[Geo]

Just checking whether anybody has found a way to permanently turn OFF the "Collision Detection Breaking System"?

[amandal1810]

Originally Posted by aaren

I will be taking delivery of Elevate ZX Auto sometime in the week beginning 20th Jan

Congratulations! What color is it?

Originally Posted by aaren

Dual DashCam that has Landmark branded: Front Camera is either 2k or 4k and the rear is full HD - costing Rs. 12k.

I would strongly recommend 70mai brand for dashcams. I am using A500S and its great. They have a newer model (A510) which my friend bought, and its great as well. You can get it from Amazon and get it fitted from any accessories shop.

Originally Posted by aaren

The dealer has been pestering me to take the Basic Kit Accessories. Many of the items are superfluous for me. Hence will be getting mud guards, the mat for the boot and the floor mats - that have been recommended highly here, such as GFX.

This was the case for me as well. I agreed to it. This included floor mats, mud guards and few other things - but did not include boot mats. I bought GFX boot mat and its of good quality. Highly recommended.

Originally Posted by aaren

TPMS - haven't yet decided which one to get.

Unfortunately, there's only "Chinese" TPMS-es available in India, at least on Amazon. I do not like TPMS-es which connect to my phone and ask for unnecessary permissions and drain the phone's battery. So I'd recommend go for a TPMS with a HUD display. I am using Skyshop C240 and its been working fine for one year now.

Originally Posted by aaren

Will check on Ventilated seat accessory - I think buying it from outside is a better option. Dealer is quoting Rs. 6000/- per seat.

I am quite happy with the Riggear ventilated seat. We are planning to buy a second one for the co-driver seat. The button is a bit finicky, but the product is undeniably useful. Strongly recommended, after one year of use. Look at their website for good deals.

Originally Posted by aaren

If there is something that is very important for the vehicle, please do add.

Take the PDI checklist PDF from TBHP and take a friend with you for PDI. You can also opt for a third party PDI, but its available only in a few cities.

Originally Posted by Geo

Just checking whether anybody has found a way to permanently turn OFF the "Collision Detection Breaking System"?

Unfortunately, no.

[Circuit10]

Hi
Is there a neck rest available for passengers travelling on the back middle seat? I have a long journey planned with 3 passengers in the back and I am just worried that the middle seat passenger might feel uncomfortable travelling without neck support?

[Circuit10]

Originally Posted by Geo

Just checking whether anybody has found a way to permanently turn OFF the "Collision Detection Breaking System"?

Yes go to safety settings and there you can turn off this feature.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Circuit10

Yes go to safety settings and there you can turn off this feature.

But when you turn off the engine and start it again, this setting will be used again.

[Circuit10]

Originally Posted by Geo

But when you turn off the engine and start it again, this setting will be used again.

Yes, I tried doing that and it does turn on after restarting the engine. road departure mitigation system settings however remain unchanged, that can be turned off permanently.

[akhilshenay]

Originally Posted by hondadriver

The stock speakers in the Elevate are of very poor quality. I would recommend that you change them first. Get the audio guy to give you a demo with either Infiniti Reference (I have them in my elevate) OR Infinity Primus (if budget is an issue) OR some higher end ones, and let your ears decide. You may not even need a sub-woofer.

While the stock speaker comes at 20W did you add any amplifier to handle the bigger Infinity reference speaker? Also which variant Elevate do you have?

[amandal1810]

Drove from Bengaluru to Pune on 22nd Jan and then back on 25th Jan. It was a total of about 1700 kms. Read about the route specific information and other details here: (Bangalore - Pune - Mumbai : Route updates & Eateries).

Sharing some more learnings and experiences about the Elevate (ZX CVT) that we noticed during this trip:

