[Shiv_Hyd]

Excellent review. Very precise & crisp to the point.

But sadly that is all there is to write about the New X1. I can't really understand how cars of lower categories offer so much features in their cars but the luxury ones don't.
For example, the Harrier Top end costs around 30 odd lakhs on road but it has got everything. Comparingly the new X1 has not even half the features. I do understand the fit & finish, material quality, QC everything plays a vital role in the price. But if the X1 had all the same features of the Harrier and if it costs around 63L (double of the Harrier), I think the price excess of 33L could easily justify the build quality, QC, brand value, etc.

Hoping for FTA between India and Europe for the European car prices to come down at affordable levels.

[Bsreecharan]

Originally Posted by Rookie_Jeeper

Great review as always. Compass also comes with the same 225 55R18 size Turanzas as stock and I find them decent too. There aren't a lot of tyre options in this size. Vredestein Ultrac Vorti is similarly priced since they're owned by Appolo and are made in India but others from Pirelli etc are quite expensive.

I have a question and I know it is not like to like comparison when we take into account things like brand value but since I own a Jeep Compass, I am just curious.

Purely from a handling and driving dynamics perspective how much of an upgrade X1 actually is compared to Compass, Tucson etc.? If we restrict ourselves to the diesel powertains, torque and power numbers for the X1 are actually same/inferior. So for Compass and Tucson owners to feel like an upgrade do they need to skip one segment and directly buy the X3 now? Interested to know the thoughts of BHPians who have driven these cars.

I drive a Jeep Compass AT 4X4 and my brother has an X1 Previous generation. I have driven his car. The biggest difference is how effortless X1 feels on open roads when driving at 3 digit speeds and overtaking situations. JC is just not tuned like that. BMW is made to put a smile on your face with every tap on the accelerator. Tucson is a value based car for sure and the way its engine and gear box are tuned is fabulous, including the engine refinement and NVH levels. I feel X1 is still an upgrade from Jeep Compass for that refinement and engine - gearbox alignment.

[Rookie_Jeeper]

Originally Posted by Bsreecharan

I drive a Jeep Compass AT 4X4 and my brother has an X1 Previous generation

Thanks for sharing but I guess the key here is that you have driven the previous gen X1.

If I am not wrong, while the previous X1 diesel got 190hp, this one gets just 150hp.

[Bsreecharan]

Originally Posted by Rookie_Jeeper

Thanks for sharing but I guess the key here is that you have driven the previous gen X1.

If I am not wrong, while the previous X1 diesel got 190hp, this one gets just 150hp.

I still believe BMW's effortless driving characteristics to be far superior. I am test driving the new X1 next will so I can say it with bit more confidence. Hardcore Jeep fans say that the lethargic tuning of gear box and the engine is because Jeep is an offroad vehicle. However, I have not heard anything spectacular either from the new 4x2 AT that was launched. I find BMWs to be very agile and quick on their feet.

[SatishChour]

Thank you for the detailed review!

I was planning to buy a 2023 BMW X1, and I am glad that I found a review for it on Team-Bhp to help me decide.

The UK car market is different to that of India. The cheapest, decent car you can buy here is the Dacia Duster which starts at 15L but has a 3-star safety rating.
If you want to buy a decent-sized family car (say above 4200mm length and 1800mm width), you have to shelve out upwards of 30L.
Once you enter the 30L+ territory, it is filled with options like MG HS, Skoda Karoq, Hyundai Tuscon, Kia Sportage and then the luxury brands like BMW X1, and Audi Q3 also fall in the same range.

Unless you need a 7-seater, why would anyone buy a Skoda Kodiaq for 37L, when you can get a BMW X1 or a Q3 for the same price?

The reason I am ranting about the UK car market and the price factor is, how the price tag of 60L onroad in Bangalore is just not justified for a mid-sized SUV like the X1.

If these German luxury car manufacturers want to make an impact with big numbers in the 4th largest car market in the world, they should bring down the costs of their cars to match the ever-growing competition which provides more for less. "Make in India" is probably one solution and I am sure they will benefit from the investments they will have to make for it.

[Guri]

Hello, checking if anyone has experienced the AC performance of X1 petrol in extreme heat/sunny weather? My concern is that would 1.5L Petrol engine be good enough to cool the X1 cabin in extreme weather? If yes then would it make the mileage and pickup impacted? I'm attempting to upgrade from Octavia 2019 L&K Petrol to X1 in NCR and petrol makes sense else XUV or Harrier diesel. Looking for a quiet cabin - no road/tire/traffic noise and drives primarily in an urban setup of NCR.

Thanks in advance!

[we_pull]

Originally Posted by Guri

Hello, checking if anyone has experienced the AC performance of X1 petrol in extreme heat/sunny weather? My concern is that would 1.5L Petrol engine be good enough to cool the X1 cabin in extreme weather? If yes then would it make the mileage and pickup impacted? I'm attempting to upgrade from Octavia 2019 L&K Petrol to X1 in NCR and petrol makes sense else XUV or Harrier diesel. Looking for a quiet cabin - no road/tire/traffic noise and drives primarily in an urban setup of NCR.

Thanks in advance!

I drove the petrol version quite a bit during July-Sep time frame, before buying in Oct. No issues at all with the AC and cools quick enough.

[we_pull]

Any recent buyers here for the M-Sport petrol version? It will be great if someone can confirm that the front door sills (scuff plates) are present in your car or not. My car doesn't have those, and i noticed today almost a month after taking delivery. The SA tells me that these have been removed by the company recently. Given my experience with this dealership, cannot trust them at face value. Please suggest.

