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Old 20th December 2024, 21:34   #46
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Re: 2024 Honda Amaze Review

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I like the looks, I like the package, it's basically the same "Amaze" formula, improved & brought with the times for 2025.

MT to MT, I find the Dzire to be the superior, although I don't buy MTs anymore...and when it comes to ATs, the Amaze's trump card is really that butter-smooth CVT in a sea of jerky AMTs. I appreciate Honda never messing with the lame AMT gearbox, not even in their little Brio which got a torque converter!

Would buy the Amaze CVT or an EV if I wanted a car at this price point.
I am a happy 2G CVT owner and can confidently vouch for this transmission. Nil head nod, a refined engine- a pretty good combination at a reasonable price point.

It sometimes gets a rap due to the rubber-band effect. This is driving style-dependent & can be overcome in 2 ways:

1. Feather the throttle- avoid pedal to metal. This also helps the fuel efficiency immensely.
2. Use paddle shifters for sudden bursts of speed
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Re: 2024 Honda Amaze Review

Journey to select new Honda Amaze: my search for a budget auto car



Hi everyone,
After many months of search and test drives, I have finally booked a new Honda Amaze VX CVT model. Trying to pen down a few of my thoughts here.

The Search Begins

I am a 31 y/o working in a consulting company in Pune. I have an office cab service for commute, hence I had not paid much attention to getting my own car yet.

Since the start of 2024, me and my wife have been discussing about getting our own car mainly for comfort when we travel outstation from Pune.

Our initial discussion centered around car design and maintenance costs, but soon evolved into a deeper conversation about comfort, features, and the convenience of automatic transmission (as me and my wife both will be driving it). Having experienced various cars through Zoomcar rentals, I had developed a good sense of what I wanted in my next vehicle, which centers mostly on comfort and convenience rather than outride SPEED and POWER !!

The Contenders
Throughout this year we have done multiple trips via Zoomcar as well as taken up few test drives and read a lot of ownership experiences here on Team BHP.

I have considered the following cars during the selection process:

Tata Tiago AMT
The search started with a smaller hatchback, We rented a Tiago AMT for a one day trip to Bhimashankar from Pune. The car has compact dimensions perfect for city traffic and has good safety Though the AMT lag was noticeable and the engine noise was definitely on the higher side
Verdict
We dropped the idea for Tiago due to the vibrations as well as the noise.

Maruti Baleno AMT
I had taken a test drive for the Baleno as well as rented it through Revv for a 1 day trip (it was a brrand new 2024 car we got from Revv)
We liked the car's features as well as the engine is very smooth as compared to Tiago. It has great reliability as well as its Maruti so the mileage is obviously on higher side.
While it functionally worked well, my wife didn't like the design of the car (' it looks like a balloon from the back' was the quote )
Verdict
We decided to drop Baleno as the design was not liked.

Tata Altroz DCA

My wife as well as I have loved the design of Altroz (it is one of the if not THE best looking hatchback available now)
I have been following a thread by W.A.G.7 on this car's ownership and was impressed by the car (https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-...12-000-km.html

We had mostly finalized the Altroz and went to the Tata showroom nearby for a test drive, where it went wrong. We drove the DCA version and the Tata engine noise started creeping in. Also, we faced a few niggles in the test drive vehicle, which left a little bit of a bitter test. Compounding this with the overall Tata Motors QC related stories online. We decided to look for other more reliable cars.

Honda Amaze Gen2
I had read about the Honda Amaze on Team BHP as well as had seen youtube vides about its reliable CVT + IVETC combo. I did a test drive through a 1 day booking on zoomcar for a small trip to Jejuri near pune. Me and my wife both liked the cars drivability as well as the refined engine. It was a 2021 model and was well maintained. We loved the car and were thinking about it seriously.

Test drive 2:
I had a few doubts about the sedan's (a compact sedan) manoeuvrability in cities as well as wanted to check about the ground clearance as that was one of the most pronounced limitations of the vehicle. We booked Amaze CVT (2022 model) via Zoomcar for 5 days for a trip to Malvan in May 2024. We used the car during the travel through Pune & Kolhapur city traffic, Pune highway (although riddled with diversions) , driven through the Ghat section (Radhanagari route as well as Auskura ghat) as well as small and twisty roads in Malvan. Amaze's CVT transmission was a standout feature - it made city driving effortless and highway cruising pleasant. The car felt planted at higher speeds, and the overall refinement levels were superior to the AMT.

We got sold on the Amaze, I was reading about this car on Team BHP and read about its facelift coming up during this year's Diwali. We decided to wait for it to see how we like the updates / new design or if not then the older gen will be availble on discount.