• The issues with Android Auto still remain, but its slightly tolerable now. The infotainment system is on firmware version .601 (last 3 digits). With this latest software update, wireless Android Auto automatically re-connects after a few seconds of getting disconnected. However, I encountered two instances where the system would repeatedly disconnect and re-connect, and then give up after multiple tries. Then I had to manually re-select Android Auto checkbox from Devices List under settings. I've learnt (from posts here on TBHP) that this disconnection bug is because of how Android Auto uses wireless frequencies which is prone to interference. Interestingly, I've noticed that the audio starts stuttering just before AA gets disconnected.
• Did a lot of night driving this time. I have decided that I am unsatisfied with the headlight performance. When there are no lights on the road (no street lights, no oncoming traffic), then I can see the road clearly and I have no complaints. However, as soon as there are lights from oncoming traffic, I am unable to see the road clearly. Is it the same experience for others? This is for high beam. Low beam is utterly useless in either case. Note that I do not wear glasses/lenses.
• Road noise is undeniable at high speeds. I kept fiddling with the music volume based on the road noise. Speed sensitive volume adjustment setting is enabled, but it does not seem to help much, and I end up manually changing the volume most of the times.
• I don't like how the trip meter info gets displayed. "Average Speed & Time" and "Range & Fuel Efficiency" for the same trip instance gets displayed in separate sections. Ideally, I should have been able to look at both these info simply by scrolling the wheel - given that it's for the same trip instance. Anyways, its a minor nitpick.
• Wife hit an unmarked speed breaker on NH50 at 80 kmph. I was almost sure that something must have broken. But to our pleasant surprise, everything was all good. However, my wife was traumatized by the experience.
• During the return journey, I used LKAS (lane keep assist) extensively at night. This was on NH48 between Belgavi and Tumkur. Traffic was pleasantly thin during this time. LKAS worked as good as it works during the day.
• I am still impressed by the ride quality and handling of the car every time I drive. High speed overtaking maneuvers feel confident. Low speed pothole maneuvers feel robust. I love the roar of the iVTEC engine - I sometimes revv it hard on purpose just to enjoy the sound.

Trip meter snapshot for Bengaluru to Pune drive:



Trip meter snapshots for Pune to Bengaluru drive:



Sharing some car photos from the trip:


Breakfast stop at A2B Sira (onward journey)


Lunch stop at a random bus stop on NH50 to eat packed food (onward journey)


Lunch stop at Viraj Junction on NH48, near MH-KA state border (return journey)

Odometer reading stands at 10500 kms.

[saket77]

Originally Posted by amandal1810

[*]Did a lot of night driving this time. I have decided that I am unsatisfied with the headlight performance. When there are no lights on the road (no street lights, no oncoming traffic), then I can see the road clearly and I have no complaints. However, as soon as there are lights from oncoming traffic, I am unable to see the road clearly. Is it the same experience for others? This is for high beam. Low beam is utterly useless in either case. Note that I do not wear glasses/lenses.

I had the same problem with my City. I was seriously contemplating changing the fog lamps to LED projectors but losing the warranty, aftermarket Chinese fitments etc held me back. Ultimately I found a fair solution without spending a rupee and without changing anything in the car.

I also found that the throw of the lamp was not reaching that far- so I decided to relevel the headlamps. I did it myself against a wall. No formal process followed. I just increased the height of the beam on both headlamps (adjuster screw is behind the headlamp assembly- One is for height, other one is for sideways movement) . Now even the low beam has a far longer throw and same for high beam. Previously even with the hi-beams on, the light would not reach far and I was not confident driving the car at night on the highways at speeds greater than 60KMPH. However, post this setting, it is much much better. Of course, the issues with white light will remain- especially scattering and poor fog behavior; but just try this before going for any after market fitment. This will make it much more livable in my experience.


Regarding the road noise, I will enquire Honda that if any OE fender liner can be installed in this model. If that happens, I will happily pay for a quieter ride.

Regards.

[hondadriver]

Originally Posted by akhilshenay

While the stock speaker comes at 20W did you add any amplifier to handle the bigger Infinity reference speaker? Also which variant Elevate do you have?

I have an Elevate V-MT.

I could not find the specs of the stock speakers but on physical inspection, they just seem to be made of extremely cheap materials. The cone was made of something that looked like flaky cardboard. And the magnet was a small ring which was hollowed out. So not much in terms of materials there. And it didn't look like a neodymium alloy

The reason to go to Infinity reference is that they are the highest sensitivity speakers in that price class (92dB). That means they will output double the sound pressure of an Infinity Primus (89dB) speaker for the same level of current from the Head Unit. Also they are 4 ohm speakers that allow the head unit to drive more current into it. With these 2 "optimizations", I felt that the ~25W/channel that the Honda head units pump out will be sufficient for the upgrade. And it works well.

