[Phantom 510]

Originally Posted by DriverNo.420

Contrary to the popular opinion, I think 3 cylinder engines sounds sportier than 4 cylinder when driving hard. Vibrations will get better over time as the engine runs in and gets some oil changes, but is that sporty sound a good trade-off for better power delivery and unmatched refinement that the K12 Dual-Jet engine provided?

People call it thrummy or whatever. But I find three cylinders to be more characterful especially the naturally aspirated ones by MSIL with their raspy note while accelerating. It makes for a fun driving experience even while driving at mediocre speeds IMO.

[Phantom 510]

Originally Posted by Vikram9193

This is true but I must confess to being worried. I clearly remember that our second gen Honda City was a disappointing car when I drove it in the twisties compared to the underpowered Punto 1.2, but vastly superior in everyday drivability. Our Jimny is also like this, all the everyday performance you need below 3k rpm, but revving it out feels like a chore. I don’t think the Swift will be that bad though!

The 1.2L Z-series with its longer stroke will certainly make its presence during the daily drives with its readily available torque in the low to mid revs IMO.

[TusharK]

2024 Maruti Swift CNG launch could be a few months away

Earlier this month, Maruti Suzuki launched the fourth-generation Swift in India. Just like other models in the brand's line-up, the Swift will also get a CNG option.



With the new Swift, Maruti debuted the Z-series 1.2-litre, 3-cylinder petrol engine. This unit produces 80 BHP and 112 Nm. The overall output though, is expected to be affected when running on CNG. It is likely to be offered only with a manual transmission.

Maruti Suzuki claims the new Z-series engine is 10% more fuel efficient than the old K-series unit. This could also translate into better fuel efficiency when running on CNG.

The Swift CNG is expected to be offered in select variants. That being said, it will be more expensive than the corresponding petrol variants.

Source: Autocar India

Link to Team-BHP news

[swiftez]

Originally Posted by nidhin0816

After looking at this, I have one more reason not to sell my 1st Gen Swift which turns 15.

It's now a living Legend

Same thought. more reasons not to sell the OG swift! 13y old fine wine she is!
Is it only for me that this 4th gen looks more Datsun Go than Swift

[am1m]

With each 'new' Swift release, there seems to be this irresistible nostalgia and yearning for the 'previous gen' or 'original. Now, looks will always be subjective, no point debating that. But is there a page or spec sheet that actually crunches the numbers? Was the 1st Gen/2nd Swift the quickest to 60kmph, 100kmph? Let's say for one particular variant- Petrol, Manual. Or is the difference marginal?

[am1m]

Originally Posted by am1m

Was the 1st Gen/2nd Swift the quickest to 60kmph, 100kmph? Let's say for one particular variant- Petrol, Manual. Or is the difference marginal?

Answering this question:

"However, in our VBOX tests, we managed to do 0-60kmph in 6.06 seconds and 0-100kmph in 14.7 seconds in the MT."

"...but then you also have to come to terms with the fact that the first generation Swift did a 0-100kmph time of 13.9 seconds. It was faster 19 years ago."

Source:
https://www.evoindia.com/top-news/20...t-drive-review

Almost a second quicker to 100, that is pretty significant and I now think the nostalgia is warranted.

[jetsetgo08]

Did the Swift really require the Z12 engine? They could have just launched it as a facelift. The difference in ARAI FE is only about +1.5kmpl , did this really warrant a new engine? They could have gone the strong hybrid route with Z12 and still keep the K12 for a few variants . Besides, the K12 does not really have a host of negatives going for it. They could have spent a bit of R&D effort to make it compliant with future emission norms and still retain it.

And no way a 3-cylinder could sound sportier than a 4-cylinder. While motorcycles are going the way of adding cylinders, I am surprised the car manufacturers are leaning towards cost cutting by dropping cylinders.
Point to keep in mind is that the Z12 might soon replace the heart of all the other 1.2L Maruti's.

[shresan23]

I would like to see how the engine holds up. I would like to see if the minute reduction in power, really makes a difference wrt., the outgoing model.

Besides, as far as interior is concerned, i think MS is upping their game. Lets see which one is the most VFM variant.