Then it became a waiting game for the new gen release, we were not in a hurry to get a car, hence decided to wait.

Fast Forward to the new Amaze launch:

I had registered an interest in the new Amaze to the nearest Honda showroom (Deccan Honda, Pune). I got an invite to the new Amaze launch for the 4th Of Dec, I couldn't attend due to office work, though I took a test drive on the following Sunday.

Showroom visit and test drive experience:

We were welcomed to the Honda showroom by Mr Vikram, who was following up with me for the previous 2-3 months. We saw the newly launched model, which was showcased he explained to me the the features of the new model and key differences from the Previous Gen model.

We then took a test drive in a new Gen ZX CVT model in the newly launched Blue colour.

Key observations from the test drive:
  • I loved the overall design and build of the car, the engine when started was smooth
  • The Dashboard is simplistic yet functional, me and my wife liked it
  • The seats on the front as well as the back are comfortable. Liked the knee room on back, the front seats could have been given a bit more under-thigh support. Overall we liked the seating , though as these are fabric seats, cover should be added
  • The CVT gear lever has backlights now, which was one of my gripes with previous gen model specially during a night drive
  • Though the interiors looked premium, the feel is hard plastic
  • I tried hill-hold feature on a slope during the test drive and it worked flawlessly
  • SA told me that Honda had worked on the noise reduction, though i didn't find any significant improvement, I noticed slight road noise and engine noise (also a little bit of exhaust noise?) sipping through on the concrete road
  • The ride and refinement of the engine was impressive, though it takes its sweet time to accelerate
  • It had ADAS features but I was told that it is applicable at speed greater than 70/75 KM (maybe others can correct me here), I couldn't run at high speed continuously during the test drive [Also ADAS is not my requirement hence I didn't pay much attention to this feature]
  • I liked the lane watch camera feature, though the quality of the camera can be enhanced a bit. A reverse camera which has 3 view modes was sufficient and has static guidelines
  • We liked the sound quality when tested at end of the test drive and found it sufficient for us (SA showed us a feature where we can only keep the front driver side tweeter/speaker or only the front 2 speakers as needed when we don't want to disturb other)
  • The steering wheel felt slightly heavy at low speed, similar to previous gen
  • The boot is huge, though the wheel arches might impact on placing large bags in it

Overall we liked the car during the test drive as we are more focused on comfort and convenience than outright power.

We got a quote from Deccan Honda as well as other 2 dealerships in Pune for On Price for both Gen3 and Gen 2 model. Gen 2 top model consistently 1/1.2 lakh discount, though we liked this model hence, we decided to pursue Gen3 model quotations specifically for VX CVT model as ADAS is not in my use case.
We got OTR price north of 12.3 from each dealership.

We decided to dive deep and see what can be removed from quote e.g., Signature Package worth 41K - which is just chrome strips/linings, Extended warranty - till 7 years work 27K (we decied to keep 3 years warranty for now and take extended warranty during one of the services). Also, the dealer insurance was shown in 40-45K range.

We reached out to Deccan Honda as well as Crystal Honda dealers and checked the waiting period, and the pricing options. Deccan Honda was more receptive of reducing the options for ext warranty, keeping only basic accessory package and discussing insurance price.

We decided to visit the showroom again and plan for booking.

Which variant did we choose and why?
We chose VX CVT variant (mid-level auto variant) as we found it most value for money . It has the comfort of CVT along with lane watch camera, wireless charging, Auto climate AC etc features. It lacks the ADAS functions, which we didnt need and it gets the painted alloy wheels instead of diamond cut wheels (not a deal breaker for us).

Booking Experience:

We again went to the Deccan Honda Showroom on 15th Dec. We again checked the car and looked at any feature we missed earlier. Then while discussing the final quote, we decided to get insurance from outside (as I am getting quote of 25K from Policybazar instead of paying 45K). We aligned on the financing plan, we decided to add in EMI to reduce upfront burden. As I am eligible for BH numberplate, I also asked to incorporate that in the final OTR price checks. We are getting the final price of 10.45 L (+ external insurance of 25K).

Me and my wife liked the deal and decided to book the car.

Color conundrum:
We had not thought about the colour much, we liked the red, white as well as golden brown color from the Honda website. but still couldn't finalize. We decided to skip white colour and proceeded with keeping red/brown on the booking form for now.

We shared the necessary documents and paid 21K for booking and completed the formalities. The booking process was smooth, and the dealership experience has been professional so far.

