[Sarvodaya]

And the award for the 'Most Worst Launch of 2024' goes to X Trail. And we thought Citroen was the leader in worst launches, now overtaken by X Trail

[Haze]

Honestly, I'm quite surprised by the cynicism and skepticism of some of the people here.

This car was the 8th best selling car in the whole of USA. (Source: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g4...ing-cars-2023/ ).
Heck, it outsold the venerable Toyota Corolla.

And if it it's good enough for the ultra-spoilt for choice Americans, I dare say it's good enough for (you and) me.

I just hope they brought the dual tone white and black color scheme.

[suhaas307]

Smells like another DOA product to me.

Unfortunate, considering the sophisticated engine with its variable compression tech and all that jazz.

It’s a nice car that will likely succumb to high pricing and lack of a diesel powertrain. Most people would rather get a Harrier / Safari / XUV 700 / Hycross or a Kodiaq (if they are feeling a bit adventurous).

[VwRabbit]

This car’s main competitor would have been the CR-V, always felt the X-Trail had some traits of the Honda be it in size, the rear pillar light etc however this generation of the X-Trail looks more different but still has the Nissan design quirkiness to it which some might like, personally I find it nice but since it’s coming via the CBU route pricing may go against it.
Interior fit finish and quality at least from the pictures looks better than the Hycross in my opinion but instead of the mild hybrid could have done with a strong one, Škoda should learn from this and put small capacity engine with hybrid in the Kodiaq instead of big thirsty TSI or bring the diesel.

[starke]

Don't worry, this is just a 150 limited number CBU import which the corporate managers would just buy themselves.

Remaining few other units goes to major showroom as a show-car so they can keep their Magnite sales momentum with a facelift this year till proper India bound SUV launch around 2025/26.

With those limited numbers, I don't think it can never called as sales success/failure since their whole intention is to keep it as an attention garner to keep the momentum.

One merit is that they can now do some India scenario vehicle testing and can think about localizing it in the future.

The lack of features are to cut the cost of licensee registration (For example, their new infotainment uses Google as OS and they would need get licenses in India to use it) and I wonder the launch price would be!!

[grevvity]

I’m driving a fully loaded version of the X-Trail here in Australia, and I can easily say it’s an absolute delight to drive, with amazing features. It’s disappointing to see a watered-down version being launched in India at such a high expected price

[rkv_hunter]

I think this will be launched between 25 to 30 lacs ex-showroom, my guess is 28.99 lacs. They have purposely put stories of 35-40 lacs to anchor people on those figures and make the car feel cheaper when launched.

At that price it will be able to sell the numbers they have imported. However there is no rational reason to buy it over the XUV700 or the Hycross after paying even 5lacs more other than plastic quality given CBU, standing out in the road and better mileage in petrol compared to XUV albeit with much lower power.

[vamsi.vadrevu]

Originally Posted by Haze

This car was the 8th best selling car in the whole of USA. (Source: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g4...ing-cars-2023/ ).
Heck, it outsold the venerable Toyota Corolla.

And if it it's good enough for the ultra-spoilt for choice Americans, I dare say it's good enough for (you and) me.

The American Nissan Rogue had multiple variants, a rear wheel drive version and a more powerful engine (about 40 BHP more) than this. Also Americans don't have to worry about E20 compliance. This alone is enough for people to look elsewhere.

And it is around 24 lakhs to 35 lakhs for them. At that pricing it's a good value for money even in India. But because it's a CBU, Nissan won't be able to price it at par.

Unlike Americans, Indians aren't price conscious, they're value conscious. And not having service centers or good service is considered as lack of value.

The Americans don't have these problems. Nissan is an established brand with lots of service centers and mechanics that understand the vehicle and it is produced in USA, so they wouldn't have problems with spare parts availability. And another factor is that Nissan typically sells their cars at lower interest rates than competition and they price them better. So the Rogue probably became one of the best seller not based on the merit of the product but because most Nissan buyers just couldn't buy anything else. For many Americans, the Rogue is a family SUV. And for India, the family SUVs are typically below 20 lakhs utilitarian stuff. Also, most Americans buying this aren't very well informed. Indian buyers are quite well informed especially at this price range. In India we don't have any of these advantages. So it'll be a bad choice for Indians.

