride quality and of course the timeless looks, the i20 and Vista have Punto beat. The biggest bugbear of the vista was the centrally mounted console, now with in the 90HP avatar thats gone too. And the i20's engine is on a different level.

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Originally Posted by Arch-Angel

Makes me wonder why the ford tdci only makes 68 bhp from the same engine size. Old crdi tech?

No, the Ford's TDCi engine is not the same as the one used in Punto and Vista. Having said that what it loses out on outright power it makes it up with drive-ability.

Cheers

Arch-Angel · 28th March 2013, 12:51

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Originally Posted by hiren.mistry

No, the Ford's TDCi engine is not the same as the one used in Punto and Vista. Having said that what it loses out on outright power it makes it up with drive-ability.
Cheers

Oh! I forgot the size! 1.3L for the mjd...tdci is 1.4L, hyundai's crdi is 1.4L too i believe. Also, i agree on the driveability part where the tdci is a champ.

Still, why is there only 68 horses from a 1.4L block?

Pedaltothefloor · 30th March 2013, 10:40

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Originally Posted by Arch-Angel

Oh! I forgot the size! 1.3L for the mjd...tdci is 1.4L, hyundai's crdi is 1.4L too i believe. Also, i agree on the driveability part where the tdci is a champ.

Still, why is there only 68 horses from a 1.4L block?

What makes you think TDCI is the champ?

Baddychat · 30th March 2013, 11:11

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Originally Posted by Pedaltothefloor

What makes you think TDCI is the champ?

I kind of agree with you on this. Ford's TDCI engine is outdated and a SOHC while most of the competition if not all already has DOHC engines.
Also in terms of urban drivability I think the Nissan Micra comes out a straight forward winner amongst the hatches.

Pedaltothefloor · 30th March 2013, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Baddychat

I kind of agree with you on this. Ford's TDCI engine is outdated and a SOHC while most of the competition if not all already has DOHC engines.
Also in terms of urban drivability I think the Nissan Micra comes out a straight forward winner amongst the hatches.

You still haven't figured it out. Micra is absolutely not a driver's car.

Turbokick · 30th March 2013, 19:38

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Originally Posted by Pedaltothefloor

You still haven't figured it out. Micra is absolutely not a driver's car.

Its not about being driver's car.
Micra has got the most responsive engine closely followed by Figo. Both cars dont really suffer from turbolag like other diesel engines (mjd and crdi ). It makes these cars a breeze to drive in city traffic as one doesnt need to be too judicious with gearshift

Arch-Angel · 30th March 2013, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Pedaltothefloor

What makes you think TDCI is the champ?

My question was misunderstood grossly. It was a question as to why ford managed only 68 horses from a 1.4l block while other engines manage more. Also regarding the champ part, I believe drivability under crawling traffic is why I mentioned it that way.

Ford5 · 30th March 2013, 21:57

SOHC 8 valve (lesser breathing capability) 1399 cc engine with a small turbo tuned mainly for in city drivability is the reason this 1.4 block manages 68 horses. However as is widely known about this engine it can be pretty quick if you can shift gears quickly.

coldice4u · 30th March 2013, 22:04

I think the TDCI does not come with an intercooler & hence the lower output.

dmplog · 8th April 2013, 14:01

Folks - Enough of Micras, Figos, 1.3 vs 1.4 and curb weights!

I have a question that's related to Blue&Me. It's been 2 months with my Punto and I am not sure if I have figured out the bluetooth functionality completely.

I use a Nokia 500 phone. More often than not, the phone does not connect to Punto's Blue&Me system in the first attempt. Plainly put, if I enable bluetooth on my phone and start the vehicle, there is no guarantee that I will have handsfree dialing.

Sometimes, restarting my phone works - but only sometimes.

Has anybody faced similar problem?
Any any pointers / suggestions ?
What should I do (step-by-step process) to ensure that my phone connects to Blue&Me every time I crank up the engine?

28th March 2013, 07:13	#5688
srinath34 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: TecHalli Posts: 333 Thanked: 293 Times	Re: Fiat Grande Punto : Test Drive & Review Has anyone got any confirmation from the dealerships while enquiring for Punto/Linea that a new model refresh/facelift is coming on April 3rd. Read the above news in Motorbeam. Link below http://www.motorbeam.com/cars/fiat/2...rd-april-2013/ Looking forward to April 3rd now. Cheers, Srinath
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30th March 2013, 21:57	#5698
Ford5 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 501 Thanked: 338 Times	Re: Fiat Grande Punto : Test Drive & Review SOHC 8 valve (lesser breathing capability) 1399 cc engine with a small turbo tuned mainly for in city drivability is the reason this 1.4 block manages 68 horses. However as is widely known about this engine it can be pretty quick if you can shift gears quickly.
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30th March 2013, 22:04	#5699
coldice4u BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 395 Thanked: 824 Times	Re: Fiat Grande Punto : Test Drive & Review I think the TDCI does not come with an intercooler & hence the lower output.
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8th April 2013, 14:01	#5700
dmplog BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 313 Thanked: 388 Times	Re: Fiat Grande Punto : Test Drive & Review Folks - Enough of Micras, Figos, 1.3 vs 1.4 and curb weights! I have a question that's related to Blue&Me. It's been 2 months with my Punto and I am not sure if I have figured out the bluetooth functionality completely. I use a Nokia 500 phone. More often than not, the phone does not connect to Punto's Blue&Me system in the first attempt. Plainly put, if I enable bluetooth on my phone and start the vehicle, there is no guarantee that I will have handsfree dialing. Sometimes, restarting my phone works - but only sometimes. Has anybody faced similar problem? Any any pointers / suggestions ? What should I do (step-by-step process) to ensure that my phone connects to Blue&Me every time I crank up the engine?
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