Next planned steps:
  • Post booking, we have been given the Honda booklet with details and a WhatsApp group with multiple people from dealership has been created where they are sharing updates
  • Delivery has been tentatively told during the 3rd/4th week of Jan. We'll finalise the colour in the coming days. I wanted MY25 car and registered in 25, hence I am not in a hurry
  • We got an invite to 'Honda Enjoy Day' on 22 Dec, though we cant attend due to other personal comittment
  • We are parallelly working on financing options as well as form 60 for BH numberplate, which would help in the next stages

I know this is a very long post, hence thanks to everyone for reading this, I'll be updating this thread with PDI, delivery experience and subsequent ownership journey.


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Old 22nd December 2024, 10:50   #48
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Re: 2024 Honda Amaze Review

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I like the looks, I like the package, it's basically the same "Amaze" formula, improved & brought with the times for 2025...The Amaze's trump card is really that butter-smooth CVT in a sea of jerky AMTs. I appreciate Honda never messing with the lame AMT gearbox, not even in their little Brio which got a torque converter!

Would buy the Amaze CVT or an EV if I wanted a car at this price point.
Spot On! Did an extensive test drive of the CVT version yesterday and came back mighty impressed. Looks like a mini Honda City ( in a good way, especially from the rear), good fit and finish for the price, ergonomics, drive, ride and handling balance keeping the segment in mind. And great value for the price at which it comes, considering AMT options at same or higher price.
I would happily recommend this to anyone looking for a single or beater car (around 10/12 lacs) for predominantly our congested urban commutes. Power doesn't matter in bumper to bumper traffic as much as a calm, smooth and effortless drive does, which the Amaze delivers quite well.

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Old 22nd December 2024, 12:37   #49
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Now, with this, he could have thrown in i20 CVT in to the consideration (like someone compared i20 and Amaze in a post above) but he was clear on what he wanted.
Hey!

Sorry for comparing apples with oranges (premium hatch with a compact sedan). Since both the cars fall under a similar price range, I just wanted to highlight the Honda's lethargic attitude towards Indian market.

However, as you said, it may fulfill a few customers requirements.

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"Only car in the segment to offer a proper & smooth automatic transmission (CVT). All competitors have jerky AMTs"

"but we still didn't enjoy pushing this car due to the CVT's behaviour under heavy throttle input"

How does AMT behave under heavy throttle?
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"Only car in the segment to offer a proper & smooth automatic transmission (CVT). All competitors have jerky AMTs"

"but we still didn't enjoy pushing this car due to the CVT's behaviour under heavy throttle input"

How does AMT behave under heavy throttle?
Each has its own disadvantages.

AMT has head nod.
CVT has rubber band effect.

Under heavy throttle their respective drawback is more pronounced.
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How does AMT behave under heavy throttle?
AMT is a manual transmission underneath - so the shifts will be direct with no lag, the only problem is the unexpected mild jerks and the resultant headnod. DCTs exists just to solve that problem.

I would any day prefer a CVT for city use, but a proper AMT will be more responsive and fun to drive on the highways. Want the best compromise for both situations - Get a decent Torque Converter instead.

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Well, Please see below the AC went design of my Hycross:

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What is the big issues if some cues are classic in design terms. What matters more is, if the design is in cohesion with the rest of environment. In this new Amaze the design looks quite cohesive and classy .
If its not broke why fix it. Classical designs also have an ageless appeal. Honda as a brand is typically understated. More importantly are they delivering functionally?
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I test drove the 3rd gen Honda Amaze petrol CVT. Everything was good except the following:
  1. The position of the ORVMs is nasty and downright difficult to use. One needs to turn the head too much to see it. Looks like Honda has needlessly moved the ORVM location away from the door fulcrum, just to differentiate from the 2nd gen model. Unfortunately this makes it very cumborsome to use, arguably increasing risk (bcoz one needs to turn the head a bit more to see it).
  2. The quality of the mirror surface on the ORVM is very bad. It was straining my eyes. Now it could be possible that the TD vehicle had its ORVM mirror surface replaced with a non-OEM part.
  3. The driver side right arm-rest is a bit hard to use. Am unable to rest my elbow completely on it, partly due to the curving door surface, and partly due to the door panel ending too soon (well, for my seating position, atleast).

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TBHP Dec'24 car sales thread shows 3708 Amaze dispatches. This is an increase from previous monthly average of 2500. Lets see how it performs in sales.
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Journey to select new Honda Amaze: my search for a budget auto car

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Congratulations to you and your wife on selecting the Honda Amaze VX CVT which I presume is your first personal car.

Even I'm in a similar situation as yours albeit I'm looking for a car which would be a small token of gratitude to my adorable and lovely parents, my mother took a strong liking towards the new Dzire especially in white shade therefore I was also contemplating if I should also check out the newly launched Amaze.