[Guri]

Originally Posted by we_pull

Any recent buyers here for the M-Sport petrol version? It will be great if someone can confirm that the front door sills (scuff plates) are present in your car or not. My car doesn't have those, and i noticed today almost a month after taking delivery. The SA tells me that these have been removed by the company recently. Given my experience with this dealership, cannot trust them at face value. Please suggest.

That's good input, any check-list to follow to ensure we are not taken for a ride by the BMW dealer for X1 M-sport Petrol in NCR?

[el lobo 6061]

Originally Posted by SatishChour

If these German luxury car manufacturers want to make an impact with big numbers in the 4th largest car market in the world, they should bring down the costs of their cars to match the ever-growing competition which provides more for less. "Make in India" is probably one solution and I am sure they will benefit from the investments they will have to make for it.

Problem is the very high taxation in India.

More than 30%-50% of car price we pay is only taxes. Once you include road tax, etc.

E.g. Back in Mar 2018, BMW F48 X1 20d of the total ex-showroom cost after discount of Rs 30 lakh, 12 lakh wax tax only. BMW was selling it at Rs 18 lakh pre-tax.

Govt of India considers luxury cars as sin goods.

[sharktale]

Originally Posted by sharktale

A heart-over-head decision by all my family members

BMW has discontinued the xLine Variant on this vehicle from 2024. Only the M Sport version is available now with Petrol and Diesel engines.

We had to switch ours as well. Initially, we thought it was a dealer level issue. But we called up dealers in Mumbai and Delhi as well and they all had a similar response.

I must say, our sales experience buying our first luxury vehicle has been more under-whelming than expected. :|

[corpArMa32]

Always hated this entry-level segment of "Luxury brands". Especially in India these cars are such a horrible VFM option that it screams of people unable to afford a better car settling for these cars just for the badge. This look makes it an even worse VFM.

[girish.purswani]

Despite apprehensions and the numerous posts I read about the x1 , I’ve made the plunge. I test drove both 18d and 18i on the entire Worli sea face stretch and even the sea link , I don’t think I need more power than the cars provided considering my car is primarily going to be city driven and in most cases under traffic conditions. The 18d initial torque does throw you back on the seat but that’s pretty much it. Yeah the 18d vs 18i debate went on for a lot of time but 3L more for a mere usage of 1K/month kms and the added stress of diesel ban (this was the ultimate deciding factor I think) didn’t quite make sense to me! Was getting a good deal for the q3 SB (23 mfg , MY24) model but I honestly didn’t like the interiors one bit and my parents were extremely uncomfortable in the back seat of the SB. On the contrary they too loved the entire cabin space, comfort in the x1 and the airy feeling it gave. The normal q3 didn’t appeal to me so that was never into consideration. The GLA looked like a hatch. What am I going to do of the extra power in a city like Mumbai majority of the use cases don’t permit me to use that power. Finally went ahead with the 18i Waiting for delivery now which hopefully will be next month. So the heart won at the end of the day!

[Pyrotek]

Originally Posted by girish.purswani

Despite apprehensions and the numerous posts I read about the x1 , I’ve made the plunge. I test drove both 18d and 18i on the entire Worli sea face stretch and even the sea link , I don’t think I need more power than the cars provided considering my car is primarily going to be city driven. went ahead with the 18i Waiting for delivery now which hopefully will be next month. So the heart won at the end of the day!

Congratulations! The other day I drove the A200 and C200 back to back for about 50 km each. I couldn't really determine the difference between the 163 BHP on the A200 and the 200 BHP on the C200. I think for sedate drivers the power output is just a number. However, my 150 BHP Tucson does feel lacking for grunt when trying to pull quick overtakes on 2 lane highways.

I think the main outliers worth testing for power are quick overtakes on 2 lane highways and loaded up on a hill climb. If the car delivers adequately on both, that's enough for sedate drivers.

Hope you enjoy many thousands of kilometres of joy with your new drive. Looking forward to your ownership review as it would probably be the only one on the new X1 petrol.

[girish.purswani]

Originally Posted by Pyrotek

Congratulations! The other day I drove the A200 and C200 back to back for about 50 km each. I couldn't really determine the difference between the 163 BHP on the A200 and the 200 BHP on the C200. I think for sedate drivers the power output is just a number. However, my 150 BHP Tucson does feel lacking for grunt when trying to pull quick overtakes on 2 lane highways.

I think the main outliers worth testing for power are quick overtakes on 2 lane highways and loaded up on a hill climb. If the car delivers adequately on both, that's enough for sedate drivers.

Hope you enjoy many thousands of kilometres of joy with your new drive. Looking forward to your ownership review as it would probably be the only one on the new X1 petrol.

Thank You! To be absolutely candid purely without spec details - between the q3 SB and 18d , I felt 18d to be the more peppier and powerful pickup (obs due to the torque). However Q3 SB somehow felt boring and the 18d felt like a more youth-y car to drive. But yes I’d be lying if I say there wasn’t any difference between the q3 sb and 18i in terms of feeling the power. Just that it didn’t cut my equation to bother me that much. Also for reference, I currently drive the XUV300 and have the 500 also at home which my dad drives. Both of us felt this somehow still felt more powerful and agile in comparison to the xuvs (despite what the numbers say), so it’s definitely the tuning.
Yeah I’m looking forward too for this ownership , hoping it’s not that bad a decision hehe!

On another note - the iX1 is a beast , although the price tag also is a beast lol.