Most medium/high end aftermarket speakers are 8 ohms and typically with lower sensitivity. They need at least 50W/channel amps to make them come alive. Infinity reference is an exception. You can read the message boards and articles on crutchfield.com. That is where I got the idea from.

I had done the same in my 2021 Honda City SV-MT and they work well there as well.

[akhilshenay]

Originally Posted by hondadriver

I have an Elevate V-MT.

I could not find the specs of the stock speakers but on physical inspection, they just seem to be made of extremely cheap materials. The cone was made of something that looked like flaky cardboard. And the magnet was a small ring which was hollowed out. So not much in terms of materials there. And it didn't look like a neodymium alloy

The reason to go to Infinity reference is that they are the highest sensitivity speakers in that price class (92dB). That means they will output double the sound pressure of an Infinity Primus (89dB) speaker for the same level of current from the Head Unit. Also they are 4 ohm speakers that allow the head unit to drive more current into it. With these 2 "optimizations", I felt that the ~25W/channel that the Honda head units pump out will be sufficient for the upgrade. And it works well.

Most medium/high end aftermarket speakers are 8 ohms and typically with lower sensitivity. They need at least 50W/channel amps to make them come alive. Infinity reference is an exception. You can read the message boards and articles on crutchfield.com. That is where I got the idea from.

I had done the same in my 2021 Honda City SV-MT and they work well there as well.

Thank you for the detailed response. The information provided is quite useful. I agree with your observation about the stock speaker quality, it does feel flimsy and looks rather cheap. However, I suppose this is the case with most stock speakers in any car brands, unless it’s a special edition/ variant equipped with a branded audio system. Here’s a picture I took when the speaker was removed during door damping.






After damping, the sound quality has improved. I’ve also customized the equalizer settings, and the audio response is now quite impressive. It’s surprising how such good sound can come from these cheap looking speakers.

My car is the ZX variant, which comes with 4 speakers and 4 tweeters. When I upgrade, will it be a direct plug and play replacement, or will I need to install new speaker wiring to connect the crossover for the new component speakers?

[hondadriver]

Originally Posted by akhilshenay

My car is the ZX variant, which comes with 4 speakers and 4 tweeters. When I upgrade, will it be a direct plug and play replacement, or will I need to install new speaker wiring to connect the crossover for the new component speakers?

No wiring needs to be cut or spliced. The crossover's connects to the speakers is part of the speaker assembly.

Just ensure that they don't drill new holes for screws on the body and use a plastic coupler to install the speakers/tweeters into the body using the same screw holes as original speakers.

[ashokabs]

Originally Posted by Geo

But when you turn off the engine and start it again, this setting will be used again.

CMBS is supposed to be a safety feature like airbags which you cannot switch off. Hence, it is kept as an automatic turn on each time the engine is started.

[Trippr]

Hello Elevate-ers

Please share:
1. If you're facing too much of dust inside the cabin/under the bonnet due to insufficient beading.
2. If anyone has driven in pouring rain and experienced water ingress inside in anyway.

Considering an Elevate, but quality issues, NVH complaints seem to be too much for comfort.

Thanks

[Circuit10]

Originally Posted by Trippr

Hello Elevate-ers

Please share:
1. If you're facing too much of dust inside the cabin/under the bonnet due to insufficient beading.
2. If anyone has driven in pouring rain and experienced water ingress inside in anyway.

Thanks

Quality is not an issue at all. Been driving zx cvt model since 21st July 2024. Have clocked 9500kms, daily driving is almost 90-100kms. I took delivery on 21st July when it was raining in Mumbai like there is no tomorrow. I was a nervous wreck to experience water logging right outside the showroom, but to my surprise and relief all throughout the elevate managed water logging without a single drop coming in the cabin, thanks to its ground clearance and superior quality of door rubber.

Same applies to dust, which again I am used to because I drive everyday on the highway going to my factory. I do put a car cover everyday outside my factory primarily due to the high dust and heat, but I’ve never faced an issue of cabin getting dusty or with dusty air flowing inside when ac is switched on.

Nvh level has not been an issue as I am always listening to music or talking to people in car or phone! Even otherwise I don’t find it to be bothersome. So far loved my ride and the best choice I’ve made from the clutter of cars in the market.