[nettooran]

Nissan X-trail price annoucement is quite like the financial budget presented by the govt. You know that that this is gonna be on expected lines , and still you keep a glimmer of hope , hoping for some magic. But alas, things turn our as you expected , and still you get mad.

[horseblood]

Originally Posted by Axe77

To get a halo effect with halo pricing you need to mate it with a halo product. There is nothing halo about a 3 cylinder 4x2 crossover with fabric seats.

Originally Posted by arindambasu13

If Nissan indeed believes this to be a halo product, then they really need to get their definition of halo product straight. This is nothing more than an unexciting humdrum addition to the SUV bandwagon, with uninteresting engine, pedestrian looks and no real USP to speak of, that too at high pricing.

Originally Posted by ac 427

In that case, Either you or Nissan needs to understand the definition of a Halo Product.

It is the top of the line, no hold barred, top tech, top innovation, top value, best of the best that the company can offer.

Why Halo products? As it creates as impression about the brand, ...oh the GTR has every engine made by master technician and so on....

What Nissan is doing isn't introducing a Halo product, but infact considering Indians a fool and think we will buy anything at any price

Again, Calm down guys!

1) Nobody is holding a gun to your head to buy this thing at this price. Nobody is stopping you from doing so either.

2) If anybody is holding out their breath for the GTR, I suggest you better have a doc on standby! Not happening. If you so desire, don't expect it to be priced as an Octavia (even the CBU one).

3) When Nissan had announced their intention to bring this as a CBU, I don't know what price people were expecting! Either they don't know what CBU entails or are too unrealistically hopeful.

4) As far as halo goes, I think products like X-Trail, Qashqai, Juke are meant to be halo for the general Indian public (read car buyer, who can only think of budget offerings like Magnite in the name of Nissan in India) & inline with the present market preferences which is why they are all crossovers/SUVs & not sedans to impress the people on this forum who are already familiar with Nissan's heritage & global lineup. Hopefully people get the context instead of sharpening their blades!

While one could complain over the missing/subpar features like the 3 cylinder unit (BTW have you even TDed this) & what not, stop behaving naively as if Nissan owes this forum anything or as if people here are the only market in India. Had that been the case, VW would be close to where maruti is while Tata wouldn't even earn the right to exist let alone be at #3.

No offense meant to anyone but I'm just an ardent follower of realism.

Cheers!

[Comrade]

During the initial years of team-bhp, a phrase used to thrown around a lot: "I don't know what these guys are smoking". Maybe it is an apt phrase right now right here.

[chhotagujju]

Most likely Nissan may end up allotting some of these cars to their top management. Since they dont have any high range cars in India which can be used by their higher management.

[blogslogger]

Originally Posted by horseblood

While one could complain over the missing/subpar features like the 3 cylinder unit (BTW have you even TDed this) & what not, stop behaving naively as if Nissan owes this forum anything or as if people here are the only market in India. Had that been the case, VW would be close to where maruti is while Tata wouldn't even earn the right to exist let alone be at #3.

No offense meant to anyone but I'm just an ardent follower of realism.

Cheers!

The whole purpose of a forum is to discuss. Every car is a function of price, features, and engineering.

Most of the recent flops got atleast one aspect right. X- Trail got none right. And Indian buyers are not naïve. Halo, by definition, is aspirational. Ask why people buy Land Rovers. Technically unreliable, but it makes them feel good. So as long as a car satisfies atleast one aspect—the price, features and engineering part, the market appreciates it. CBU or not. Lauch a Safari Patrol or Armada with a V8, price it at 3 crores—people will buy it due to sheer desirability.

And people in this forum aspire to own good cars one day. It is mostly our future selves critiquing hare-brained launches like this.

[AnnaRocks]

While I wasn't much excited about this launch, primarily because of the CBU factor, I can't stop thinking about what could have transpired. Did someone from our country's Budget planning team join Nissan? They must have sat down and thought, "How can we make people feel nostalgic and overcharge them at the same time?" Are they charging this premium for a time machine that makes you feel like you're sitting in a car with cutting-edge technology from a decade ago?

It's practically a masterclass in how not to price a car, even for a CBU. I feel like the sales of Kodiaqs and Glosters and even Fortuner will improve once people compare it with X-Trail. Nissan, if you haven't already shipped all the units of this car to India, please stop immediately and save the cost of transport(and the discounts you will need to sell these) for future launches.

[vredesbyrd]

I'll pick one Nissan X-Fail up for 2-3L in a few years

[Gupts007]

It just beats me that how can so many well paid (assuming) professionals at Nissan can get it so wrong.
Was there nobody in a senior position who could see and point out how poorly this would turn out to be and how catastrophically it would fail? Are they totally disconnected with the ground reality & competition?