Most brands make the mistake of underestimating the knowledge that Indian buyers possess. Even if all the Indians do not understand the technical stuff, we perfectly understand value for money. This is where Nissan had to work.

[ph03n!x]

Originally Posted by Haze

...
And if it it's good enough for the ultra-spoilt for choice Americans, I dare say it's good enough for (you and) me.
...

That's probably what Ford and GM thought

Originally Posted by vamsi.vadrevu

...

Unlike Americans, Indians aren't price conscious, they're value conscious.
...

Most brands make the mistake of underestimating the knowledge that Indian buyers possess. Even if all the Indians do not understand the technical stuff, we perfectly understand value for money. This is where Nissan had to work.

You hit the nail on the head

[sam264_2000]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

Unless this is priced on par with likes of Tata Safari/XUV700 2WD, XTrail will be one of the worst launches in recent times. ....

Originally Posted by sharmanova

...Unless they price X-Trail close to XUV700/Safari, this is gonna be D-O-A!

Originally Posted by Skorp_Knight

Like some others who pointed out that any price above XUV700/ Safari would be DOA.....

Originally Posted by sunilch

....The on-road price has to be under 25L. Ideally 20L....

Agreed. This car should not be priced beyond 25L on road. Given the feature set, even 25L on road seems quite high but Nissan can try their luck with 25L. Else, consider 2 digit sales figures.

[Haze]

Originally Posted by vamsi.vadrevu

The American Nissan Rogue had multiple variants, a rear wheel drive version and a more powerful engine (about 40 BHP more) than this. Also Americans don't have to worry about E20 compliance. This alone is enough for people to look elsewhere.

And it is around 24 lakhs to 35 lakhs for them. At that pricing it's a good value for money even in India. But because it's a CBU, Nissan won't be able to price it at par.

Unlike Americans, Indians aren't price conscious, they're value conscious. And not having service centers or good service is considered as lack of value.

The Americans don't have these problems. Nissan is an established brand with lots of service centers and mechanics that understand the vehicle and it is produced in USA, so they wouldn't have problems with spare parts availability. And another factor is that Nissan typically sells their cars at lower interest rates than competition and they price them better. So the Rogue probably became one of the best seller not based on the merit of the product but because most Nissan buyers just couldn't buy anything else. For many Americans, the Rogue is a family SUV. And for India, the family SUVs are typically below 20 lakhs utilitarian stuff. Also, most Americans buying this aren't very well informed. Indian buyers are quite well informed especially at this price range. In India we don't have any of these advantages. So it'll be a bad choice for Indians.

Most brands make the mistake of underestimating the knowledge that Indian buyers possess. Even if all the Indians do not understand the technical stuff, we perfectly understand value for money. This is where Nissan had to work.

So much miss-information in this post, I don't even know where to start.

The Rogue does not have a RWD version.
They do have AWD, but it's front biased, like Audi's system.

The Rogue is the highest selling crossover in New York, arguably the richest state of USA.

And if it's poor people buying Nissan's why don't the Versa, the Sentra and the Kicks outsell it?

To me, this is the second best crossover in USA, after the RAV4, but Toyota demands an insane premium for their badge.

Also I'd love to your source for Nissan being unable to price it between 24-35.

Infact I'd put my money on this being at 26.99 L.


And I'm legit at the thought that Indian buyers are more well informed than Americans.

[sarathlal]

For those who are having doubt on why so much of a negative traction here, forget about the intricate details, but launching a three year old model of a global product, that too in only its base model, shows nothing but a callous attitude to the market.

In addition, the path being CBU, there is little excuse of not choosing the best model for the purpose. It's not hate towards Nissan, but the determined attitude of negligence that's hitting us hard. Our market is not a dumping yard.

Take a look at Volvo. They were very slow in launching the XC40 recharge, but by the time it launched eventually, they made sure our market is given the top variant of the latest iteration. That shows intent.

[m_proper]

Not comparing, but isn't this what Toyota (Fortuner) is doing in India. Very expensive product with minimal features? I am not disagreeing that this is next level non-VFM launch, but to generalize my question, is this a Japanese auto industry strategy?

[White bird]

This is not a new model. This is a model that is being withdrawn from the international market.

[Raghu M]

Keeping some essential features side, I think the design is pretty cool. A timeless one from all angles. Really love the way it looks.