[ashokabs]

Variable reviews based on reviewers personal biases are the main reason you should always take a long test drive and make sure of the points that are important to you.

[capnemo]

Originally Posted by adeshgunjan

Just saw a highway drive review from Gaadiwaadi where the reviewer mentioned too much tyre noise in creta at high speeds. Surprisingly same guy reviewed the Elevate and mentioned great NVH in the rear seat. So confusing!

I don't know what the reviewer was smoking there, but that's one risky way of reducing NVH levels

I took the Creta on a long drive recently and didn't gun the engine above 80 much due to the run-in period. The cabin felt quite insulated. There is a bit of road noise creeping in at high speeds, but it isn't much.

Coming back to the Elevate, honestly, I would have liked to own a Honda. I liked the way the Elevate looks. I had gone ahead and made the advance payment for it when it was not even launched !
But 2 test drives left me disappointed, due to various reasons that I mentioned in the comparison between the Creta and Elevate.

Even when I was exploring the used car market, I loved the last gen Honda CR-V that was launched in India. Just terrific even with that smooth petrol engine/CVT gearbox with a multi-link suspension, sense of space, comfort. Even NVH levels seemed to be superb, going by the reviews. If I am not wrong, it even got Michelin Primacy tyres on launch.

The Elevate seemed like such a watered down Honda. Not that it doesn't have any strengths (for example, I liked the poise with which it rode on Bangalore's bad roads), but one just hopes Honda correct a lot of the misses in the future.

[utkarshgoel]

Off topic but I too love CRv specially diesel with 7 seats but have not been able to take the plunge in second hand car market. Dear of hassle is too much.

[adeshgunjan]

Originally Posted by capnemo

I don't know what the reviewer was smoking there, but that's one risky way of reducing NVH levels

I took the Creta on a long drive recently and didn't gun the engine above 80 much due to the run-in period. The cabin felt quite insulated. There is a bit of road noise creeping in at high speeds, but it isn't much.

Coming back to the Elevate, honestly, I would have liked to own a Honda. I liked the way the Elevate looks. I had gone ahead and made the advance payment for it when it was not even launched !

I too test drove the Creta IVT although for a short distance. I was mighty impressed with the way it drove. I found the gearbox more responsive than Elevate and NVH levels well controlled. Even the paddles were quick to respond. But yes, I found the backseat legroom tight. Elevate has loads. The boot smaller as well. I plan to do many long trips, so luggage space and just that added legroom will be very useful when travelling in a restrictive tin box But that also means longer time above 80 kmph, where Elevate will play death metal in your ears (just kidding). I will be driving the DCT soon to broaden my perspective. Hopefully will make a decision soon.

BTW, a fellow BHPian explaines in his post (link below ), his observation as to why the NVH is poor in Elevate. Apparently Honda has skimped on the rubber beading on the doors which is very sad for car of this segment.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offic...ml#post5689691 (Honda Elevate Review)

[TorqueIndia]

I was looking for 2024 ELEVATE reinforced lower variants in YouTube.
Surprised that there is not even a single video of base variants SV/V MT/CVT with newer updates- 6 airbags, new instrument cluster etc.

Honda is shipping only ZX now ? Any production constraints reported?
Also noted their exports are substantial as WRV was an instant hit in Japan.

[balajimurugaiya]

Originally Posted by TorqueIndia

I was looking for 2024 ELEVATE reinforced lower variants in YouTube.
Surprised that there is not even a single video of base variants SV/V MT/CVT with newer updates- 6 airbags, new instrument cluster etc.

Honda is shipping only ZX now ? Any production constraints reported?
Also noted their exports are substantial as WRV was an instant hit in Japan.

Looks like it. I think foreign variants only get 2 variants the base paired with MT and ZX with the CVT. According to my dealer they are giving preference to the exports which are primarily ZX CVT.

[Circuit10]

Originally Posted by capnemo

I don't know what the reviewer was smoking there, but that's one risky way of reducing NVH levels

I took the Creta on a long drive recently and didn't gun the engine above 80 much due to the run-in period. The cabin felt quite insulated. There is a bit of road noise creeping in at high speeds, but it isn't much.

Coming back to the Elevate, honestly, I would have liked to own a Honda. I liked the way the Elevate looks. I had gone ahead and made the advance payment for it when it was not even launched !
But 2 test drives left me disappointed, due to various reasons that I mentioned in the comparison between the Creta and Elevate.