The touchscreen with those bezels is not that good. I hate it. The bezel however, has its uses. Its a place to keep your hands and then tap the required area, without worrying about accidental touches.

99% sure that the aforementioned is not the reason for those bezels (from MS side) but it is an added bonus for them i guess.

I have always looked down upon 3 cylinders. Lack of respiration and whatnot.

Its a mixed bag for me. If i had 10 lakhs to invest, i would wait and see how this goes. Maybe take a couple of test drives, look for other cars and then decide

[TheSMG]

Got a test drive of New Swift Z12E MT. The engine as mentioned have vibrations while firing up. However, engine pulls cleanly and sounds good but it is gruff and nowhere as smooth as the K12 series 4 cylinders. The suspensions are a bit more soft than the ongoing car at low speeds but still stiff enough to feel the road undulations. The steering is not as precise as the previous gen. Moreover, they have omitted driver seat height adjustment from the VXi trim . Being a hot summer afternoon with temperatures around 40-42 Deg C, AC was not effective during a short test drive.

[100Kmphormore]

Pointless launch honestly, if one still yearns for the previous gen. My colleague who owns a 2016 Swift VDi called the 3rd gen launch in 2018 out as one of the worst built cars ever compared to his, and I agree. The engine + design + handling = 5 stars. That new design is not helping (saw it in person) and with this engine, they are digging themselves into the ground. The 2nd gen was an excellent handler and a very comfortable fuel efficient car too.

The missing DDiS200 is already well felt, and reflects in the used car market compared to the 3rd gen, which are smooth movers, but the 2nd gen resale value is crazy, with 2014-15 ABS models run almost 1 lakh km demanding the very price they were bought for.

[TusharK]

Maruti Suzuki has received over 40,000 bookings for the new Swift since it was launched in the Indian market.



The new-gen Swift was launched on May 9, 2024. Since then, the Maruti Suzuki has sold 19,393 units, making it the brand's highest-selling model in its debut month. Manual transmission variants make up 83% of the total bookings.

Partho Banerjee, Senior Executive Officer, Marketing & Sales, Maruti Suzuki India Limited, said, "We have right now introduced the petrol variant (of the Swift), the CNG variant has not yet been introduced. 40,000 bookings just for Petrol is a very good response, and we’re seeing good traction for the Swift in the first month of launch."

The Maruti Swift is available with a new Z-series 1.2-litre, 3-cylinder petrol engine that produces 80 BHP @ 5,700 rpm and 112 Nm @ 4,300 rpm. The engine is paired with either a 5-speed manual or a 5-speed AMT.

Link to Team-BHP News

[wheelspinner]

I am surprised about the market sentiment. They took one of the best hot hatches in India, put an inferior 3 cylinder engine with lower power figures, and likely more vibrations. Yet, people keep buying more of it.

[tharian]

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

I am surprised about the market sentiment. They took one of the best hot hatches in India, put an inferior 3 cylinder engine with lower power figures, and likely more vibrations. Yet, people keep buying more of it.

That is because majority of the buyers are not bothered about what kind of engine it has. They are bothered about the looks, fuel efficiency and that it is a Swift from Maruti and Maruti knows this and they cater to these buyers.

[RoadMonkey]

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

I am surprised about the market sentiment. They took one of the best hot hatches in India, put an inferior 3 cylinder engine with lower power figures, and likely more vibrations. Yet, people keep buying more of it.

That's just numbers. I was similarly disappointed when I looked at the figures and thought MSIL had downgraded a fantastic car. I recently took a TD of both Fronx 1.2L and Swift 1.2 and let me tell you, the swift with Z series feels far more lively. There are no "more vibrations" the power maybe less but it is more accessible lower down. The gearbox is a significant improvement and to quote a fellow BHPian feels like made by gods themselves. The new Swift should not be judged on paper but must be experienced.

[coldice4u]

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

I am surprised about the market sentiment. They took one of the best hot hatches in India, put an inferior 3 cylinder engine with lower power figures, and likely more vibrations. Yet, people keep buying more of it.

Absolutely nothing surprising. A miniscule percentage of the buyers actually care about how sporty is a car to drive. The badge, looks, features and FE is all that matters to the bulk of the buyers.