Upon initial enquiry I was suggested to get the 2nd gen Amaze and they were giving some mouthwatering deals on the remaining stock, I asked for a TD of the same however I was left kinda disappointed with the same, the TD car even though run for only 7-8k kms had developed extremely hard clutch for a compact sedan with a tiny engine and had quite a bit of travel too, also the 1.2 i-VTEC suffers from poor low end torque delivery making urban commutes a chore with the MT, CVT is better pick obviously with Amaze.

Therefore may I ask you, were there any specific reasons why you didn't check out the new Dzire other than the fact it's an AMT equipped one? I TBH really LOVED driving the new Dzire MT. You can read my short review https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offic...ml#post5909893 (2024 Maruti Dzire Review)

I also intend to check out the new Amaze in the coming days since I'm giving some benefit of doubt to Honda and the new Amaze does deserve a proper TD before I come to an end conclusion, also even though you've booked the new Amaze with Deccan I ask you to get a quote for the same car through Crystal/Garve too since last time when one of my friend was evaluating a 5th gen City, Deccan quoted higher RTO charges for the same car than Crystal, so much so we asked the latter to double check on RTO tax, only to realise Deccan was overcharging us. I know you're going to take BH passing anyways but still be cautious on these small aspects.

Lastly I know it's a personal opinion but I feel the Amaze looks best in either Pearl White which you've crossed out or the Obsidian Blue paint shade which definitely lends it a more premium quotient, also Honda supplies Amaze with rubbish MRF tyres and I recommend you to swap them with something like Yokohama BluEarth GT right out of showroom for better grip and low road noise.

Looking forward to your new Amaze review!

Thank you
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Honda extends introductory prices for All New Amaze till 31st January 2025

With the launch of the all new Amaze sub 4m sedan, Honda Cars India Ltd has revamped its best-selling product. It was launched at an attractive starting price of Rs 7.99 lakh (Ex-sh). This was the introductory pricing and was set to change. However, Honda is extending this attractive introductory price till January 31st, 2025.

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The response to the All-New 3rd Generation Honda Amaze has been overwhelming with customers appreciating the model for its stylish design, premium appeal and segment-first & most affordable introduction of ADAS. This trust and admiration from our customers reaffirms our commitment to deliver exceptional value.

In response to this incredible demand and to show our gratitude, we are pleased to extend the new Amaze introductory prices of Rs. 7,99,900 onwards until 31st January 2025. This gives customers an excellent opportunity to own the Honda Amaze at its most attractive pricing.

We look forward to continuing to serve our customers with products that deliver exceptional quality, comfort and value. We urge our customers to visit Honda dealerships near them to experience the All-New Honda Amaze.” – Kunal Behl, Vice President, Marketing and Sales, Honda Cars India Ltd.

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Honda extends introductory prices for All New Amaze till 31st January 2025

With the launch of the all new Amaze sub 4m sedan, Honda Cars India Ltd has revamped its best-selling product. It was launched at an attractive starting price of Rs 7.99 lakh (Ex-sh). This was the introductory pricing and was set to change. However, Honda is extending this attractive introductory price till January 31st, 2025.

Statement from Honda Cars India Limited
The response to the All-New 3rd Generation Honda Amaze has been overwhelming with customers appreciating the model for its stylish design, premium appeal and segment-first & most affordable introduction of ADAS. This trust and admiration from our customers reaffirms our commitment to deliver exceptional value.

In response to this incredible demand and to show our gratitude, we are pleased to extend the new Amaze introductory prices of Rs. 7,99,900 onwards until 31st January 2025. This gives customers an excellent opportunity to own the Honda Amaze at its most attractive pricing.

We look forward to continuing to serve our customers with products that deliver exceptional quality, comfort and value. We urge our customers to visit Honda dealerships near them to experience the All-New Honda Amaze.” – Kunal Behl, Vice President, Marketing and Sales, Honda Cars India Ltd.

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I think it is the other way around. Response night have been so sluggish that they had to extend introductory offer. Honestly this should be the standard price until demand stabilizes.
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I am not certain about the reason of press release; they could have continued without doing that or could have done the MG Windsor way that the introductory price will be available for first “X” customers.
If one looks at the sales data of Amaze from the new generation. Let’s assume Nov and December of 2024, the dealer shipments were 2628 and 3708 respectively, which is nothing substantial compared to the last generation. On what basis the press release is creating hype?

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In response to this incredible demand and to show our gratitude, we are pleased to extend the new Amaze introductory prices of Rs. 7,99,900 onwards until 31st January 2025.
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