I think Honda has made the Elevate with a no nonsense approach. Make the engine and structure of the car reliable and solid for a long time keeping the cost of ownership in mind. Hardly few bells and whistles thinking they are targeting that part of the market which doesn’t really need any. Probably they did not want it to be a mass selling car. I recently stumbled upon a video which highlights the unwanted features which one should not really pay for (again very personal). It’s an interesting take and it’s good to see the market offering different products now than earlier when you had no choice! Here is the link -

https://youtu.be/Bp-vCpUtSPQ?si=e19Dsn0H5L1i_zOw

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[SithDefender]

Originally Posted by capnemo

Even when I was exploring the used car market, I loved the last gen Honda CR-V that was launched in India. Just terrific even with that smooth petrol engine/CVT gearbox with a multi-link suspension, sense of space, comfort. Even NVH levels seemed to be superb, going by the reviews. If I am not wrong, it even got Michelin Primacy tyres on launch.

Originally Posted by utkarshgoel

Off topic but I too love CRv specially diesel with 7 seats but have not been able to take the plunge in second hand car market.

+1 to the Honda CR-V. Just wish they relaunched it with a proper hybrid / PHEV. Such a fantastic car !

[sirius]

Originally Posted by Circuit10

I recently stumbled upon a video which highlights the unwanted features which one should not really pay for (again very personal).

https://Youtu.be/Bp-vCpUtSPQ?si=e19Dsn0H5L1i_zOw

I disagree with his view that paddle shifters are a useless feature. It is useful for overtaking on highways and also for engine breaking during downhill driving for CVT.

[Prash1407]

Originally Posted by sirius

I disagree with his view that paddle shifters are a useless feature. It is useful for overtaking on highways and also for engine breaking during downhill driving for CVT.

Thanks, The document provided a lot of information. But, I still have a query related to Engine Breaking.
When in D or S mode, in addition to the driver changing the gear, the vehicle also changes it according to the settings. If that is the case, when I want to use Engine breaking, I will need to shift down the gear. But, as mentioned, if the speed is at the upper threshold, the vehicle will shift up automatically. Then, what is the best way to use Engine breaking when in D?
The same case with S. The vehicle also operates the gear. If I am coming downhill and I want to reduce my speed, I will shift down. But the vehicle may shift it back up.
Can someone please clarify this?

[varunswnt]

Autocar - Hyundai Creta IVT vs Honda Elevate CVT Comparison

[sirius]

Originally Posted by Prash1407

If I am coming downhill and I want to reduce my speed, I will shift down. But the vehicle may shift it back up.
Can someone please clarify this?

I first slow down the vehicle through breaks and then lower the gears in my manual car to maintain the lower speed. and follow the same in my CVT car too.
Using only engine breaking without actual brakes to reduce the speed created violent noise from the engines and I won't risk doing it.

[TorqueIndia]

Originally Posted by Prash1407

The same case with S. The vehicle also operates the gear. If I am coming downhill and I want to reduce my speed, I will shift down. But the vehicle may shift it back up.
Can someone please clarify this?

The S mode is specifically for these usages , downhill and uphill.
Normally Honda CVTs used to have one more L mode, which is absent in ELEVATE. Looks like paddles are compensating L mode now.

The paddles behave differently with D & S mode.
What I had noticed during the testdrive is that paddles are activated temporarily and seamless in D mode, while in S mode paddle shifts are given more priority with longer duration in controls, addition to the low ratios in S mode.

One another thing to note is that S is not sport mode as many reviewers claims.
Also there is no ECO mode in ELEVATE as seen in other HONDAs.

Another little things I noticed with Honda CVT are :
For economy : Drive below 2K rpm religiously at any speeds.
For performance drive between 2-3.5K rpm, part throttle gives better ratios from CVT than flooring pedal.

[Aniruddha C.H.]

Originally Posted by ac 427

I got around 60k discount, and I pushed for my own Insurance. OTR the car is around 17.30 for me.

I am also in the market to replace my Brio. May I ask which variant you purchsed?

[Varun.Lolla]

Originally Posted by motographer

Conundrum: Should I go for Elevate ZX or push the budget and go for Creta SX Tech(if it's really worth it). Although, pushing the budget would be better avoided.

I'd highly recommend you to go for the Elevate. I'm a Hyundai owner myself, that taught me, gimmicks and features only satisfy you for a few months, but, it's the mechanicals of the car that you'll appreciate over time. It's true that Elevate has the better suspension of the two, and you'll thank yourself for that in the long run. Besides, you're saving out on plenty, by going for the Elevate. So, sound damping and ceramic coating are a few services that can be done with the money. Hope this helps. Cheers!!