You couldn't put a gun to my head and make me spend 50 lac rupees on a vehicle with 3 cylinder engine, unless it has dual electric motors supplementing the power. It almost feels like that Nissan abroad and Nissan India are different entities. The future of Nissan here remains in jeopardy unless they do their homework properly.

[dtox]

If only 150 CBUs are allocated for India, most probably they will be lapped up by the dealer principals themselves at a great 'internal' discount, assuming that they still have 150 standalone dealers in India running their business. Liquidation of the stock might still happen!

[nimbus1]

I don't think this decision has come from Nissan India Management to bring this car to our shores, for the reasons read below.

1) Nissan India is not a money-making unit or not as much as Nissan would like. Hence, they don't have the say or upper hand on the product that they need for India.

2) No one in their right mind would miss out on features that India wants, so the management is well aware.

3) With this gasping breath whatever comes their way they are forced to lap up or should I say it is forced down their throat.

Why X-Trail is here there at such a price point?

1) Somone in the parent company has come up with this brilliant idea " Lets dump the old units to India and make some money", first increase the price at which some fan boy will want to lap it up and there are few I can say and then throw away the rest with a discount.

2) Job done, promotion secured and now wonder if the brand can survive in India basis this or not.

3) Now since you have launched old X-Trail in India at such a stupid price, you cannot really bring the newer ones at a significant lesser price. You have basically killed the brand; we might get a cheap X-Trail which might be a different car branded as X- Trail or Y-Trail (your guess really).

4) This really shows the intent


For a brand that thinks India is a perfect place to resurrect a dead brand like Datsun which is also ultra cheap and basically a tin can, you don't have to go too far to understand the view Nissan has on India.

[Apolo4409]

Fainting at the price tag isn’t a new phenomenon in the car community in India these days. Second hand vehicles and new vehicles have all post COVID gone up in value. It looks like someone told Nissan this and decided charging a few times what such a car is worth would be a good idea. This car’s features list looks more at par with the old safari than a 60L luxury car. 1.5L with a DCT and cylinder deactivation is what VW AG provides at under 25L.

I humbly request anyone who has decided to buy this car and is seriously considering it to please share your reasons, I love Nissan as a brand and it’s one brand who deserves better in the global market but decisions like this make it hard to support them. Their flagship Patrol and NISMO cars are some of my favorite Japanese cars. I can’t even justify the price tag even if I could afford to burn off a 60L on a car that by my guess will depreciate by 50% in the first year. This car is worth 25L maximum and it will still be hard sell based on the lack of features. The T Roc retailed at that price, it came with a 1.5L turbo with better features albeit in a smaller car but that can was acceptable given it was a proper German car.

If anyone has any connections in Nissan or know for sure why and who decided this was a good idea and approved it, please share

[horseblood]

Mod Note: No need for such a rude or strong post please. Request to continue being polite, calm & respectful, even in debates.

[locusjag]

I used to own a Nissan Rogue in the US (sigh, good old days) and the X-trail is the same flower by another name.

The Rogue was good, it was not costly, it had AWD and it did everything I asked of it reliably even in slippery cold conditions. I eventually got a great resale value on it when returning to India.

But the same flower by another name right now doesn't smell sweet to me anymore. My Rogue in the US was the equivalent of a HH Splendor on our roads today. I know it is a CBU, but still cannot make peace with its 50 lakh price tag. I have a cognitive dissonance in my mind right now because I have never been a 50 lakh car guy by any imagined stretch of my finances.

[blogslogger]

My best bet is that no body here is against a 3-pot motor. A well engineered one is something which everyone appreciates. Even Koenigsegg Gemera has a 3-pot motor. X-Trail has an unusually complicated engine which is documented to have issues. And to add insult to injury, it is not E-20 compliant. Gemera is a hypercar which sees the road once every year during a special ocassion. X-Trail is meant to be a family car. Having that kind of engine without exhaustive. testing in India is something that doesnt sit well. Even Toyota with its R&D might struggled with its BS6 Diesels.

Except for the engine, the other features are not even adequate for a 30Lakh car, let alone a 60 Lakh one.

I stand by my statement that X-Trail hasnt got any redeeming qualities. It is not in a vacuum. Everyone here is right in comparison with Fortuner, Kodiaq, Tuscon, Tiguan, Meridian, X1 and Q3. Every car mentioned has something going for it.

Nissan is expensive for the sake of it. That is what people are worried about.

Having owned multiple cars across countries, I hope my vision is broad enough to know when sub-par products are brought to India. It is plain common sense.

A good car is one that fulfills a set of needs for a particular group of customers. I am sure we are all reasonably happy with the current cars. X-Trail is not a car that anyone will be happy with, nor would one aspire to own.

[@PetrolheadASH]

If ever one is looking for a case study on how to kill a great brand, look no further. With such atrocious pricing for a product that is sub par in every way when compared to the excellent rival line up, only three letters surmise- R.I.P.

Nissan should fire whoever is behind this.